07 February 2012
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Mitsubishi has a strong reputation for 4x4s but the ASX takes it into the new territory of crossovers. This brings the ASX into contention with the likes of the Nissan Qashqai and Ford Kuga, so the Mitsubishi has a lot to contend with. It’s undoubtedly a decent looking car, with some of the family l [...]
Cleartec - The Colt Cleartec adds £500 to the price of a standard 1.3-litre model, so you’d need to travel a long way to make up this extra expense even when the Cleartec provides 56.5mpg combined economy to the standard car’s 48.7mpg. [...]
MiEV - The Mitsubishi i MiEV is the newest electric vehicle available in the UK and unlike some of its rivals- it is a proper car rather than a quadricycle. The name means Mitsubishi innovative Electric Vehicle and according to the Japanese giant, it is hoped to do well in the business market and the priva [...]
GSR FQ300 SST - Japanese maker, Mitsubishi has given us the new Lancer Evolution, now in its tenth generation. The rally-bred road car has been redesigned when comparing it to the ninth variation. Enthusiasts are wary as they claim that this car may not be as hardcore as previous Evos. However the proof is in the t [...]
Ralliart - Mitsubishi's Evolution X, a supercar for those without jobs in hedge funds, is quick, powerful and has huge levels of grip. But prices still start at £27K, rising to £38K if you want a fully specced FQ360. The Lancer on which the Evo is based is a lot cheaper – £10,499 to £18,499 – but it's nowhere [...]
1.5 CZC1 - The Mitsubishi Colt CZC is an extremely appealing car and the turbo offers driving pleasure and excitement. Competitively priced with a very large boot when the roof is up. [...]
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This is the third Shogun I have had and wished I had always stayed with them, having tried Land Rover twice with a Freelander and then a 2005 Discovery; a total disaster with both as they spent more time in the garage then on the road. This latest Shogun is amazing and I find it difficult to understand some of the bad press reviews that are always stating how brilliant the Discovery is in comparison. If you want to stay driving at nearly half the new cost of an unreliable Discovery pick the Showgun every time.
Submitted: 28/01/2012 21:38:17
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I’ve only had mine a coupe of weeks, which I bought with 38,000 on the clock. It’s a great little car, but like other owners the auto mode leaves a lot to be desired, as it snatches too much. Manual is great, except when trying to select reverse; it doeas not want to select the geat immediately, this could be my fault though? Overall a great car, well built and roomy.
Submitted: 28/01/2012 21:14:07
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I’m laughing at the comments from others re poor handling and slow performance. I’ve driven everything from skylines to scoobys to v8’s to turbo hayabusas/nitrous gixxers etc., a fair spectrum of vehicles basically. The Shogun Sport is just plain fantastic! It’s very, very easy to get another 30-40 bhp if required (for those wanting more grunt) and it is also very easy to adjust the wastegate on the turbo for less wastegate creep (keeps the power for further up the revs;) Handling? It’s ok, so it’s no sports car, but it’s no lorry either. Remember people, this is a 2 ton 4x4 tank, built to last and withstand proper work/offroading etc, and when you bare this in mind, it’s actually very accomplished and the mpg isnt too shabby either. Out of all the 4x4s this one wins hands down in terms of reliability versus price! Less whining, more enjoying! :)
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I have an immense amount of respect for this vehicle,it isn’t fair to label it as ’poor handling’. For heaven’s sake, it’s a high-riding 4x4 with long-travel suspension, how is it MEANT to handle like a car with all this off-road biased hardware to tote about?! People talk rubbish. It steers very nicely, the gearbox, though heavy-duty, and with a rather long gear-lever changes with lightning precision if you know what you’re doing. The brakes are quite good and I don’t think the fuel consumption is THAT bad. I suggest the people who think that it is should try a 4.6 litre Range Rover THEN come back and say the same thing! Been out in the deep Yorkshire snow this morning and she is as impressive as ever. If you want sports car-like handling and low fuel consumption, get a BMW 320d. I forgot to add though that these are totally undriveable in deep snow, no traction whatsoever, but each to their own... - Phillip Taylor from Yorkshire
Submitted: 27/01/2012 10:47:57
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I bought this car with only 12000 miles on the clock. I took it for its first main service and I was told it needed a new clutch £700+ to repair. I refused to have it fixed. The garage had it for 2 weeks and couldn’t find why it was down on power. A couple of months later and 38000 miles on the clock the cylinder head cracked. I had the head replaced and it was then back to full power. Mitsubushi are not interested!! At 72000 miles the car suffers from oil pressure issues, I spoke to the General manager of Mitsubushi UK (I have his e mail address if anyone would like to tell him what they think of their cars), but he was not interested as it was out of warantee, and had no explaination as to why loads of these cars fail at 70000+ miles. He also can’t explain why my clutch is still going strong after 72000 miles when they said it needed chainging. This is my second and LAST Mitsubushi, I wouldn’t ever buy another one. I can put up with the odd problem, but major issues should be covered by the manufactures, they know they have engine problems and all Mitsubushi do is bury their heads in the sand! Buyer beware you will need deep pockets to keep a Mitsubushi on the road!!
Submitted: 24/01/2012 10:15:10
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What a load of rubbish! I had a Pajero before and thought it might be as good. The cylinder head blew at 38000, just 6 months out of warranty. Mr Mitsubushi said go away! Now at 72000 the engine is knocking. For goodness sake Mitsubushi own up to your mistakes and help the customers stuck with your lemons!! Just take a look on ebay at how many 03/53 plate L200s have blown engines! My advice? Never ever buy a Mitsubushi!
Submitted: 04/01/2012 12:49:06
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I loved this car until the leaks started, first on my head whilst driving, secondly on to my back seats, which are soaked. My boot is also very wet constantly, making my back window hard to see through.
Submitted: 13/12/2011 09:32:51
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We’d never heard of these before, but was given one as a rental in Portugal a couple of years ago. We were so impressed we went out and immediately bought a second hand CZ2 Auto, paying only £6k for an 18month old model with 6k on the clock, what a bargain! The car is perfect for us as the wife can only drive autos and I prefer manual. My wife is a little hard of hearing so the slightly higher revs with the auto box don’t bother her at all. I really enjoy the clutchless manual mode and you don’t need to pay extra for options as the CZ2 model has everything inc. cruise control, fog lights, aircon etc. The boot is not large, but big enough for our needs. For long trips an extra suitcase can go on back seat. The interior space makes it feel like a much bigger car and it is easy to get in and out of. It provides great performance and handling with a 95bhp engine and delivers 45mpg on average, 50+ on a run and road tax is only £95 p.a. It’s reliability is exceptional according to Warranty Direct and we have had no problems in 10k miles. We have just traded it in for a brand new model as we have been so impressed with the car. We used to buy Toyotas, but can no longer afford them. This matches up extremely well for driveability and build quality and is (according to reports) more reliable than a Yaris. A hidden gem thanks to badge snobbery - keep it quiet!
Submitted: 07/12/2011 09:54:38
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Better than hybrid. Love it.
Submitted: 28/11/2011 09:19:54
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I bought my truck 5 years ago. After 4 months of ownership the engine blew on 43000 miles. The dealer replaced the lot in Weston Supermare and since then there have been no problems and it has gone through MoTs without a problem. I also changed the cambelt 10000 miles ago, which the dealer quoted £750 for so I went to a local specialist who charged £300. I’m just hitting 115000 miles and I think it is possibly the best I’ve ever had. I’m only selling it soon cause I want a newer model. The L200 is like any car, you get a good one and it’s great, the next one off the production line could be a dog. All I can say is it’s got Japanese reliability, which is good enough for me.
Submitted: 21/11/2011 09:52:48
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This is the second L200 I have owned from new and this one is now four years old. All the red paint is fading. I will never give Mitsubishi any more money as they think that it’s acceptable for a £22,000 vehicle’s paint to fade within four years. I don’t think much of the company or their cheap paint!
Submitted: 19/11/2011 13:43:17
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Hi, this is the second Shogun I’ve owned as I previously had a 2004 SWB and never had a problem. Then I bought a 2008 LWB plate and sold it in 2011 as it was the worst car I had every owned. In 6 months it spent 12 weeks in the garage with a rusting door and engine managment problems. Then the particulate filter went at 43,000 miles and from then on it just drank fuel like it was going out of fashion, plus a £2000 bill to repair it. So I decided to sell it. When I contacted Mitsubishi they knew they had a problem with the rusting round the windows, but then I noticed even on the bottom of the doors it had rust inside. The garge actually said it needed all new 4 doors, but Mitshubishi wouldn’t cover this on warranty and only allowed them to paint it. I was so disappointed as it was good in the snow and fab to load the children and dogs into. My first Shogun was fab, what happened Mitsubishi to the new ones?
Submitted: 17/10/2011 11:40:52
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In 2009, I purchased a new shape L200, 2006 4Life model, having covered 98k in three years(all motorway mileage). FSH up to 80k. My first service bill was £800, this was with two new rear leaf springs! Which I failed to notice one had broken. This is a common fault apparently. The truck to date has been fantastic, pulling a two ton trailer @ 8.5 metres long was all in a day’s work for L200! Pulled like a train and still does. Still on original clutch too. What a towing machine! Well capable. Two years on, it’s still going strong with no major problems! So you can keep your overpriced and under powered Hiluxs (thanks to Top Gear!). I will stay with what I consider to be a damn good workhorse.
Submitted: 04/10/2011 09:11:58
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So far I find the Colt a very versitile medium/small vehicle. Economy is around 40 mpg, and it provides a comfortable ride and is spacious. It is maybe a little lacking in power on long inclines, but otherwise it has no problem motoring around at 70mph.
Submitted: 30/09/2011 09:34:20
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I bought the L200 new in March ’88 and I have used the vehicle every day to carry heavy loads in extreme conditions without any bother or breakdown. Except tyres, batteries and exhausts it’s needed nothing. It’s now coming up to 300,000 miles and I still use it every day for work. Sadly theDVLA have informed me it has to be off the road by 3 Jan 2012 because it cannot meet low emission zone requirements. Without question this is the best motor I have ever owned.
Submitted: 16/09/2011 10:10:47
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I recently bought a Mitsubishi Shogun Sport Warrior Automatic with 50k miles in the UK and exported it to Zimbabwe. The vehicles runs well but tends to show high temperatures when being driven at slow speeds. This problem does not occur when driving at high speed.
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Hi George, I also intend to import one of these from the UK. I would appreciate being able to converse directly with you regarding your experience. Please mail me on tafadzwamahachi@gmail.com. Thanks and regards - Tafadzwa Mahachi from Zimbabwe
Submitted: 18/08/2011 09:51:24
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I have had mine for 2 years now, bought it to tow our caravan and use as a workhorse. Yes it is slow, but it’s a proper 4x4 not a wanabe. We had no problems in the snow of winter 2010/2011, in fact we went out looking for some to see how it perform on snow and ice covered mountain roads and passed with flying colours. We are thinking of taking it down to the Alps for a skiing trip. For much of winter it’s covered in thick mud outside and is not much better inside, but it always cleans up very nicely. I have put the Rally Art power upgrade in it and boy what a difference it makes; the power is up by over 30 bhp, mpg up by 20% and loads of torque. We’re thinking of selling the caravan and putting wheels on the house because I think it would tow it now! The service costs are not too bad as the local garage’s mechanic I use did his time with Mitsubishi so knows his stuff.
Submitted: 14/08/2011 13:46:49
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In the winter of 2010 I became very tired of sliding about in my Mercedes 220 getting no where. On impulse I changed it for the Trojan. It was if there was no snow anymore and since then it has proved to be outstanding in all adverse conditions. I spent much of my younger life in Land Rovers on dirt roads overseas. This is at the top of its class. However, its off road excellence comes at a price and as a road vehicle it is slow and the suspension quite hard. You need to do your homework, but if you need a rugged dependable all terrain vehicle this could be the vehicle for you.
Submitted: 09/08/2011 14:52:43
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Only had this car a couple of weeks, but I am so pleased with it. I had initial concerns about mpg, but now I realise petrol is currently about £6 a litre, I consider that 30mpg ain’t too bad for a car of its size. Especially on the Isle of Wight, which is hilly and where you don’t get a good long run, ever! Seems much better screwed together than my Corsa, which was a year younger. If you see one, buy one is my advice.
Submitted: 03/08/2011 07:31:06
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Great family crossover ASX3 4 Wheel Drive, great fuel consumption. Just done 1,500 miles round trip average 68.5 miles a gallon. Great handling, plenty of room front and back, just wish boot was a bit bigger but would recommend to anyone.
Submitted: 28/07/2011 15:24:11
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A great work horse that has been well abused, even though the milage is not high. It is used for moving stock and has never let us down. Two feet of snow, minus 15 temeratures and High Peak hills could not stop her. We have had her since she was 18 months old and definitely have no intention of parting with her. OK she’s a little pricey on the fuel, but at 3.2L I suppose that’s what I should expect. Anyway she’s my baby so I’ll put up with it.
Submitted: 16/07/2011 19:11:50
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I had the chance to drive this car through work. It is obviously quite small and pricey at around £25k and limited in its range. I wouldn’t personally buy one at the moment, but it is a nice, clean ride. As an electric car it is silent to drive, quick and responsive and super-smooth. From that viewpoint I’m impressed. Just needs a longer driving range and a lower price. Some day maybe?
Submitted: 16/07/2011 18:17:05
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I got the ASX instead of the Qashqai, as it just undercut it on price. Nice to have something different too and thankfully it is no compromise either. I’ve only just had it delivered and I am really loving it already. The start-stop system is helping to save fuel, though it feels a bit strange at first!
Submitted: 16/07/2011 18:14:37
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This 2010 car was owned by the importer and chosen because of its low mileage , condition, value for money and perceived running costs (due to a high annual mileage -approx 21,000 of which over 12,000 are business). It was selected over a GS3 because of several factors: 1. It is on 16 inch wheels so tyre costs will be less 2. It is more economical and quicker on paper than the GS3 3. Road tax is £30 a year less than GS3. Despite specification lists that suggest this model doesn’t have front fog lights or 7 airbags our car has them and also is fitted with a front strut brace.It certainly is well specced with the benefit of cruise control. The bluetooth phone is far more user friendly than the factory fit system in our previos car (Ford C Max 1.6 tdci Titanium). Economy during initial ownership ( over 900 miles checked brim to brim ) has been a creditable 50.6mpg in mixed driving 4up and 53mpg on a 120 mile solo run. The ride is a little on the bouncy side. From cold the VW engine is slightly noisier than the last 4 Fords owned, but the rapid acceleration, effortless cruising and better economy make up for this (Cmax 48mpg). The car is nicely screwed together, the isofix fittings are easy to use with easy to reach top tether hooks on the seatbacks.The 6 speed gearbox is light and precise.The 3 year comprehensive warranty includes roadside assistance (unlike Ford’s penny pinching 1 year roadside and reduced warranty cover after the first year). Ignore the press and try one!
Submitted: 15/07/2011 10:14:01
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Replaced my ageing Disco very surprised with pulling power, plenty of room inside fuel cost hard to judge as derv prices have risen, solo in fifth gear still wants to pull, miss the size of the Landy but would recommend for caravaners.
Submitted: 29/05/2011 22:29:09
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Hi I bought a Shogun 3.2 Did elegance in 2008. In late september 2010 I had a catastrophic overheat. I eventually booked it in with an enginer remanfuacturer (whom I would highly recommend), only to find out that the problem was in fact the EGR cooler and dipstick. Apparantly the car had a recall on in July 2005, good news!! Previous owner had a head gasket fitted in 2007, but the car was NEVER booked in for the recall. My finance company are likely to have to pay after speaking to the the trading standards and financial services ombudsman. A very expensive problem at £4200, but found a very reputable garage to carry out the work! Fingers crossed all goes well. Check with Mitsubishi if there are any recalls outstanding..
Submitted: 21/05/2011 23:44:15
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I bought my Warrior diesel 2 years ago because I wanted a family tow car and in the winter months carry out field sports. With the correct off road tyres I have yet to find myself stuck whilst these so called off road Range Rovers slide around with no hope other than being pulled out by a 20 year old defender. Not the most economical car but it does what its supposed to do. A proper off roader not a pretender!
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You hit the nail right on the head when mentioning tyres,the standard issue Bridgestone Duellers are appalling off-road. I changed mine for some BF goodrich all-terrain tyres, the off-road traction is amazing. I have driven up sloping icy inclines that I couldn’t even walk up. The grip of this car is astonishing, it has never been found wanting. People who don’t know what they are talking about with reference to 4wd cars point out that it isn’t as good as some other 4wds because it hasn’t got a lockable differential?! Why would a part-time 4wd need one? It doesn’t have a differential that NEEDS locking! Whilst we are on the subject of traction, the sport does have a rear limited-slip differential, which in my book doesn’t just mean that it matches a Land Rover, which does have a lockable diff, it is actually BETTER because neither a Range Rover or Land Rover has one - Phillip Taylor from Yorkshire
Submitted: 21/05/2011 23:12:23
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Great car and very reliable I have had it for 3 years and now done 36000 miles. Still feels tight as a drum. Huge cabin space for class of car. 45 profile tyres on Special Edition so ride bumpy on bad surfaces. Don’t believe anyone who says 1.3 no more powerful than the 1.1; it is and goes like a 1.6. Only fault. I had to replace the gear linkage. Apparently a bad batch which mine unfortunately was one. Recommend. Better value for money than a Fiesta and more durable over time I am sure.
Submitted: 21/05/2011 22:48:26
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Perhaps the best 4x4xfar. I have owned previously an almost new Range Rover. everyday I faced a breakdown, electrical, mechanical, wipers, power windows, center lock, pumps, gearbox, engine...etc. I wasted lots of money and time on the Range. I bought the Mitsubishi for 30% of the Range price, same year. Now this is the 6th year with the Mitsubishi and only oil change and normal maintenance. I fully recommend the Mitsubishi.
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I fully agree with your assessment of Range Rover. The same happened with me - Abu Ismael from Lebanon
Submitted: 11/05/2011 14:22:56
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Bought a mint example in March 2011. 30000 miles full history. Irrespective of the background to the car I had the timing chain tensioner changed although garage reported that there was no fault and like wise the near side rear drive shaft (it is only the one that can suffer from the faulty circlip problem). No apparent issue but did as a precaution. The major failures reported on this forum tend to be related to these two potential problems and for a few hundred pounds, not a lot, prevention is better etc. I also took the advice to change auto transmission fluid and diff oils. I also checked with Mitsubishi direct to determine if all recalls had been done and got those up to date. Shoguns are off roaders and if used as such need proper care and preventative maintenance. They are not family hatchbacks that potter to the shops. So hopefully with proper care and servicing I can look forward to many miles with no major mechanical failures.
Submitted: 08/05/2011 18:54:09
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Very good but so much gas!
Submitted: 28/04/2011 09:02:05
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I bought a new Mitsubishi L200 BARBARIAN in Decemeber 2010 and in March 2011, about 4 months after the clutch burned I took it to Mitsubishi and they said to me that is not covered by the Mitsubishi warranty and I have to pay myself for all cost, a new clutch and labour about £1250.
Submitted: 13/04/2011 17:02:48
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Cheap to run and very reliable great for space
Submitted: 04/04/2011 10:37:30
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Bought truck from a garage with an all singing and dancing warranty. After 6 months and 5k miles it started to overheat. Took to local dealership and they explained that the head gasket on the early ones of the new shape had a thin gasket same as the older model which was prone to the problem. Claimed on warranty and £2,200 later it was fixed; garage insisted on a 3500 radiator to upgrade the cooling system but warranty firm refused to pay. Anyhow onto the vehicle. It is a joy to drive, I have Grabber AT2 tyres which rumble on the road and are annoying on long trips but are brilliant in the snow. Gearbox is easy, lots of comfort ie 5 hours with no stops and felt ok. Fuel is good, costs around £70 to fill at £1.40 per ltr, this takes me about 400 miles. It can be noisy with the window down so bought wind deflectors, which help. The version I bought was a Club cab so it has 2 doors but a section for interior luggage inside and 2 drop down seats, so if you’re like me and use vehicle with one or two people it’s ideal. Huge boot for all those garden center trips. Out of all the vehicles I have had over 20 years inc new ones, this is the one I LOVE the best, there is even a forum for L200 owners. I can’t wait to drive to Italy in it.
Submitted: 30/03/2011 14:45:43
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Fantastic Car to drive. Automatic mode is sometimes difficult, often feels like it is going to stall when you take your foot off the brake to pull away. I do also like to drive the car manually as it seems far more responsive, and the gearing seems more approriate than the automatic mode.
Submitted: 28/03/2011 10:36:33
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Mine tows all the time goes off road at least once a week for shooting. It has 130,000 on the clock and so far all I have done is replace the springs and service every 6k. I must say its a damn good truck!!
Submitted: 27/03/2011 17:03:47
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Shogun the best 4x4 by far. A few tips. Make sure only genuine Mitsubishi filters are used. Change auto gearbox fluid every 30,000 as there is no filter. Change top timing chain guide every 30,000 do the tapets at the same time, make sure to only turn crank clockwise. Change coolant every 3 years. Use 4wd to keep it working. Try not to drive in 4 WD on dry roads unless towing otherwise transmission can wind /heat up. Don’t thrash it when it’s cold. Needs all terrain tyres to go well off road. Keep plenty of grease on 4wd actuator on front axle. Try to have the same depth of tread on all 4 tyres.
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Hi there, I have to tell you that after I’ve read all these reviews I got worried about my recent decision to buy the 3.2 did, SWB 2002 reg. It has 80k miles with full service. I don’t know what to do, I couldn’t afford to stay with it in the garage and to pay all those huge bills for faults as injector pump. Isn’t that considered a fabrication fault? Not to mention the cam chain. Do you have this model? You seem to know it quite well - Daniel Enachi from Hertfordshire
Submitted: 26/03/2011 22:35:33
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Had expensive throttle body replaced but otherwise handy all round mini mpv.
Submitted: 11/03/2011 15:11:18
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My wife has owned this car for about a year now and loves it. The only downside is for people in the northern states because the tires were never meant to be driven in snow. We replaced tire and rim with a good snow tire. Voila, job done.
Submitted: 23/02/2011 10:45:35
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Now had my Colt 1.3 CZ2 Semi Automatic for six months and still finding it hard to drive! The car itself, minus the transmission is brilliant, a lovely little car, real value for money. In semi auto mode the car isn’t too bad and I am able to have a fair degree of control over it. However in full auto mode its a nightmare! High revs, a high gear change plus erratic gear change down when reducing speed, makes it almost dangerous to drive in full auto mode. Garage admits that it is a high rev car but told me to feather the accelerator pedal when in full auto mode just before the car changes gear. When in full auto mode I want the car to drive me not the other way round. Will probably try to sell this in the next year, I won’t be buying another auto. I’m sure a manual is a joy.
Submitted: 18/02/2011 22:13:39
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A little gem, fantastic economy; over 50mpg during my comute to work. Easy to drive. Plenty of room and good visability, once you get used to the front "A" pillar grumbles. Interior a bit plastic and the boot is a bit small. Overall a good little car.
Submitted: 15/02/2011 22:19:26
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Got this in 2007 and overall we have been pleased with it. The only real problem was that periodically you would be travelling at 70 mph and it would drop to 30mph and you could not go any faster. I had it in and out several times and it appears now at last to be fixed. As the lease soon expires I am considering buying the car. Just got its regular service yesterday at 62000 miles and was advised that the breaks and discs wil need to be changed in the next 3000 miles at a cost of circa 380 pounds and the cam belt will need to be changed at the next major service and that bill will be nearly a 800 pounds so need to bear that in mind.
Submitted: 12/02/2011 08:23:12
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What a car, best car I have ever owned. Has even weakened my desire for a 911. In this car you can scare 3 friends at the same time. Fuel consumption isnt too bad, 28mpg on a cruise.
Submitted: 30/01/2011 08:36:07
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Bought mine 4 months ago and am generally very pleased with it apart from ticking tappets when cold, although it has only done 49000 with full service history. First thing I did was flush and change the oil, but no difference. No one seems to know of this problem or what the cure might be. It is annoying but goes off after about 100Yds down the road. Great handling in the snow a couple of months back and I think I was one of the few people to get out of my road for a few days. Being Auto can be a bit thirsty on local trips but does average 35 on 60mph motorway runs(according to the trip computer). Not too bad comfort wise and my wife enjoys driving it and being 5 doors the dogs are quite happy to get in the back. I will certainly keep it for a few years unless it starts giving grief.
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I also have a very annoying rattle along with the ticking, sounds like a bloomin diesel! I’m told it’s the cam followers. Any advice on this anyone? Is it a big or lengthy job? Is it expensive? - James Lamb from Hampshire
My 2001 Pinin automatic 36K has loud tappets took it to Mitsubishi dealer for analysis. There is a upgrade kit of modified tappets which cost £880 to fit. I was told that no harm will come to the engine so I decided to leave things as they are. Anyone has experience of changing 4 wheel drive indicator bulbs? - Dennis from Derbyshire
Submitted: 28/01/2011 10:40:33
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We bought our Outlander in 2008 after quite a lot of research into several makes and models. We liked the look of the car its performance and economy. It is a great cruiser, with the cruise control set at 70ish it will go up hill and down dale all day long and return 45 m.p.g. We have actually recorded on twisty, turney roads 50.1 m.p.g. The only problem we have experienced was a slight misfire at 64m.p.h., which was difficult to diagnose as the problem was so slight it wouldn’t register on the computer. However it turned out to be the Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve which was replaced and everything was fine thereafter. Overall my Wife and I like the car and have no regrets whatsoever that we chose to buy it.
Submitted: 22/01/2011 21:47:07
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Boy, reading these reports have I been lucky? My ex Mitsu management car bought for ten under list with 14000miles now has 169000 on the clock and is still sweet, until just before Xmas. Only problems ’til then are the gearbox sensors (they all do that sir...), failed tailgate door lock (must be due to getting the dogs in and out all the time), slight bit of rust below RHS tailgate window, which I also had on a previous Shogun - must be a weak point. Also had some issues with the roof not closing properly, but resolved under warranty, but it may have been something to do with letting it close onto the cable for a yellow rotating beacon...doh! However, the engine’s been rattling; originally thought to be hydraulic tappets, it turns out to be a timing chain. I’ve probably done 2000-3000miles since it started rattling, hauling laden car trailers, so I think I must be lucky it didn’t break!!! But it’s apparently a 20 hour engine out job estimated at £2500-3000...gulp! However, two years ago my price to change to a comparable new shape was £10000 so in my book I’m still quids in if that is ALL that has gone wrong in that time and mileage, I’m happy!!!! With regards to the Satnav; when I first bought it it hardly worked at all, but they did something with the aerial in the rear side window and it works 90% of the time, not a great problem ’cos I trust my TomTom!! Also had some condensation in a rear light (replaced under warranty) and a dipstick recall; new design has two seals. Would I buy another one? Absolutely!!
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I have got to agree with the sentiment of your review. I have read through all the horror stories that people have and can only say that they must simply be unfortunate. I have owned Mitsubishis for years including Space Wagon, Charisma, Space Star, Colt Cabriolet Turbo, Lancer sport (twice), Colt Turbo (3 door), Outlander and have recently purchased a Shogun Sport. In all those years and through all those vehicles, I have only ever had three problems, all fixed by our local Mitsubishi dealer under warranty. Now our dealer, Devonshire Motors, is Mitsubishi Dealer of the year, and wins this award with nauseating regularity, but their attitude, service and experience demonstrate why they have received the award. I bought the Shogun Sport for towing, having used a Jeep Cherokee and Shogun 3.2 D in the past and had the option of a Jeep Cherokee on this occasion. My decision to purchase the Mitsi was not based on internet gossip or, perish the thought, Top Gear reviews but on simple statistics. Shoguns have fewer warranty claims than any other 4x4, end of story. I buy my vehicles with my eyes open, not for image or status. My colleague handed back his brand new BMW M3 4x4 after 6 weeks because of leaking windows, noises under the dashboard and faulty lights that meant he could be doing 80 at night and his lights would simply switch off. BMW took three weeks to find the problem, behind the dashboard, and returned his car with a ill-fitting display binnacle that rattled over 50mph. I quote this by comparison to my experience with Mitsubishi which I can only conclude is down to the dealer and a car marque that is renowned for its reliability. Incidentally, my Space Wagon, Space Star and Charisma are all still in the local area where the Charisma is now a taxi with 150K plus on the clock (1.6 Petrol). I hope this helps to allay the fears of any would-be buyers. As a last thought, I bought a new Renault Clio 1.6 Dynamique that receives orgasmic reviews everywhere, and kept it for only 12 weeks after the dealer responded to every problem with "yes, they all do that" and Renault wanted paying for solving the cold starting problem (won’t start at -3 degrees owing to an EMS problem). The car was a rattling bag of nails that I would never go near again, and our local Renault dealer, Prideaux Motors, were an indifferent bunch of showmen. I replaced it with a Colt 1.5 Turbo, 147bhp, 0-60 in 7 secs, no rattles, no squeaks and started first time in -17degrees! Enough said - Paul Ward from Devon
Submitted: 20/01/2011 15:01:59
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I love it! I do miss the 300hp+ of my old Volvo 850 but I bought this as the family tow car. The miles per gallon are not great, but no worse than the old Volvo, and I don’t notice a great difference to the MPG when towing. The down side is the price of the tax disc (+£400 per year) but thats not Mitsubishi’s fault. The car has all the toys I need and a comfortable leather interior. AC works well as does the heater. I used to have a 2.8 Shogun; at 4500 miles between services it was ridiculous, but this being newer the interval is an acceptable 9000 and I have found servicing cost actually pretty reasonable. The car is absolutely bullet proof and handles it’s self very well for a truck. If your looking for more perfomance and handling don’t buy this car!! It does exactly what it is designed to do extremely well and reliably. Where would I criticise it: it desperatly needs a 6th gear when the caravan isn’t on the back. I would say as a tow car they don’t come any better, I’ve never had a car that is better with a load on the back than without. I looked at the Kia Sorento when buying this and it was a close run thing Mitsy won based on the badge, but I’m pleased I did as the Kia’s tow capacity has been reduced recently.
Submitted: 16/01/2011 13:57:03
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I have a Shogun Classic Di-D Auto 2006, 44000 miles. The "Check Engine" light came on on 8th Dec 2010. Dealer diagnosed faulty fuel pump but couldn’t source one ("on back order" at Mitsubishi UK). I moved the car to a specialist diesel garage on 20th December. I have an extended warranty through Warranty Direct and have been battling with them ever since. Finally got authorisation to proceed with repair yesterday (13th January 2011). Two things to note: I’m told Mitsubishi’s diesel fuel pumps are prone to failure (replacement exchange unit £1300-£1700 + vat; new pumps £2900 + vat) + 4 hours labour to remove/refit. Secondly, don’t buy an extended warranty unless you are prepared for a major and lengthy battle to get the insurance company to pay out. And then no guarantees. Apart from that I would award the Shogun 4 stars. It is a good rugged comfortable towing vehicle that I use to launch boats off sandy beaches and tow caravans effortlessly for miles. If you need or want a proper 4x4 (not an AWD) then you have to be prepared for higher motoring costs. If you are just doing a school run or the ASDA shopping, then buy a car more appropriate.
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Update: Collected 17th January 2011. Fault with fuel pump fixed. But 400 miles later the engine light came on again. Back in the garage and this time the fault code diagnosis was for a faulty boost pressure sensor (£18 + 30mins labour + VAT). New one fitted and car collected today (28th Jan). Hopefully nothing else will go wrong :-) Adrian Clark from Fife and Kinross Shires
Submitted: 16/01/2011 13:52:36
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Bought Shogun Sport in 2005 new, has 26,000 miles on clock and have just been told need new injector pump at cost of approx £1700 excl VAT, this is an absolute disgrace. My last Mitsubishi L200 encountered major engine problems, wont be buying Mitsubishi again unless they pay for new injector pump.
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The Shogun Sport and L200 with the 1980s 2.5 4d56 engine are very weak due to being overloaded with higher boost pressures and electronic fuel pump gizmos to get more power and fail as a result. I had a Shogun Sport Warrior with 60k on the clock and the diesel pump went, the turbo was knackered and the head cracked within two months! I then bought a 3.0v6 model and converted it to LPG. Very economical and far more comfortable on the motorway where the 2.5td felt like it was struggling above 50mph - Aaron Kay from Cornwall
Submitted: 07/01/2011 21:17:03
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I brought the barbarian and so far have no regrets. The only trouble I have is with the roof box, it pops open all the time and when you park up you have to check it’s locked.
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One of our employees had this vehicle on hire whilst ours was being repaired and in the time he had it, the lock on the rear tailgate failed to engage and fell open, losing several of his tools. When we called the hire company (before they knew about the loss of the tools) and they said not to worry about it, it’s a common problem and happens all the time! Has anyone else come across this problem? - Jacqui Power from Kent
Submitted: 03/01/2011 20:28:01
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I have had my shogun 3.2 auto field from new. I have done 64,000 miles and the automatic transmission has gone. I’ve had terrible trouble trying to get a reconditioned one and have waited over six week for someone to locate one. This has now been found and is costing £2000. I have been informed that this is a common fault on this vehical. I feel let down as I purchased it with a view that if I looked after it I could expect at least 80,000 miles trouble free driving.
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They need the auto transmission fluid changing every 28,000 miles. Did you do that? - James Frost from England
Submitted: 27/12/2010 21:24:57
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After a Passat wanted to downsize. A degree of exclusivity here, how many do you see? Ok so it’s not as well made as a Corsa or Fiesta but £30 for a years tax and good mpg. Still can’t find the boot, there’s a glovebox where the boot should be and the rear seats do not slide on 5 door cleartec. After a month of ownership i’m suitably impressed. Buy one and watch your savings grow.
Submitted: 20/12/2010 21:48:09
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Having done my research on timing chains and engines being flung from cars I decided to get my recently purchased well looked after second hand shogun checked. Car serviced and chain checked for tension etc, away we go. Two days later the transmission switches stop working, replace all 5 of them costing £430. As shown in earlier reviews this is a common fault, brilliant! Two weeks later chain snaps (nice AA man suggests I’m lucky not doing 70mph on motorway). Looking forward to the HUGE bill for a new engine. Guess what? All Mitsubishi dealers in our area are busy until early/mid Jan 2011! Probably busy fixing other utterly useless so called UTILITY vehicles.
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Did you have the top chain guide replaced at 30,000 miles? Sounds like the checking garage turned your crank shaft the wrong way while checking, that’s why chain broke because they damaged the chain tensioner - James from England
Submitted: 20/12/2010 08:45:08
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Excellent specification, fun to drive, not your normal Euro box. The optional service plan for £315 is a bargin and can be transfered if you sell the car. General fit and finish above average, a little dark in the cab but comfortable. Fuel economy average for a car in this class.
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I had the same problem recently with my 2003 Polo. I don’t know if the fusebox will be located in the same place on a 1997 model but in case it is: Open the driver’s door to access & open the flat fusebox panel on the right hand side of the dashboard then check for a burnt 25amp blade fuse (replacement fuses available at most garages for a couple of pounds) - J Smith from England
Submitted: 01/12/2010 21:38:00
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Love this car. Nice, simple, very well made motor, has all the electrics you could wish for. Very simple dash but not a problem. Cheap to run and maintain. Great second-hand buy.
Submitted: 24/11/2010 21:50:31
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Mitsubishi Shogun 2004 Diesel 3.2 DiD. Purchased new and now in garage again! 87K miles and now needs a new engine. Started with major over heating problem, which turned out to be a recall for the oil pump which was replaced under warranty. 6 months later had to have a new Ali head (Warped) at over £3.5K which was amazingly nothing to do with the major over heating warranty problem. In the snow last year the 4 wheel drive diff got stuck and could not be taken out of drive. I had to wait 4 weeks for a new bit to arrive as apparently everyone had needed one and there was no longer stock in the country. Of course this could not be not a manufacturing fault. Now top end timing belt completely shot and looking at another £3k bill. Rubbish.
Submitted: 09/11/2010 22:34:58
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The truck was serviced on Thursday this evening I had to rescue my boss from the roadside as his Cambelt (chain) has snapped and shattered the engine and various other bits and bobs, surely a 100k service should have shown this problem up?!
Submitted: 26/10/2010 21:39:48
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Great City car, fun to drive - only problem, 3 months out of warranty, @ 49,333 miles and the gearbox has gone!!! A £2,200 bill to get sorted. Now, the car has been serviced by a Mitsu garage at every interval, any problems have been reported and dealt with by Mitsu.... all in all a 3 year old car, that is an automatic should not need a new gearbox!! If your car starts to emit very jerky gear changes in kickdown, it struggles on creep, this is the start of a knackered gearbox. Be wary!
Submitted: 18/10/2010 22:25:48
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Bought this car because we liked all the features it came with. Car as a car is good but we came across a very big problem when we were towing our caravan. It will be doing 60 mph on flat motorway then without warning drops to 30mph. This has been fixed: in France they changed the turbo valve but kept doing it the rest of the holiday. It has been in and out of garage 2 or 3 times since we got it, they say it is fixed and it does run OK until you go to tow. We are not towing above weight and car is 2.4lt. The problem still exists so will need to change cars as it is not reliable when on holiday or touring, which is a big part of our lifestyle.
Submitted: 12/10/2010 15:55:52
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I have an L200 Animal, the vehicle has now 50,000 on clock it has broken nsr spring which I replaced at cost of £235.00 from dealers and now 2 mths later the osr has done the same thing and I will have to order another spring. Has any one had problem like this and are the manufacturers liabel to replace this foc as a defect? This should not happen with this mileage as the car is only used for sdp.
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I have owned 4 different models of L200, the springs break due to no load on the suspension when running round with no weight in - Gary from Yorkshire
I’m having the same problem, two springs broke in three months. Not sure why - Kyle Porter from Northern Ireland
Submitted: 03/10/2010 21:55:47
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This is my second shogun owned a SWB for 5 years never had a fault with it fab motor however, the shogun I have now is nice to drive and does the job but has had a few minor faults. The main one I have just noticed is that on each door frame round the window it is starting to rust it is under it’s 3 year warranty & therefore, will be going back next week. Also the drivers seat when taking a sharp corner eg in a car park the seat seem to slide. The garage man said he could not find anything wrong & it was my seat cover!! It is of course going back again. I hope we do no find any more faults with it as the warranty runs out next year.
Submitted: 02/10/2010 20:49:36
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Bought in ’07 from main dealer, had nothing but trouble, diesel leak, diff switches replaced all 6 of them, brake calliber replaced as snapped. Now head gaskit blown and needs new engine. All this and a few more, under extended warrenty which i must say fight me to do any repairs, its been in the garage every month this year, I am thinking of doing a calender to advertise its faults. The car has only done 100,000 miles which is nothing on a diesel engine, I need this car due to my equestrian business, but as its been in the garage for the last 3 weeks due to the head gaskit blowing and needs a replacement engine, which the warranty people are refusing to pay the £7000 bill, I feel let down by this car and the warranty and Mitsubishi. I wonder if any body has experianced the same problems?. It’s a shame as I really thought it would be a good workhorse, may look nice but the engine and reliabilty are zero, not only that a very expensive car to repair with so many faults think twice.
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Hi, I have a 2004 Shogun with about 87,000 miles on the clock. I love this car but had a catastrophic overheat. I found a company (Federation of Enginer Rebuilders Member) that took me ages to commit to as I know about ’shark’ garages.
Anyway, long story short, he rebuilds the engine only to tell me that it’s blown again due to EGR cooler and dipstick recall!
He wants me to pay another £3,700 plus VAT! No chance so I’ve contacted Trading Standards and thankfully he has to put it all right for original contract - phew! Check your legal rights before giving your car to any garage - Patricia Downes from Wrexham
Submitted: 28/09/2010 20:51:55
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Had a 2008 Animal before test driving the Barbarian and I couldn’t recommend that enough. The 2008 truck was reliable (after a couple of glitches) and went like hell. The 2010 Barbarian however, was a different kettle of fish. The thing fell apart after about 10 mins of driving it! The dash top popped out, the fuel flap fell off and when I opened the tailgate, the trim around the handle fell off too. It drove nowhere near as good as the old one. I am sorry to say that I was so disappointed I bought a Toyota Hilux instead, for less money to swap!
Submitted: 24/09/2010 21:47:35
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1st class car and tows my twin axle caravan like a dream. Certainly the best tow car I have owned. Fuel consumption is in the 30s and comfortable to drive. Looks good and does what it should. Performance from standstill wont take your breath away but once moving you will be surprised how well it picks up. Brakes responsive, and steering feels the same as any other 4x4 I have driven. Summary: a great car and one I am sure will stand the test of time.
Submitted: 22/09/2010 15:26:30
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I have a L200 Raging Bull, since buying it we have had nothing but problems, the truck is a 57 plate so not old at all. We have had it for 19 months, so far it’s broken down 3 times. TWICE the turbo pipe has blew off. The four wheel drive has been stuck in four wheel drive four times. It has been recalled by DVLA 3 times for faults made by Mitsubishi. Then the clutch has gone at a cost of £1052. The interior has to be replaced due to a window fault, the list goes on and on...
Submitted: 21/09/2010 22:06:50
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I’ve only had this car for 8 days and 700 miles. It handles well and is well behaved on motorways and country roads. The downside? It drinks (I’m averaging 27mpg in an automatic). It rattles, particularly the rear parcel shelf (a poor excuse for one) and the leather upolstery, which is fitted in the UK, squeaks. The Kenwood ICE, also UK fitted, is impossible (you need a degree in electronics, and a microcope to see the buttons) and mine doesn’t have a functioning Sat Nav (it seldom aquires satellites). For a ’true offroader" the 4x4 system has been downspecced and the locking rear diff has been omitted. So too has the headlamp wash. The wind noise at speed is intrusive. Shooters buy the LWB or your dogs will have to sit on the seats. The cargo area in the SWB is a joke. I have removed the rear seat headrests so I can see out the back.
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27 mpg is not bad for a powerful auto 4x4. I have driven many 4x4’s and I think you may find that fuel mileage will improve after 10k miles when things have loosened up a bit and the fun factor of blasting around has worn off - Tony from England
Submitted: 09/09/2010 23:15:19
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Plenty mpvs to choose from, but as a disabled driver it ticked all the boxs. Very comfortable, extremely safe, more like driving a good saloon, forget it’s a mpv[3rd one]. Small thing: no up/down on steering wheel only rake. And finally good fuel returns.
Submitted: 04/09/2010 22:25:51
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It’s the dog’s b..... It’s just in a class of its own!
Submitted: 03/09/2010 13:17:18
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Never owned a 4x4 before. I recently traded in my Audi S3 02 plate for a Volvo V50 sport 2.5 turbo d5 engine auto, it had 97 k on the clock and full dealer history. I had it 5 weeks, it was in garage 4 of them, what a crock of sh**e! Got my coin back and bought a Shogun 3.2.d elegance, 54 k, 1 owner, full history; feel like a millionaire, best motor ever. It’s fantastic inside, how can any nugget slag the leather interior? It’s better than the Recaro I had in the Audi. The sound system and sat nav is awesome. It’s good on fuel, love it! The Japanese know what they are doing.
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Mitsubish Shogun Elegance 2005. I bought my LWB Shogun Elegance 2 years ago and I cannot tell you how much I loved this 4x4 until now. I ADORED it, however it let me down 3 weeks ago and nobody seems to know what is the matter with it. Mitsubishi are clueless. Felt like an idiot walking through the snow this morning with a broken down 4x4 on the drive and it now looks like this is going to be the most expensive Xmas ever to get it back on the road. I am heartbroken but think I will test drive a Toyota Land Cruiser next time - Alison Bowden from Cheshire
When my Shogun works it’s outstanding. But has had too many problems, all costing fortunes, won’t be getting another one - Rob from England
Submitted: 16/08/2010 21:18:51
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I bought the 2008/2009 Diamond recently from a dealer. Have travelled to Poland/Slovakia/Hungary without any problems. The 2.2 Peugot Diesel Engine I would say is a bit unrefined and noisy. Leather seats are comfortable for long journeys. The only thing that I found defective was the roof DVD player for passengers. Something I have taken up with the dealer. But otherwise well satisfied with the Outlander.
Submitted: 16/08/2010 21:13:15
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Car is just gone 4 years old and done 67k miles. It’s had problems with the rear brakes binding on and overheating. The pads have been replaced a couple of times and the disks also. The Scorpion tires seem to last 35k miles and are coming up for replacement again (so that will be another £600-£800 soon). Recently I’d noticed a little oil under it, and a drip hanging on the diff, (as in, not actively dripping, just sat there) but not got around to getting it checked. The diff exploded on the motorway due to overheat due to insufficient oil. First painful lesson - get oil drips checked *very* promptly. Recovery and replace of diff - £400 and £2100 respectively. A full service, another £500. In the time it had been stood awaiting inspection and repair, the battery had failed. Oh and the OSR coil spring was broken. Apparently speed bumps do that. So another couple of hundred. Just got it back from the dealer’s garage, and it won’t shift into 4WD. The wheel lights flash and go out; the diff light flashes orange. Traction control is permantly off. Back to garage, did they even road test it? Apparently this is a common fault, all the gearbox actuator switches are worn and need replacing (another £450). And completely unrelated to the work they have just done. This is a car that has rarely seen 4WD since I figured the fuel consumption was better in 2WD. The worst it’s had to cope with is the odd muddy field/slope and snow/ice on the road. So worn how? You can argue fault over the diff but in the space of a month this car has cost me the thick end of £4k with more to come. Its hardly been overworked and is just 4 years old. It’s certainly not lived up to any "robust" image and I won’t be buying another, I cant afford it!
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UPDATE: The garage advised that the oil seals were probably leaking whilst the vehicle was being driven, rather than when stationary, so could have been leaking for a while. There is no warning for low oil in the diff, even though the results are catastrophic. The 4WD issue related to the gearbox/transmission actuators / switches. Apparently these failed due to water ingress and have been replaced with a newer design that come as a block rather than individual switches, with better sealing. Although the design has been upgraded, there is no recall or programme for renewal other than by the owner. On a more positive note, I finally used the 4WD fixed diff (high gear) setting this weekend camping in the Lakes, to ascend a rocky mound overgrown with wet grass, navigating between boulders. Performed perfectly - Chaz Angel from Durham
I was advised when I purchased my Shogun, to regularly (every week or so) put it into the 4WD positions, even if not needed, as they have a tendency to stick with knock on bother. Other owners please note! Adrian from Fife and Kinross Shires
A year on, it’s now done 82k miles. Yet another set of pads and disks and this time a replacement of the sticking calliper. Apparently, this should be £850 but I’m getting it for £450. The OSR spring is broken again (apparently I don’t put enough weight in the back of the car) another £300. Corroded brake pipes £200 (MOT fail); leaking coolant pipe £200 (or your car will seize). Somehow this adds up to £1600 with the service & MOT (I feel the garage are taking advantage) The car has started refusing to go into top gear unless I use the manual shift so I can see a new (reconditioned) gearbox being just a matter of time. All this on a 5 year old car that has rarely seen a muddy field. I will never buy Mitsubishi again. The only plus I have, in the blizzards and deep snow last year, I finally got to use the 4LLc. The road holding was superb. Passing abandoned cars that were just humps in the white-out, it was good to get home safely - Chaz Angel from Durham
Submitted: 16/08/2010 15:47:28
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Brilliant car! The 6 speed AMT transmission isn’t perfect, but what an engine... quite nippy, fantastic fuel economy. I was getting 52 mpg around town, and around 65+ on longer runs. The only gripe I have is that the boot space is a bit limited. Really well built little car, I’ve had it for 3 years, and 37,000 miles, absolutely no faults whatever. Why oh why have they dropped the diesel engine option on the new models?
Submitted: 10/08/2010 14:22:40
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I drive a Toyota Hilux VX270 2003. It is ultra reliable. I test drove an demo L200 Barbarian Auto today. It is a very nice vehicle to drive. £26000 though, so a lot of money and the issue of reliability worries me.
Submitted: 07/08/2010 20:59:15
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I took advantage of the scrabbage scheme and was delighted to find the Cabriolet CZ3 was being discontinued and therefore price reduction. I have had my car for a year now and have been lucky after looking at some of the other comments. So far so good.
Submitted: 26/07/2010 14:34:32
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All round versatile car which drives well. Funny how things start going wrong once the warranty period ends and Mitsubishi parts and labor very expensive. I suppose that is true for most modern cars these days.
Submitted: 19/07/2010 13:15:44
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This is my second shogun having owned a used 94 LWB 3.0 V6 with a mileage of 149,000-190,000 for five good years before it finally retired due to a broken push rod in one of the cylinders a few years ago. Since then I had a 98 Nissan Patrol 2.8 LWB, a 2005 Discovery 3 2.7 HSE, a 2004 Toyota Landcruiser 3.0 V6 LWB and now my 2003 Mitsubishi Shogun LWB 3.2 DI-D Warrior. I love this car because it not only look good it is generously equipped as well. I particularly love its auto box for its smooth operation and the fact that you can shift from auto to manual because it has a sport mode feature similar to high-end sport cars/SUVs. You can also engage four wheel drive on the fly just by simply engaging the lever, even when your doing 70 mph. This car has the largest engine in its class having 3.2 litres when most 4x4 in this range has only 2.7-3.0, which is very anaemic by 4x4 standards (Disco). Another thing I love with this car is the ability to accommodate 7 people (which is a must for me having 5 kids) with the rear seats can be folded unto the floor when not needed. Fuel consumption is just average compared to all the 4x4 I have owned with the exception of the Disco, which guzzled fuel more than a tank. The only drawback I have with this car is the suspension on the rear (independent suspension) of which I have noticed is bound to sag when moving 7 passengers all the time, a thing which my previous Toyota and Nissan were more capable of in this area because of their solid axle on the rear which translates to good load carrying capabilities. I also like the visibility this car offers in relation to the driver and the road, a fact my wife learnt to appreciate having passed her driving test with this big 4x4 when she refused to drive the likes of the Patrol. As all cars suffers from minor to major hiccups my shogun had suffered an Engine oil leak but was quickly fixed when the oil pressure switch was replaced. Initially experienced vibration from the steering wheel when doing 60 mph but disappears at 70 mph or 50 mph which was strange at that time but was gone when I fitted wheel spacers to all four wheel hubs. The only existing problem I have at the moment is when starting up cold in the morning, the engine sometimes won’t fire up, which at first was thought to be a flat battery but after this was changed the problem was still there this was soon resolved by engaging the auto box (sliding the lever from park -drive-park) before switching on again. My Shogun isn’t perfect but it does the job and it has never bothered me one bit. It faithfully abides whatever its owners ask it to do whether going camping with 2 adults+5 kids+1 dog and a gigantic roof box + a Canadian canoe going Mt. climbing on the lake district to the lovely Aberdaron in Wales, miles after miles it has been going strong thanks to bullet proof Japanese technology and Mitsubishi. I would definitely recommend it to anyone contemplating of getting one it’s a lot of car for the money of just go for Japanese build quality for that matter and you will not go wrong.
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Hi, I’m interested to know what you did with the Landcruiser? Josh Thomas from Australia
Submitted: 18/07/2010 20:37:28
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I have 2005 Field and 2006 Elegance LWB autos. If you go off road ditch the road tyres and get some General Grabber AT2. I got stuck on a flat grass field with the road tyres. The traction control is amazing on these Shoguns I have pulled several 4WD pickups out of fields with it. I use the Field everday on road and off road and it is the most comfortable car I have ever been in. I have been in every 4 WD made except a Hummer and the Shogun is as good as the best. Having read the reviews on here I’m going to have a look at the timing chain. Also parts are really expensive, fog light £170, rear door handle £80 wife was rammed by a wheely bin. Also I have fitted an aluminium grill behind the bumper to match the other grills to keep the bugs/grass seeds out.
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James, you seem to have a lot of knowledge about the Shogun. Is this acquired from experience or can anyone find out this kind of info? - Alison Bailey from Cheshire
Submitted: 17/07/2010 21:04:52
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I like this car, its comfortable, spacious, with large boot. I have one for 6 years. It is very reliable. Very cheap. It has the price of a supermini. I have it with 135.000km without any problem. Services are very cheap also. Everybody thinks it’s more expensive. Also although it’s 1.3lt I can drive with 40-50Km/h with 5th gear! like 1.6lt What I don’t like is the steering - is quite heavy. But is generally a good choice!
Submitted: 17/07/2010 20:53:24
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I have had the Warrior now for three months and in that time the vehicle has matched my expectations of it, my previous vehicle being a Pajero which was also a good all rounder. This vehicle is well made, has excellent brakes, good steering and very very good road holding. It performs well both on and off road. I agree the suspension is hard but when off road over hard boulders etc., it really does come into its own. It is a vehicle not designed to be quick as it is low geared and ideal for towing just about anything. A previous reviewer remarks on the Freelander being the better option and that might be the case for him but the Freelander, in particular the later one comes at a very high premium. My weekly mpg is 26 to 27 mixed driving and on a long run at speeds not exceeding 70 mph it will return 31 mpg. To sum up I would not hesitate to recommend this vehicle to those who want a truck that will go anywhere and do anything and carry big loads. All round a good value for money vehicle!
Submitted: 11/07/2010 21:49:44
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Pick-up trucks are hairy masculine vehicles for rufty-tufty types with names like Hank, Luke or Digger who all wear rigger boots and Stetsons and say ’Howdy’. ’Only baccy chewin’, ’red-necks’ who fly the Confederate flag and live at Dry Gulch Farm at the end of a mile long rutted track could even handle one of those’, I hear you say. Well, I say’ How wrong you are’. The new L200 Barbarian long cab pick-up from Mitsubishi that can double as a work vehicle (which some might call a truck) is not only easy for little Annie Oakley to drive, but is luxurious and comfy enough for her to drive to the High School Prom - dressed up an’ lookin all pretty like. At £26,935 it’s the dearest version of the L200 - the biggest selling pick-up in the UK. It’s not only popular here with Bob The Builder, but with anyone who wants a multi- purpose vehicle that will do just about everything - and it’s so much fun too, with a ’wow factor’ to impress everyone from Hell’s Angels to Eddie Stobart drivers. It offers a trunk load of goodies inside, like sat-nav to stop you getting lost on the Lonesome Pine Trail, a reversing camera to stop you reversing over the vicars wife’s Micra, super comfy leather seats for you and three large buddies (It’s a ’double cab’), a top quality sound system, air conditioning and power windows. There’s a general feeling of well-being and ’bigness’ - thanks to the spacious front and back accommodation which is insulated from the lumps and bumps over which you will, no doubt, drive at breakneck speed on your way to the metalled highway where you will be able to cruise surprisingly quietly at speed. As well as being capable and competent off- road thanks to switch-able four wheel drive, a set of well chosen low ratios and a ruggedness that could make a charging rhino think again about arguing with that ’tough truck with the separate ladder chassis and one tonne payload capacity’, the Barbarian is quite civilised and cosseting on long main road journeys - where you can set the cruise control and climate control and just relax and listen to Dolly Parton. The powerful 175bhp 2.5 litre diesel is simply splendid and will take you to 111mph if you want - but the walloping 295lbs/ft of torque at just 2000rpm is memorable. You can tow giant boats, caravans, horseboxes and even elephant boxes - and they do say that some dentists are considering using Barbarians to extract stubborn teeth. When not flexing its biceps and just moseying into town with no load on-board the Barbarian returns a pleasing 34/35 mpg overall. (Readers might like to know that a recently tested Ford Fiesta with an atomic gearbox only managed 32mpg overall!) - So let’s not hear any protests from the lettuce munching ’Green Lobby’. Surprisingly for a big vehicle with leaf spring rear suspension, it’s safe and secure on twisty roads and - loaded or unloaded - you can cut quite a pace through bends. In todays modern times even the Barbarians adopt a civilised form. It might not be subtle to the nth.degree with its 17" alloys and glittering chrome and stainless steel exterior details but it has all the vigour and poise of a Barbary steed and - on another continent and in a bygone age - if Hannibal had been equipped with a few of these, the Romans would have stood no chance, such is the overall capability on or off road. This is one Barbarian that will deliver the goods without brutalising your wallet. Hannibal would have really appreciated that trunk load of goodies and ’Alp-eating’ capacity - and while it packs more punch than a pachyderm, it’s invested with the style and poise of a catwalk model. So there you have it. The new Barbarian is as versatile as a batallion of brainy octopuses with so much grip to spare as to make suckers of its rivals.
Submitted: 06/07/2010 13:30:36
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Bought my Shogun Sport Warrior 5 months ago and it’s the best money I have spent on a car in years. I agree that it’s a bit thirsty and slow, but I know being stuck 2500 meters up a snow covered mountain in Italy that I was glad I was in my Shogun Sport! If you’re thinking about buying one, don’t think just buy it!
Submitted: 01/07/2010 20:43:24
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I bought a new (2010) Colt in March of this year and I am delighted with it. It has everything that I want in a car, air con, electric mirrors, free servicing for three years, free AA membership. This is my nineteenth car in 53 years of driving and it is the best one I’ve ever had. One small niggle I had with it was the aerial which used to catch on my garage door. It was just too long. So I replaced it with an ultra short Bee-sting aerial and now I am completely satisfied.
Submitted: 27/06/2010 21:42:21
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Fantastic car, great size and a really looking car. I got the illusion blue colour, and it really is nice. The Colt is a great running car. I shall sell mine later on in the year, and update to a 2009 Mitsibushi Colt . I would recommend.
Submitted: 25/06/2010 21:17:01
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This vehicle has got to rank as the worst vehicle I have ever purchased and driven. The engine size is far too small for the body shell and whilst I know a lot of drivers love it’s truck like appearance and carrying capacity, but there is really no performance at all. The brakes are atrocious, the steering is hopeless and its ability to soak up bumps etc., leaves you reeling after a long journey. I have recently been out in a newish Freelander and whilst I know there is a great price difference, the Freelander is vastly superior in just about every facet of motoring.
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You obviously aren’t looking for a competent off road machine, your preference in the Freelander confirms this. I had a Freelander and got fed up with the 4wd system packing up... even when it was working right it was pathetic off road. The Challenger isn’t as competent off road as many other vehicles, and on road its manerisms are very agricultural... this is probably down to the separate chassis/body layout, but this also offers excellent rigidity and robustness (is this even a word??) for the rough stuff. My Challenger is the 2.8 td, with increased fuelling, bosst and uprated intercooler mounted on the front behind the bumper it has ample performance and doubles as a drift car in power mode with the overdrive off and in 2wd.. :) Colin Scougal from Durham
Having previously owned two Freelanders, I agree the Freebie is more suitable for urban use, but both the TD4 and petrol versions that I had were hopless when it came to reliability, not to metion very expensive. It’s no good if doesn’t work. It also very much depends what you want to use your car for! Nick from Durham
Like I’ve mentioned before, I work in a garage and it is a fact that with a K-series petrol-powered Freelander, it isn’t so much IF the head gasket will go, but when. They are a bloody nightmare. I agree to some extent that the Shogun Sport isn’t particularly fast but I wouldn’t agree that the engine is too small. It may not hurl down the road with any great urgency but try pulling a long-wheelbase Transit up a sloping field in a foot of snow with your Freelander (no, on second thoughts, better not!). The Shogun Sport is a proper roader with limited-slip rear axle, low-range, and full under-body protection. I have never been in a situation where it has been defeated in the severe conditions we have up here. I have actually gone looking for trouble on some occasions, 1 in 3 snow-covered slopes and no detectable wheelspin. Not fast but like a mountain goat, awesome machine - Phillip Taylor from Yorkshire
I have a Freelander TD and tour carvans and horse boxes without ease! The Freelander (53 plate) struggles on hills and wet fields. Don’t try and reverse it will not do that task. The Freelander needs 2.5L and low ratio box. If it had this it would be very good, but alas it has not ans is not good for towing - Chris W from Cardiff
Submitted: 20/06/2010 21:58:42
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I have only had our CZ1 for 5 weeks, what a little cracker. Brilliant fuel economy, excellent build quality and the exhaust note of the 1.1 is great. I’ve now sold my 4x4 and am looking for another one.
Submitted: 17/06/2010 20:40:52
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Mitsubishi Lancer Hatchback 1.5 GS2 Manual With sporty styling, keen pricing and a motor sports ’halo’ provided by the forthcoming Lancer Evolution X, the tenth generation Lancer in ’Sportback’ form, provides a serious challenge to its mainstream competitors in the moderate size family hatchback range. Mitsubishi offer a full family of Lancers in either saloon or hatchback with prices for Sportback’s starting at just £14,449. and rising to over £50,000 for that devastatingly powerful, giant killing Evo. version that is the stuff of legend. In an era when the very concept of motoring is under fire, the superb ’Lancer Jet Fighter look’ stokes the flames for the true enthusiast. The Sportback is red blooded, vigorous and virile and is a dynamic example of cavalier charisma without going to extremes of performance. But back onto a realistic everyday footing, the new Lancer Sportback’s strength lies not in supersonic performance but in excellent value for money - and outstanding build quality that puts to shame much of the competition. As always with Mitsubishi, that quality seems to know no bounds and I can only suggest that if Napoleon had a battalion of these at Waterloo we wouldn’t be walking around in Wellingtons. We’d be swaddled in Napoleon nappies in slavish obeisance to the nanny state. Thank goodness for Japanese designers and the Samurai spirit. Tested here, the £14,499 GS2 Sportback with the 1.5 litre petrol engine represents remarkable value. Equipment levels are generous and you get air conditioning as standard, twin front, side and knee airbags, a trip computer and power windows all round - not forgetting a good sound system. There’s more room than in previous Lancers too, thanks to a longer wheelbase and wider track - so driver and passengers can stretch out and relax in an environment that totally belies the models tempting price. It’s able even in today’s hide bound motoring world to pack a punch, while of necessity retaining a plethora of safety conscious and economical money saving features in reserve: it’s close to having your cake and eating it. Despite the 1.5 litre engine delivering just 107bhp, this Lancer is a lively car if the engine is kept in the upper reaches of the rev. range. It’s a smooth unit that thrives on revs so gearing is fairly low and consequently the car feels faster than it really is, taking you to a top speed of around 115mph - yet at the same time returning overall fuel consumption of 43mpg - which is very acceptable in these straitened times. Driving dynamics, of course, reflect Mitsubishi’s rallying heritage and you can revel in the truly excellent handling, taking bends at speeds that would cause other cars to end up in the hedgerow. After my twisty rural road enjoyment I progressed to the usual interminable traffic jam. Glancing across to the next lane where - in contrast to my state of absolute comfort - I perceived that the planet saving driver of the squillion pound hybrid motor car next to me was looking pale and serious and much fatigued. To cheer him up I blipped the throttle of my Lancer but he was completely oblivious: caught in the bubble of his own benevolence. This is a car that makes its point by offering top quality and particularly attractive looks. Point it North, East, South or West it’s up with the best in its class. And as Sir Lancelot would say, ’I joust not’.
Submitted: 17/06/2010 13:21:13
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Bought the Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 did classic in 2006. Right from purchase had problems with juddering when cruising. Been in to dealer numerous times. Had throttle valve solenoid replaced, new clutch and new flywheel after it "shattered". Currently been in garage for three weeks with problem with diesel pump. Now told needs replacement main engine block!!!!!
Submitted: 14/06/2010 20:24:05
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Best car by miles the only downside with mine is there isn’t a owner manual in the car, it was bought from a big used car company, does anyone know how to get hold of one?
Submitted: 30/05/2010 20:43:53
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Have not had any problems yet and can only praise the car really. My wife uses the Shogun to tow a Ifor Williams 510 (and horse of 16.3 hands), which it does easily. I cannot fault the comfort either as I do hundreds of miles at a time and never feel tired. It is also fairly good on diesel, which is surprising for the size of the engine. All in all, so far so good and hopefully look forward to a new model soon.
Submitted: 23/05/2010 21:08:06
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All round a good truck, although I am having problems with the HMI / satnav screen. When the system is turned on it can take up to 2-3 hours to locate the sattelites and doesn’t always interface fully with the i-phone on bluetooth, i.e. no access to phonebook or direct dial numbers. Connection via lead into stereo for i-pod also intermittent. The vehicle is very well built and is a pleasure to drive but the problems with the electronics are spoiling what is otherwise a good vehicle. The problems are intermittent so the dealers say hard to sort surely it is just a change of unit that is needed?
Submitted: 19/04/2010 17:43:04
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Purchase 6 months old, travelled everywhere with a Caravan on back (twin axle) done 109,000 served according to manufacture. Still original battery exhaust. replaced Front Disks and heater pipe to back only. Never broke down. Trading in now for the new model.
Submitted: 15/04/2010 20:55:49
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Like a few of the reviews on here the car is let down by nagging problems like the windows jumping back down when you close them. After about nine visits to Mitsubishi and a threatening letter the problem still remains. One good thing is it doesn’t leak, even at the car wash! I would imagine after several bodged attempts to fix the problem the whole window assembly will need replacing. Nothing else has gone wrong with the car except a bulb so it is reliable. One thing that some people might find difficult is parking as you can’t see the front or back of the car! Fortunately mine has parking sensors front and rear. Overall very happy with the car but it is let down by Mitsubishi service standards.
Submitted: 15/04/2010 14:52:41
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Absolutely brilliant vehicle, bought after owning four Isuzu Troopers, the Shogun is a better vehicle in every way but is not economical when pushed. Superb in the snow, could not have kept my business going without it this winter, nothing has gone wrong with the vehicle and I will definitely be getting another.
Submitted: 15/04/2010 14:48:15
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Wiper linkage snapped on my 2003 SWB also in January. When I rang Mitsibushi they advised me to get one from a breakers yard. Problem was nobody had them.
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How much did YOU pay for replacement if you don’t mind me asking?? - Nate from Northern Ireland
I repaired a friends wiper linkage on a 01 SWB Shogun when it popped off the ball end by drilling a small hole through the end and into the metal ball and put in a nice self tapping screw. Thats over 2 years ago and still working - Stephen from County Tyrone
Submitted: 20/03/2010 13:53:47
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I have had the car a year so it has been well tested. I have the following problems: gear crunch 2nd-3rd mostly when cold, front seat belts do not retract and driver windows will not always close. I mentioned the issues at the service 6 months ago but none were addressed. Am taking it back next week under the warranty. Otherwise I really like this car and love that you hardly see any about, think I have seen about 6 in a year! Loads of space up front and the back ’seats’ are the perfect excuse for never being a designated driver! They are just the job for extra storage when the roof is down. I like that there is a good bit of room under the folded roof for the regular boot junk save having to move stuff about. When the roof is up the boot is huge. I get two suitcases, two dog crates and numerous belongings in with no trouble for holidays. I think this is a great little car and I have not had problems with leaking windows. The boot door does drip water into the boot when its wet and don’t park under trees or the bird poo will end up in your boot!
Submitted: 18/02/2010 09:51:17
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This car is a delight. It’s different from all the others on the road because it has character and a most distinctive appearance. Of course it’s a two-seater but the rear seats integrate well into the complete design. Handling, performance and economy are all commendable. The open top option and its operation for a car of this size is probably as well thought out as any other brand. If ever there was a need for a test run, this is it. If you are looking for a stylish yet small cabriolet with many features, if you don’t need more than one passenger, if you want good performance, economy and reliability try the Colt Cabriolet CZC. Young driver or older driver you won’t be disappointed.
Submitted: 16/02/2010 13:28:23
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Always wanted one so saved the cash and bought a 2005 with 44,000 on the clock. Total rubbish gearbox crunch, heavy on fuel watched my new tyres disappear in front of my eyes, can’t wait to get rid and buy a Transit Smiley.
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I got a 2002 L200 two years ago (98,000 miles) and never had a problem with it! Tyres have lasted me two years on Bridgestones and I do a lot of miles. Tough and reliable!! David Currie from Stirlingshire
Submitted: 23/01/2010 18:53:49
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I ordered the car in the March and was promised a delivery date of 4-6 weeks but it wasn’t actually available until September. Within a week the car developed an oil leak and over the next 15 months the car has been repaired 6 times. I have done 510 miles backwards and forwards to the garage until the dealer found that it was costing too much money to repair with no end result. Mitsubishi have now fitted a new engine (the old one had 3500 miles on) to cure the problem. It’s the inconvenience and time lost that is the most annoying problem. If I could have got a replacement car at the start, things would have been different but the style is now unavailable. Apart from that so far so good.
Submitted: 20/01/2010 09:15:33
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Let me down for the first time this week since purchase new in Nov 2003. Battery failed first (not bad after over 6 years and 75000 miles) and now the windscreen wiper linkage has broken. Very frustrating that when you need a 4x4 its off the road because you cant see through the windscreen! Otherwise great car, have lugged four people and camping gear through Europe with no problems. Hopefully extended warranty will cover any of the issues highlighted by others.
Submitted: 12/01/2010 22:52:03
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Must say overall I am not impressed with Mistsubishi even though I enjoy driving the car. The boot mechanism started misbehaving about 6 months ago. It wouldn’t open with the key fob and had to be unlocked manually. It went back to the dealership and they spent several hours re-setting it. Before Xmas it happened again. I decided it wasn’t the end of the world and I would use the key to unlock the boot and take it into the dealership again after xmas as I work for myself and was extremely busy completing much needed work. However, 3 days before I was due to go away (with my car) for Xmas, I went shopping in the evening, unlocked my boot and put my goods in and found the boot would not shut. I drove home (thankfully only 10 minutes away!) with the warning ’squeal’ blaring all the way because the boot was not shut. The following morning I rang the dealership where I bought the car saying I was desperately busy with work and asking if they could come and get the car as I couldn’t drive it the half hour to their workshop with the squealing noise blaring. They said that because of the bad weather they were short staffed and had no-one available. Fair enough, I thought. I mentioned that I had purchased the service package with the vehicle and had the MAP (Mitsubishi Assistance Package - like a roadside assistance service) included in that. The dealership said that it might be an idea to ring them instead as they might be able to sort the problem or at least get the car to them. I rang them and they sent someone out who, instead of attempting to fix the problem, slammed and rammed the boot so hard he managed to jam it shut - in fact only one side was properly engaged - the boot lid wasn’t level, sticking up on the other side. He then smugly told me that he had ’secured’ the car and I could drive it to the dealership myself. I did this (losing a valuable job in the process as I had to spend 3 hours at the dealership while they looked at the car) but they were unable to fix the problem. Now I have a car with a mechanical problem as well as an electrical problem as the MAP guy has very expertly broken the boot mechanism. It is not fixed yet and my local dealership tell me that these mechanisms are ’very complicated’ and difficult to fix. There is apparently only one cabrio expert in the country for Mitsubishi and he is down South so they will have to have my car in again for a few days while they consult with him about fixing my car. In the meantime I will have to pay £10 per day for one of their courtesy cars as I cannot be without a vehicle due to work commitments. So, if you are thinking of calling out MAP to ’fix’ your car, don’t bother - it has cost me a great deal in time and money.
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My girlfriend’s boot won’t shut properly and starts beeping very loudly. I have noticed that this is because the catch on one side doesn’t release properly. But the bigger problem now is that the roof won’t fold down! And the passenger side window doesn’t close properly when the door is closed. Does anyone know if these problems are all related, and if so, how to fix them? Not impressed with this car at all! - Jason from County Antrim
Submitted: 05/01/2010 20:45:52
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What a load of C**P. Have owned a Nissan Teranno before the Shogun and being a farmer/forestry worker I need a vehicle that will tackle both jobs. I have realised how useless and c**p the Shogun is when it comes to off road/snow. I would not recommend the shogun to any one needing to work in these situations.
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With the standard road tyres I got stuck on grass. Fitted General Graber AT2 and it goes better on the farm than any other make of 4x4 I have had to tow out. Don’t blame the Shogun, blame the rubbish show room tyres - James from England
I ran a lwb Ford Maverick on 96 plate for 4 and a half years with no problems. I just got a 98 Shogun and spent 500 quid in the last 2 weeks. They’re not a patch on Mavericks, ie Terranos - Robert Peake from Yorkshire
Submitted: 03/01/2010 21:45:33
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I bought it 1 year old. Considering it is a special edition I thought it may have air conditioning or electric mirrors, maybe it has free servicing? Must find out, anybody got any info?
Submitted: 01/01/2010 19:45:09
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I had the same experience as Daine Halliwell above, at about 90,000 miles the timing chain snapped and lunched the whole engine, second hand replacement and fitting Å3,000. Colt didn’t want to know and sent me to the dealer. The dealer had done a valve adjustment 14,000 prior to the failure so also didn’t want to know. I wrote to the CEO of MMUK, (who now own Colt), describing at least 10 cases I had found on the internet all over the world (these are just some of the ones that can be bothered to go on-line), some from Mitsubishi Service engineers included, stating that this is a known fault. MMUK denied that there was a problem, however, admitted some years ago to instructing dealers to check the guide at each service. I asked 2 dealers if they did this, and they confirmed ’no’, and they have never had this instruction, only a letter advising to watch out for it. According to one mechanic on-line, you need to replace the guide yourself at least every 30,000 miles as the plastic gets brittle and breaks off dropping down into the timing gear and chain, breaking the chain. Hard to give a good rating to an otherwise great truck that is let down by engines that fail, through a simple fault, when the UK Corporate Head Office and dealerships are more interested in profit than protecting their brand and lookig after the customer. Caveat Emptor!
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Hi Richard, sorry to hear you have had the same experience as us, not pleasant from a so called luxury car. We did have the engine repaired, all top end done cost 2,000 plus pounds now at 59,000 miles the bottom pulley has broken and I’m looking at maybe another 1,000 pounds to sort out, this is all in the space of less than 6 months. If the car was an old banger I would have scrapped it by now. Another thing, the windscreen wiper linkage snaps like a piece of string in cold weathe, ours has and a friend with the same car has done the same. When you ring Mitsubishi up they usually giggle and say its a common fault that bit of metal will be a hundred and fifty pound. Hopefully these reviews will help people to decide to not spend there money on these cars any more ,what was once a good solid reliable 4x4 brand are now just a former shadow of themselves, the engines are not up to the job and we as the buyers are suffering but Mitsubishi should remember the internet is a powerful communications media and if we can save one person buying thier cars, they have lost out. Little consolation to us who are lumbered with them. I have wrote to Mitsubishi about there scrappage scheme asking what my 03 shogun’s worth i,m still waiting on a reply on the plus side the car made a great fridge for my beer over the xmas in this cold weather. If i didnt laugh I’d cry - Diane Halliwell from Durham
I was just about to purchase a 3.5 Shogun. Luckily I use the internet to do a little research before i purchase. I am sorry for the people that have had engine failures, but, hopefully you will see that your post’s are working. MITSUBISHI TAKE NOTE, NEARLY EVERY HOUSE HAS A COMPUTER, WORD TRAVELS FAST, YOU HAVE JUST LOST A CUSTOMER. BE ASSURED YOU WILL LOSE MANY MORE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER - ANOTHER LOST CUSTOMER from Leicestershire
I have had a Pajero 3.5 Petrol for many years now, was going to buy a 2007 3.2 Equippe manual diesel but reading all the posts on here is making me doubt myself. You’re right, news travels - Alison Bailey from Cheshire
Submitted: 26/12/2009 22:39:06
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A brilliant motor, I’ve been out in the snow and it did everything asked of it and more, can’t fault the big diesel.
Submitted: 23/12/2009 21:54:57
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Replaced our 52 shogun with newer model.Few annoying problems- auto box rather eratic, not very smooth. Biggest problem is off road capability with Dunlop AT/20 tyres-useless. Fitted with standard 18’’ rims and cannot find an off road tyre to fit- BF Goodrich don’t do them so we now have to keep on the road which defeats reason for buying vehicle!!
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General grabber AT2 - Gareth Smith from Norfolk
Hi Mark, please tell me what size general grabber tyres you used and I have been trying to find for a long time with no success, I also have 18" rims-285/55/18. I was told by my local tyre company that they would rub the inner arches. Any help will be good as the Pirelli Scorpions are cr*p and I just don’t like them. Cheers - John Roberts from Devon
Submitted: 16/12/2009 22:06:24
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I bought my car from the Leicester Showroom as an ex-demonstrator with full warranty in April 09. Only had 9931 miles on the clock but had problems right from the start. The dealer has had the car back now 9 times since I identified fault. Apparently the breather tube for the map sensor blocks with carbon and starts to stall the car over time. Mitsubishi have now found that the pipe is in the wrong position on the manifold so have change a lot of pipes and part of the manifold. The MPG is no where near the advertised for the car and they have said, quote: "only one car on the production line is tested as being representative of the model and may therefore produce a better or worse result than another similar vehicle." So if you’re lucky you could get a good car, if not a very bad example but they are not willing to deal with it any further. Other faults also apearing on car, so stear clear of them.
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We have a 3.2 did for work 54 plate shogun. Over time this truck is progressively getting worse with intermittent stalling problems (when pulling away). Then sometimes needs a lot of cranking to start. In morning can start ok though we have changed egr valve and timing chain tensioner - no difference - have seen someone posting about a map sensor that blocks with carbon??? would like to know more about that - Nicholas from England
UPDATE: 3.2 2008 did Elegance. Well it’s now June 2010 27000 miles in and the car is back at a dealership again, 11th time now. Leicester one closed now! Rear brakes still come on when driving and 3rd set of rear pads now fitted. Apparently only 30% worn on the fronts though. Mitsubishi still say there is not a problem with this car. We all need to get together to deal with this companies dismissive behaviour! Still stear clear of them. These pages regarding the faults are getting longer and longer. At least Toyota took ownership of their problems! - Dave Howkins from Leicestershire
Hi, did you get the problem solved with your car stalling and getting progressively worse? I have the same problem with mine - David Fraser from Aberdeenshire
I had a 2008 LWB shogun & had to sell it as I couldn’t cope anymore with the garage visits and the breakdowns - Alison Dickinson from England
Submitted: 11/12/2009 22:33:13
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What a superb vehicle, with the rear seats folded down over 1500 litres of space, plenty of room for my 4 wheel mobility scooter and a weeks shopping. 135 bhp engine smooth,crisp and brisk, but driven carefully almost 40 mpg. Sport suspension and big wheels gives incredible road holding. I have had it a year and so far, touch wood, not even a new bulb.What a car for £3,000.00
Submitted: 30/11/2009 15:39:21
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I bought a 2004 1.9 petrol Vitara in July 2007, as I was very impressed with my daughter’s 1993 JLX model. My Vitara was very reliable, and extremely comfortable, although rather expensive to keep on the road. I averaged 36mpg on motorway driving, travelling at 60mph. I reluctantly part exchanged it a few weeks ago for a more economical vehicle.
Submitted: 16/11/2009 12:12:08
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An exellent looking vehicle I’d previously owned a pajero exceed diesel then found this one going cheap with a private plate so bought it. So far so good.. It came with a brand new mot and no advisory issues and seems ok, however, there is a small water leak somewhere on the windscreen seal above rear view mirror. Not much to complain for what i paid, lets hope the car keeps going.
Submitted: 16/11/2009 12:07:08
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BUY A TOYOTA. I bought my new model L200 2nd hand with 28,000miles on the clock, had serviced it regularly and put a further 20,000 miles or so on it. It drives pretty well, has reasonable fuel economy for such a big vehicle and is the most practical vehicle you could wish to own. It’s a bit heavy on tyres, but again you can expect this with a big 4WD. Unfortunately, 6 months out of warranty the vehicle developed a gearbox fault requiring a complete gearbox re-build. Mitsubishi offered £75 off the required parts for the build (less than 5% of the total cost) as a "goodwill gesture". When asked if they thought it was reasonable for a supposed work vehicle that’s only really had light use as a family car to develop such a major fault after less than 50,000 miles their response was "these things happen". These things might happen, but they won’t happen to me again as I won’t be buying another Mitsubishi any time soon. Unless you’ve got money to burn keeping an unreliable vehicle on the road, buy a Toyota. My father has been running a 10+ year old Landcruiser for years and it’s been faultless.
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I brought a Mitsi L200 Animal out to New Zealand, what a performance because it didn’t have a compliance plate to euro 4 standard. However, I bought a Toyota prado new in 2007, it has been the most expensive piece of trouble I have ever had on the road. A commomn rail engine that needs a new turbo bottom end rebuild at 90,000 and the the injectors that take the piston and bores out at 100,000 is usless, especially at the ridiculous New Zealand prices for labour and parts, in all over $18,000 on repairs. (£9,000 pounds) disgusting!!! They make nothing in NZ yet have the most impossible regulations on earth and the most protectionist policies which inflate all of the transport to ordinary New Zealanders. The Toyota Prado is expensive unreliable and a waste of time. Don’t buy one. Hopefully the Mitsi will be better because it can’t be any worse - Richard Stanley from New Zealand
Submitted: 30/10/2009 22:49:45
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Brilliant all rounder that far surpasses its predecessor, (had X reg l200 4Life before this one). This is an auto box and well worth the cash for urban work. Pulls like a buffalo on steroids!! Did have some problems in getting the ECU to settle down early on but now fine. I can’t recommend this one enough - superb and I’m getting 30mpg to boot!
Submitted: 30/10/2009 22:17:45
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I purchased this vehicle in 2005, in 2009 with 34,000 on the clock, the front discs failed, in that they warped, has any other owner had a similar problem? As expected Mitsubishi deny any problems or recall in relation to this siuation. Their Customer Service Advisor states, and I quote. " I do not feel that we supply or sell defective components. This vehicle has been subject to 1 recall."
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My 2002 Shogun Sport has only 37k miles on the clock yet has been showing signs of warped discs for over the last 15k miles. It has passed several MOTs without comment. I can feel the brakes pulsing throught the pedal but otherwise the brakes seem OK. Eventually, I’ll change the discs, which I’ve discovered are not expensive - Nick Nicholson from London
I have had 2 Shoguns where front disks have warped. 1st one at 26,000 & 2nd at 67,000 miles. Common fault due to overheating. Second change, replacements (not Misubishi) failed within 200 miles. Second replacement OK. Disks are about £70 - Brian Mckay from Kent
Try NBC Brakes (Google it). These are British made and do all specs from standard road to full race spec. They also do extra heavy duty for large 4x4. These brakes are the best in the business at half Mitsubishi prices - John A from Northamptonshire
Submitted: 27/10/2009 09:16:20
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Before I purchased my Sport 8 months ago I read the reviews here, most of which were not very good. Am I glad I didn’t listen? I got an excellent car which looks a lot better than most of the more expensive 4x4s, yes it’s more expensive to run than the 320d BMW I traded in, but with 3 kids it has more than enough room for everyone along with a massive boot. I think it was great value for money, where else would you get a good size family car, only 2 years old with warranty for around 10k? I also agree that, coming after the BMW, its inside is pretty basic but all this means is that there is less to go wrong.
Submitted: 09/10/2009 09:34:40
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I’ve now owned my Challenger for 3 months and I’m still in love with it! I usually change cars every 2 months or so out of boredom and I’ve had so many, but I’m sticking with this one until it goes pop, if it ever does. I’ve had 2 Pajeros in the past amongst others, and the Challenger feels similar to the LWB Pajero but with more of a modern edge. Even for a ten year old car (138,000 miles on the clock), the engine is as tight as a drum, it doesn’t burn any excess (if any at all) oil, it’s smooth, well kitted out, and looks awesome. I don’t know what the guy below is talking about with regard to servicing being a joke, if you service the things when you’re supposed to they’ll do over 250,000 miles! Mine has a full service history and will continue to do so, the service intervals are every 6 months but only cost around £80, and this will give you hundreds of thousands of miles of extra motoring... It’s a no-brainer. I’m not very mechanically minded so the service chaps will let me know IF anything will need to be done to it after changing oil/plugs and having a good look around, but so far there has been nothing major changed on it which is incredible. All in all, it’s as good for long distance touring - REALLY comfy and a great place to be on night drives - as it is for towing, and it is shorter on the overhangs than the Pajeros so it scales the dips better off road without risking bodywork damage, the speakers aren’t too bad, it brakes, corners and goes like a car half its size. The a/c is great, the heater is like an oven, it’s well insulated... I’m really glad I bought it, and I feel kinda sorry for the fella below who obviously has a bitter taste in his mouth but he’s the only person I’ve ever heard of who has had a bad experience with these cars. MPG isn’t bad, just don’t floor it everywhere! I’m averaging about 30 mpg. Can’t fault it. Touch wood ;o)
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I still stand by what I said about servicing Mitsubishis.I work in a garage so get to see what it costs in the way of parts etc. Mitsubishi spares are ESPECIALLY expensive, compared with almost ALL other cars (including BMW and Mercedes). My car is also the only car I know of that requires you to use only the Mitsubishi OBD when diagnosing faults. We are able to clear all engine codes and reset the engine management light on virtually every car, except mine! Still love my car though! Phillip Taylor from Yorkshire
Submitted: 05/10/2009 14:48:24
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Had never heard of it before I bought. Needed a 4X4 because I have to drive in bad weather. The price was right too. As soon as I got it home, it started to snow. I drove it up hills, over lonely country roads and up farm tracks. I passed capsized Freelanders lying in the ditch with their wheels spinning (occupants evacuated). My Mitsubishi just did everything I asked it to do, and never faltered. It drives nicely, handles nicely, is comfortable, easy to get in and out of and affords the driver very good visibility. It isn’t the most beautiful thing you have ever seen. It’s a bit like a taxi, and it is a mite thirsty, and the fuel tank is too small. Notwithstanding these minor irritations, it is the real thing, an epic little 4X4 . If you want a friend in all conditions and weathers, that will not let you down, this is the 4X4 for you.
Submitted: 02/10/2009 09:58:31
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I did my research, looked for a long time before buying and found a not quite 3 year old vehicle with a few months residual warranty in very good condition and 27,000 miles on the clock. I used it for mainly light work, some off road but not much and drove steadily to keep it economical as possible. I didn’t quite reach 49,000 before it developed massive engine failure resulting in needing a new engine. I thought it was just bad luck but I found out there were 3 others just like it at the recon company when mine was sent in.... After contacting Mitsubishi I still haven’t had any reply 3 weeks later. Rubbish engines, rubbish service. Stick to other makes.
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I’ve just got the diagnosis on my 4 year old warrior, which is used as a private car and never goes ’off road’. It needs a new engine. Within 8 hours of learning this i have heard of 3 others in the same situation - Simon Devine from Bedfordshire
What’s the matter with the engine? We have one here with water problems filling the expansion bottle, done everything, can only see the bores been perforated and that should not happen in this day and age - Jim Ledger from Yorkshire
Bought L200 from new on a 53 plate. Regularly serviced and only got 66k on the clock. Just developed a nasty tapping sound in engine which is now getting worse. Heared that L200 engines are prone to breaking up around the 50-70k mark on 03-04 models. Garage doesn’t yet know what it is. I’m waiting for the bottom end to drop out and that will be that. £23k gone in 7.5 years. Gutted. Mitsubushi should own up to their responsibilities on this engine - Simon Kluge from London
Submitted: 30/09/2009 08:46:16
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Bought this 2 litre sports saloon new for £10495, i.e. Fiesta money, 18 months ago. Totally reliable, the whole car feels properly engineered. Fast with the best handling and balance I’ve come across, extremely stable at speed on the motorway. All this is achieved without the hard ride of most sporty cars, like the Ibiza FR I had previously. Big boot, well equipped, 39mpg and a powerful, smooth 2.0 petrol engine that pulls like a train above 4000 revs. Rare, only seen two in a year and a half and one of those was the estate. Impossible to understand why this excellent car at a mega bargain price was not a big seller. Superseded, but now a genuine second hand bargain. Very highly recommended.
Submitted: 30/09/2009 08:45:06
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Test drove all cross country models and there was a battle between A6 Allroad and the Outlander. They bouth were very stable but the Outlander was more practical; 7 seats and a greate overall preformance. The price/value is not comperable between the cars.
Submitted: 22/09/2009 11:52:55
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Hi, I have just purchased an L200 Elegance, 2007 - so not brand new. I have read several reports that many have been stolen, has anyone any idea as to what to fit to help prevent this? I believe it has the manufacturers alarm and immobiliser, but are they good enough.
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If it has the smart nav you can pay a monthly fee for it to double up as a tracker if it gets stolen - Russ from England
Let them take it mate and buy another make as the Mitsi has a bad reputation - Jim Ledger from Yorkshire
Submitted: 24/08/2009 10:18:53
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Bought my Colt in 2008 for 6k, 2nd hand but only done 34 miles, so basically a new car. I like the free servicing, I don’t like very very soft paint; scratches easily is not the word! Also, as I speak, the car is in the dealership for a major oil leak (rear main oil seal). I’ve had no car for 2 days, gearbox out etc... thank god I’m not paying! I’m very disappointed BUT would buy a cabriolet...
Submitted: 14/08/2009 10:20:08
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I’m presently in the midst of purchasing a Warrior... and worried by your comments (Colin Scobbie, Inverness-shire). Are they really that bad?
Submitted: 10/08/2009 08:58:06
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I bought my Animal 3 years old with 30,000 on the clock plus a full service history. Very, very reliable truck, just as good as the Toyota which I had before. It’s not had a easy life, pulling ton loads, trailers, and off roading covered in mud, the paint work and body are like new still. The parts I’ve paid for since 2003 to now apart from normal service items:- one wheel nut because the locking nut broke, clutch, drive shaft bearing , tail gate handle, exhaust. Buy BFGoodrich tyres, half road half off road, they last forever; road tyres wear too fast.
Submitted: 04/08/2009 09:34:42
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Mine is a 2007 CZC that I bought second hand and overall I think it’s a great little car! In seven months I’ve done 6,500 miles. I’m six feet tall and find the front very spacious. Treat it as two seater and you won’t be disappointed. That said, depending on your flexibility or the height of you or your passengers, you might find you can accommodate others for short journeys. We found we could manage one extra passenger. Downsides: The top third of the rear heated window stopped working. Replaced under warranty and now fine. Rear roof seal leaked on passenger side. Replaced under warranty and now fine. Plus sides: Everything else. It’s a hoot to drive, quite nippy, easily able keep up with any traffic, comfortable, spacious mindful of what it is, good over long journeys, does the claimed consumption, and roof down, other than some minor wobble which should really be expected in a car of this type, it can’t be beaten. For it’s price, my view and experience has been very favourable.
Submitted: 20/07/2009 16:05:09
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The Shogun is brilliant on wet & dry roads - it sticks like glue.
Submitted: 02/07/2009 08:58:35
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Spent a long time searching for one at a very good price and found it. Read other reports saying steering a little to light but I don’t find it a problem. Lovely drive, good suspension and economical. Very pleased with the car. Note the roofline is low giving the car a low profile but does limit the headroom inside and the loadspace in the back in comparison to other estate cars. But when it comes to value for money and high reliability not a problem, a real second hand bargain.
Submitted: 22/06/2009 16:02:04
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I bought this shogun for two reasons. One, I always wanted one and Two, the fact that I needed the seating required for the kids. It’s been an interesting purchase over the time I’ve owned it; I have replaced some service items - balance belt etc, but found that I have had some serious welding to do. It’s fabulous off-road, very stable but it feels that on road the gearing could do with an improvement, ie the final gear is rubbish. I would of thought that 60mph at 3,000 rpm is bad, thought it would be better at say 2,000 rpm thereby saving fuel and noise. Overall it’s been good and would buy another one without hesitation.
Submitted: 22/06/2009 12:22:22
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Once you get used to it, this is a comfortable drive but no slouch for a solid, chunky, true 4X4. Interior finish is of excellent quality (leather seats etc) and 2-litre engine performs consistently. Only gripes are that remote locking did not come as standard and it is a little heavy on the petrol. However, it is superb in all weathers with three different 4-wheel drive gears as well the normal two-wheel drive. Family love it - and it is nice to drive something that is different to so many of the run-of-the-mill vehicles on the roads today.
Submitted: 11/06/2009 14:17:14
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Hi, I have a 1996 Shogun it is the best car. A lot better than a s****y old Land Rover or Toyota Hilux, it will go anywhere. It has a 3.0L td and does 0 to 60 in 6.6 secs with no super charger! And it has a chrome bull-bar, so Shogun lovers buy a 1996 shogun!
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6.6s eh? You using an egg-timer to measure that? - Dave from Berkshire
Ho ho John, know any more good ones? 6.6s... The 1996 2.8TD we owned (same car twice, sold it and bought it back) proved very reliable in the 2 years we owned it and the wife loved it. No major problems with it at all. Thinking of buying a later model now around 02\03 reg but slightly put off by reports on here. Hmmm... Bazza from Lancashire
0-60 in 6.6 seconds? You’re having a laugh - Ben from Nottinghamshire
Submitted: 26/05/2009 11:53:22
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After 75,000 miles and nearly four years towing many of those round the country as a horse transporter this has been 99.9% reliable. Only the alarm fob needed replacing after 3 1/2 years. OK, its a bit wallowy compared to the newest model but no sore back (which I am prone to) on 600mile round trips. Very short 1st gear is so good when towing. Off road my lwb is as good as my old swb Terrano (much more comfy though). Mud, rock crawling etc and ground clearance deceptively good though the tow bar, as with any car can catch at approach and departure points on the steeper inclines. 4x4 system works better than anything I have used off road. Only negative, a bit bland but nothing comes close at this price and pulls 3.3 tonnes. Show me another SUV (Pathfinder, most of the new pick ups, Kia etc) that can legally tow a fully laden Ifor Williams 505 or 510 horse trailer (except disco / defender) at just short of 2.9 tonnes and no road cars. Am about to buy my second Shogun in auto this time.
Submitted: 01/05/2009 15:32:30
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My step daughter recently had a major car accident in this car. She came off the road hit three trees one of which split in half, the front of the car virtually came off and the debris which was scattered all over the place was unbelievable. Paramedics could not believe that she got out of the accident with cuts and bruises, and said the chance of surviving a crash of this extent is about 5%. When we arrived at the scene on first look the car looked crushed, but when i opened the door I was surprised to see the cab was completely intact, there was no damage to the footwells even though the front was smashed in. So in short we are so thankful that she was in this car, so even though the car is a write off, the most important thing is it kept her safe, and had she been in another car the outcome could of been very different.
Submitted: 27/04/2009 09:03:57
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Hi, had my Shogun Sport for 7 months and never again will I buy another. It’s thirsty, expensive for parts and servicing is a joke. It drives like a box that’s all I can say apart from if you’re planning to buy one...DON’T.
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Cost, cost, cost. It’s the old "if you have to ask, you can’t afford it". It’s the price you pay for quality versatile motoring and even at that, it’s not that dear! Echoing Kai Cunliffe, England, if you regularly look after it and don’t drive it with a heavy right foot, costs can be kept down. The most expensive thing I found with it is the road tax, but hey, it’s a one-off payment a year, so save up! I think your comments are only relative to the vehicle you purchased as the rest of the comments people are leaving ,bar maybe one or two ,are positive. I had the pleasure of using the 3L V6 model of this truck when I was touring New Zealand, and if I was worried about paying the fuel bill or parts and sevicing costs, I wouldn’t have come home and bought one straight away, but I did and I love it! There may be a few wee chuckles had at your comment, I know I did. Sorry pal - Craig Lawrence from Stirlingshire
Is he driving a Land Rover? The seats are brill and like a box ridiculous services with Mitsubishi dealer. Fuel wise, it’s not as thirsty as most 4wd trucks. I have had two W-reg 3 into country and now a 2003 132.000 miles and have only replaced tyres once and 299.00 on disc pads in 2011 MOTs. Same exhaust odd bulb oil/filter and every winter, a new set of heater plugs. What a truck and I am out lamping twice a week and never got stuck. The toe bar socket hanging down is the worst thing that lets it down, steering circle is like a tank - Andrew Kirkland from Derbyshire
Submitted: 03/04/2009 09:47:20
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I did not have a bad word for this car until it had reached 51,000 miles. The guide the chain runs through has also twisted and snapped as it is made of plastic and it has completely wrecked the engine. I have looked after my vehicle, serviced it regularly and now have a nice looking car with a completely shattered engine due to the fact the tensioner designed to hold the timing chain taught has in fact snapped and dropped into the timing chain. Mitsubishi want no part off looking into this problem, which at 51,000 miles is a bitter pill to swallow. The cost of repair is running beyond £2,000 - you have been warned, this has happened to other people as well.
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The timing chain snapped, repaired it costing over £2000, it’s been a nightmare - Steve X March from England
Submitted: 13/03/2009 09:59:10
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I think the Shogun is the best car made - no problems ever.
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I’m sure Rolls Royce might beg to differ! - Stuart Armstrong from Aberdeenshire
Submitted: 09/02/2009 09:11:54
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Not had a problem with gearbox but rear drive shaft popped from iol seal. It seems there’s stress on the circlip that holds in the seal and drive shaft with the consequence of loosing all the oil from the dif. causing damage to gears in the dif. any body out there had similar. My warranty ran out last year not got bill for repairs yet. Hoping Mitsubishi will see this as manufacturing fault and repair under warranty. Other than this, really love the beast best motor I’ve had.
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Re your diff seal problem; You should do a google search on pajero companion seals...in Australia. Have a look at the Pajero club of victoria forums too . I believe Mitsubishi Motors Aust are replacing this rear diff seal (a change to a better design late 2005) as a warranty fix if it is asked for - John Croker from Australia
I have the same problem with my 2003 Field, what did you have to do to rectify it? As I understand it, I need to have drive and companion shafts replaced, but have also heard about fitting modified circlips, which would certainly be a much cheaper repair. I don’t want to go down the circlip route if it won’t hold up though, especially as I tow a caravan - Patrick Frick from Bedfordshire
Submitted: 05/02/2009 09:18:40
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I’ve had my 2.5td sport for 18 months now and it’s been an excellent vehicle, I’ve used it as a workhorse with the rear seats down to carry everything from doors to plumbing equipment, bags of sand and cement and everything in between without a single problem. I also use it to pull our twin-axle caravan at approx 1850kg with no complaints. If you can live with around 27-29 mpg and the service intervals this is a great family vehicle and a great workhorse.
Submitted: 16/01/2009 14:17:02
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I have just purchased a Shogun Sport Trojan and I am happy with it up to now. I like the space it offers inside and it does make a fantastic family car. The fuel consumption isn’t too good though! The car itself looks smart and was very good value for money. Titanium grey is a fantastic colour to choose as it shows the cars lines well and makes it look more bulky. Plus I haven’t seen many this colour on the road. I would like to see and have more gadgets inside as the ones it has are quite basic and flimsy. I have had a Toyota MR2 before and like how the Japanese build their engines.
Submitted: 15/12/2008 09:59:04
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I have had the same problem of overheating when towing and changed the main radiator which fixed the problem. It seems they are not man enough on the automatics as a friend had the same problem on 1999 2.8 and changing the radiator fixed this as well. I had a 1998 2.8 manual before and never had this problem, have been in touch with Mitsubishi UK about this but they do not want to know.
Submitted: 18/11/2008 14:43:02
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Just swapped my Freelander td4 for this and up to now very happy! Fuel consumption not quite as good but the room more than makes up for it. I have 2 dogs and there is room a plenty for them to nosy about and lie down. Interior trim is basic after the Freelander (had heated seats windscreen etc) but at least all leather seats. summary great dog /family car with great looks (get a black one they look best!)
Submitted: 15/10/2008 13:11:24
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I have owned the czc turbo since June last year and it has been in the garage a number of times for roof rattles, it has got to go in again this month. This has taken the fun out of owning this car. With the roof down I love it - I use it every day driving down the M50 and back to Tewkesbury, I will probably get rid of it when the warranty runs out - not worth keeping it if I have to keep putting it in for repair.
Submitted: 14/10/2008 16:31:02
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Sandra- sorry your having a rough time :( heartbreaking, I’m fortunate that even after the monsoon style rainfalls it remains intact. I have however had to get the other side window motor replaced and if the gear crunch continues that will have to go in (thank god for the 3 year warranty) - Paul the stripes are still on.... will let you know when they are coming off lol however might be a little late though if the paint is weathered around them. Pictures are on http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=12482664&albumID=2362929&imageID=34205207 of my baby.
Submitted: 13/10/2008 09:16:49
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This car is amazing to drive and is great for space. You can fit 4 passengers and 4 dogs in the boot - you couldn’t ask for a better car for the money. It is also very good looking and stylish.
Submitted: 24/09/2008 10:33:31
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What things have gone wrong with the car? Nothing has gone wrong. General comments? If someone really cares for his family comfort and needs to have a reliable car, then the Mitsubishi Grandis is one of them. I have driven a number of car in my life, but found this as one of the best of the lot. The dual AC in this merciless heat in United Arab Emirates, wherein during summers the temperature hits by 50C plus, this MPV has never given up. The kids who are sitting at the back third row seat, are also happy as all of the passengers have one dedicated AC fin above their heads. The climate control AC does its job very well. The second row seats have plenty of leg space, and when someone likes to sit in the third row seats, the second row seats can be adjusted to avoid knee blocking with the third row passengers. The automatic transmission shifts like silk, and if the driver is in a sporty mood, can have the gear lever shifted to the manual mode and can have all his desires fulfilled. We should remember it’s not a sports car, but a family carrier MPV. The power steering is good and requires no effort at all in different driving conditions. The adjustable steering is another standard good feature in Grandis, which can be adjusted with the driver height, as the driver’s seat can also go up and down with the help of a lever attached to the seat. The dash lights are very bright, and anyone who needs to adjust the dash light during night time can adjust it according to their taste. The brakes are fantastic, and the ABS works very fine whenever the need arises. The fuel consumption is excellent. It is giving me 24 miles in one gallon. (4 liters in a gallon) However the fuel in UAE is not a big issue at all, as it is quite cheap as compared to the rest of the world. To conclude, this MPV is so practical that after driving this, it will be very difficult to stick around with some other brand or make of car of its category. Hope this review will be beneficial for the people who are in the process of buying an MPV for their family. Regards. Qamar Note: My country UAE, was not mentioned in your list..
Submitted: 17/09/2008 09:26:31
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Love the look and drive of the car, but I’m so disappointed that after 3 attempts to fix the leaking windows I’m still having problems. Its been in the shop for a total of 3 weeks now and the problem keeps recurring. This has added a real damper (pardon the pun!) to what fundamentally is a great motor. Unfortunately, I think its something I’ll have to live with as no-one seems to be able to offer a solution :-(
Submitted: 13/08/2008 11:18:55
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Best road car I’ve ever driven, its fast, responds great, gives a great drive, excellent all round, looks great, and handles excellent, sticking to the road, perfect for anyone to loves sports cars, without the need to enter the track, as to bet this car has to be something very special as it will run rings around you, loved it, only bad downfall was the consumption of petrol - getting around 10miles to a gallon isn’t really a family car... and you have to be rich to own one, as it consumes a lot of petrol, but great fun car to drive.
Submitted: 05/08/2008 11:52:18
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Lauren, can I watch while you get your stripes off! - mine is also blue but without the stripes. There are too many happy Barrows’ on this page! I would like to add from my earlier review that my CZC has further surprised me - in that it’s performance and mpg can improve to nearly 40 if you take your foot off the accelerator a little. Of course it is difficult to do this as the handling and the sports car driving experience is fantastic in the winding country lanes! Also - have you noticed how wet this year has been? No leaks in my cabrio at all. And the boot takes my golf clubs and trolley comfortably. Best car I have ever owned so far - even if I do look retarded in a car park, crunching into reverse and playing with my windows!!
Submitted: 01/08/2008 15:10:16
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Well after having my window motors replaced they work fine! The gear crunching in reverse is apparently because i don’t wait 3 seconds when selecting the gear! I don’t like this, makes me look retarded on a car park! Glad my report made you smile! I didn’t smile when I have discovered in the next town a twin, same midnight blue with silver racing stripes in the turbo!! Talk about gutted. Think my stripes will be coming off!
Submitted: 30/07/2008 08:23:19
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I drive many different types of car for a living, but it is always a relief to get in my Shogun at the end of a long day. Never has a car seat and general driving position felt so right - and I truly mean this. It IS slow (well with only 114 bhp to pull 2 tonnes it was never going to be fast was it?), nevertheless I know that whatever the weather I WILL get home - its grip with ’proper’ tyres is amazing. True, it is very truck-like, but that is perhaps because it unashamedly IS a truck (with all the tough mechanicals that go into making one). I always get 30mpg if I’m careful to limit myself to a maximum 3000rpm, this gives me reasonable performance. You soon get used to it’s mammoth size and parking isn’t too bad. Of course, being a Mitsubishi it is reliable, but I do think what they expect you to pay for servicing it is a joke. Over all, it ’does what it says on the tin’ but if ever a car needed a six-speed gearbox this is it. I am forever going for the extra gear it so desperately needs! A good honest vehicle but definitely no dragster.
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I agree it could do with a 6th gear or an overdrive option. I had my Shogun Sport (53 plate) for 3 yrs, the only thing that went wrong was the alternator and the main crank pulley (rubber disintegrated) but it had done 178k by the time they went - Shaun Smith from Somerset
Submitted: 22/07/2008 08:30:12
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I’ve had Shoguns since 1994 (this is my 4th) and never a problem with towing until this one that we’ve had from new. It overheats after about 60 miles and was recalled in 2006 for overheating. I had the recall work done but it still overheats at about 90 miles. After sales is rubbish as no dealer wants to know. Now going to chop it in for a Toyota Invincible - what a shame as my wife and I love the Shoguns but I think its bad design in the new engine. If any one knows the answer I would be grateful.
Submitted: 16/07/2008 10:38:46
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Great car, spacious and well equipped for the cash BUT HORRENDOUS DEPRECIATION. Offered £3,700 as a trade in on a two and a half year old car that cost £11,000 new. Cracking used deal though!
Submitted: 17/06/2008 10:23:59
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Great Little run around, now fuel is expensive gives a good return and happy to use instead of the larger 4 x 4 , easy to park and great in the City or Town - also with being automatic nice to just sit in jams and then just ease off.
Submitted: 12/06/2008 14:27:39
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The review by Lauren Barrow made me smile - I have loved my CZC since January and exactly the same comments apply to my experience as in Lauren’s - ’It handles great... love it when the turbo kicks in, first gear is a little sluggish unless you drive it hard. I do have 2 complaints though, it doesn’t like going into reverse for some reason, crunches for no reason and the windows don’t always come up on command takes a few attempts’. I would add that it does not just ’handle great’ - it feels like a sports car and yet I am still getting over 30 to the gallon. I would also add that I found the dealer - Mitsubishi Motors in Cheltenham, to be appallingly bad. Use independent’s for your servicing.
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Glad it’s just not me having problems with the dealerships. They really are not that good. I even took out an extra year on the warranty due to the ongoing problems I have with windows jumping back down, but that’s the only problem I have had. It’s like any car dealership, when they have had your money they are not bothered. I was told because the car was convertible, it was bound to have problems. Well if they design something, it should at least work. Also Mitsubishi don’t tell you that you have to pay for someone to look at the car if there is problem after three years and even if you took the extended warranty out again. The car is good but been let down by poor after service and a succession of rubbish dealers - Alan Roberts from London
Submitted: 29/05/2008 15:11:40
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I LOVE my car. So many comments and everyone of them makes me smile! It handles great... love it when the turbo kicks in, first gear is a little sluggish unless you drive it hard. I do have 2 complaints though, it doesn’t like going into reverse for some reason, crunches for no reason and the windows don’t always come up on command takes a few attempts. I love the shape, the class, the heated seats and being the only one I’ve seen in the month of owning it... I do recommend this car!
Submitted: 27/05/2008 14:15:28
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Mitsubishi really have come a long way in recent years and I’m glad I took the plunge and went for the Grandis, which we’ve had now for 18 months. It’s a really well equipped MPV that drives superbly, in fact I’m still impressed now with the way it handles and rides. Stylish and spacious as well with good safety. Excellent car.
Submitted: 24/04/2008 11:31:34
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Wonderful little car that is so much fun to drive. A really good looking car and a littl more exciting than the C1, which you seem to see everywhere these days. Excellent low emissions mean road tax is very cheap as are running costs. A little more expensive than other cars in it’s class but I think it’s worth it.
Submitted: 24/04/2008 09:26:07
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Great little car. Really grips and you can steer it on a sixpence (as my dad would say). Feels solid and you can tell it’s really well made. Good fuel consumption and low depreciation also major factors in me choosing this car. It’s not the cheapest car in it’s class but I do think you get value for money.
Submitted: 15/03/2008 15:05:43
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I have only had my cabriolet for 3 weeks and it has been in the service department being fixed more than it has been on the road, First week the air conditioner ran out of gas and had to be re gassed. Second week the roof got stuck and would not go up. It has now been in the service department for a week and they still do not know how to fix it. I am very disappointed as I traded in a Honda Jazz that I never had a problem with.
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I am an Australian and own a Colt Cabriolet. I have had nothing but problems with the car. The most common is water leaks from the roof; it’s kind of like a fountain. The roof opens but does not close. Everytime I go over the slightest bump I hear a distinct beeeeeeeep sound that really give you a jolt - Eddie from Aberdeenshire
I have had my car for 2 years and have 47000km and I need a whole new break system and the parts for our cars are so expensive my breaks are going to cost me $1300 with new roders. My windows don’t work well, my car has stopped suddenly in peak hour traffic; ended up getting a new fuel system!!!!! 5 weeks later my key won’t work!!!! - Isabel Pleemenul from Australia
Submitted: 28/02/2008 10:22:42
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I had the same problem with our Shogun Field, also a 05 and was told the same thing. I also had intermittent problem with oil warning light coming on and told ’no known problem like this’ and then got a recall notice to attend to problem!! I agree that after sales care is not that brilliant.
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Had my Shogun for 3 months when I went to get filters of Mitsubishi and was told about this recall... The oil level switch in the sump is too high and needs more oil to keep it out so they put in a new dip stick with the max mark higher up the stick... Stephen from Northern Ireland
Submitted: 19/02/2008 12:40:20
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I bought my Carisma second hand about three years ago, and to its credit it is still going strong. There are a few negatives that should be mentioned: No rear windscreen wiper so often rear visibility is poor. The car rides very low on the road so that going over speed bumps I am often reduced to about 5 miles an hour to go over them (probably the point lol!) and other cars get irritated that I have slowed so much, but any faster and I bang the exhaust on the bump. The car itself has a fair amount of welly and accelerates really well up hills, often overtaking newer and more flashy cars. Handling is less impressive however as it often pulls a tad one way or the other. All in all a good second hand car with some nice features - the electric wing mirrors, but if you had more money I don’t think you would opt for it!
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The running low on your car can be easily corrected, replace rear springs. I’ve just done mine after threatening to do it for 3 years and now it’s riding high. It was not that expensive - if you can do it yourself or you know someone who can do it. I paid 32 pounds for the springs - money well spent and the difference to the drive is great - Mike Roberts from Lancashire
Submitted: 28/01/2008 13:09:11
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Firstly; the car shown above is not a Shogun Pinin the report by Mr P Harrison states it is a v6 2007 the pinin did not have a v6 engine and was not produced after 2006. i own a 2005 pinin warrior and as my wife and myself are both disabled we don’t have to bend down to get into the car we just slide in its a little bit longer than a Nissan Micra so parking is a piece of cake 30 mpg is not bad for a petrol 4x4 18 inch tyres can be expensive but how often do you buy tyres its fully kitted a frame side steps leather seats etc cannot fault it we love it.
Submitted: 28/01/2008 11:02:34
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I bought this to replace a Chrysler Grand Voyager as the family wagon (two adults, three grown kids, two dogs and family holidays around Europe with roofbox/trailer and five full-sized bikes!) - not an easy job. The Shogun had a couple of teething problems which were resolved by adequate dealer. The equipment is good and durable, it’s quiet, comfortable, well equipped and remarkably economical when loaded on long trips (less so if you use it for Tesco run...) and a lot more stable and safer than a Grand Voyager! Mitsubishi Assist program (�15/yr for European recovery etc) is fantastic value and service was amazing only time I used it. I have recommended Shogun to one friend and my father so far - so I must like it.
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..update on last report. After another two years of ownership - mileage creeping close to 35k (yes ... that low!) Shogun is proving lot less robust than it originally appeared. Every six months I need to visit garage to get the drive belts tightened - screeching away every time it gets damp. Fan squeaks away on low setting (dashboard out job?) and the external bodykit (wheelarches and bottom of door) started peeling off in sunshine in France! All held on with just double-sided sticky tape (a £36k car!). Starting to get concerned as I’m reaching end of warranty and the number of reports of timing chain failure started me thinking about going back to Jeep/Chrysler - sad state of affairs when a US built car is MORE reliable than Japanese - Andrew Lowrie from Berkshire
Submitted: 25/01/2008 14:52:11
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I recently bought a Mitsubishi CZC and i must say that I find it a wonderful car! It is very fun to drive, not only in the cabriolet version, but in the coupe version as well! It is full of character, and draws people attention everywhere it goes.
Submitted: 14/01/2008 11:32:11
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Lured by a temptingly low secondhand price and the promise of excellent reliability, I am delighted by what I’ve bought. Very smooth 1.6 engine gives me 40+ mpg regardless (it never goes near built up areas though) all the kit I need (PAS, CD and Aircon), and nothing I don’t. Comfortable ride and safe handling, though steering is a bit light. Boot space is mediocre for the class, but at least has loads of cubby space. Viewed as a secondhand bargain, there is little else to compare at the price.
Submitted: 07/12/2007 09:19:27
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Functional and flexible car. Does exactly what it says on the tin.
Submitted: 27/11/2007 09:18:36
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Brilliant car, tough enough for off roading, small and nimble enough for city driving.
Submitted: 27/11/2007 09:15:00
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Not the best looking 4x4 but don’t let that put you off. A gutsy little number, it prefers off road but doesn’t mind on road too. You can bag one of these for a bargain and they are definately worth the money.
Submitted: 26/11/2007 20:53:26
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A very well kitted out car that comes with sports suspension and leather interior as standard, which considering what you pay is amazing value for money. But, running costs are not cheap and in hindsight I would have gone for the more fuel effecient 1.6 and forgone a few of the luxuries.
Submitted: 26/11/2007 16:01:42
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What a lovely car. I’ve only had mine for a couple of months but it’s a breath of fresh air. I have 3 children ages 7, 9 and 13 and it gives them plenty of space so less to squabble about. Great driving position too so very comfortable to drive over long distances. Everything so far seems spot on. Very enjoyable to drive.
Submitted: 21/11/2007 14:29:12
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Sharp handling and good grip together with excellent safety features sold this car to me. I decided to go for the Elegance as you get a lot more for your money than the entry level models, which seemed a little stingy on kit. A very good 4x4 for the money and not overly expensive to run for it’s size. Excellent resale value too has to be a consideration.
Submitted: 20/11/2007 15:52:47
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Solid, extremely reliable and very cost effective to run. If you need something with a decent boot and a car that will run and run with some comfort then it’s a good option. Not the most exciting car to drive but it does it’s job well.
Submitted: 19/11/2007 14:45:37
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Great car but I have had a problem with autobox select drive in morning. The stick feels spongey and very reluctent to pull away when it does fine for the rest of the day after warm up. Been in local Mitsibushi dealer for 2 days and they don’t have a clue. Any help please email - scottgibson76[at]blueyonder[dot]co[dot]uk - I’m losing hope.
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I have the same problem, does anyone know the reason for this? Mail me - daveeasltd[at]aol[dot]com thanks - Dave Lowe from Lancashire
Submitted: 19/11/2007 10:17:49
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Most surprising element was the fuel economy of the 3.2 diesel engine. I expected it to do far less per litre. On road this is avery smooth ride, easily manouverable despite its apparant size. In ice/snow the 4 wheel drive performs very well and control is easily kept. Off road in low and very low drive this vehicle needs off road tyres. On general off road, grass damp surfaces it performs well. Once the mud starts to depen it gets more difficult without the all terain tyres. With them it drives, even when i sunk it to the axles.... not on purpose of course. The all leather interior was comfortable and the driving controls are well placed and easy to reach and use.
Submitted: 13/11/2007 16:23:01
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Not the cheapest small car but great to look at, fantastic interior space for a small car. A good alternative to the C1 or the Ka. Cheap for road tax as it is in Band B. Nice drive, LOVE IT!
Submitted: 31/10/2007 16:29:33
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The 2006 L200 is a massive improvement on the old model. Much better fuel economy, better diving experience including a significantly improved turning circle which on the old model was awful. The driving experience is far more like a car than a van, particularly now that the vehicle has sat nav & rear parking sensors. Also, unlike the old model, you can drive the new one in permanent 4 wheel drive which is very useful in the wet.
Submitted: 31/10/2007 12:39:30
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This is a brilliant little car, perfect for city living. You can park on a sixpence in this and it seats 4 people very comfortably. The boot is a little tight but there are loads of other storage cubbyholes dotted around to make up for it. It comes fully kitted out with climate control, electric windows, central locking and a rather good CD player. Very good value for money and literally sips fuel.
Submitted: 27/10/2007 21:30:49
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Gorgeous little carbriolet with bags of personality and enough zip to keep a smile on your face. Boot is huge when the roof is up and the cabin is very comfortable for the driver. Handles beautifully and turns heads where ever it goes. The visibility on this car takes some getting used to because of the position of the windscreen pillars, which is the only bad mark against this car.
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I have a cabriolet from new and had no trouble with it. It has been great to drive and people always comment on how nice it looks - Pat Davies from Swansea
Submitted: 27/10/2007 14:33:10
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This car offers a lot of car for the money, but does not offer the same level of space, quality or image as more expensive rivals. Very good car though for only a snip over £20,000 new.
Submitted: 26/10/2007 15:13:57
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Excellent economy. good comfort with a/c, e.s.r, seat adjustment. Very practical with the seat options, fold tilt slid remove. Very good dealer support.
Submitted: 12/10/2007 09:29:01
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I am extremely pleased with my car and my wife enjoys taking journeys in it as well. It is very easy to drive and comfortable both for the driver and passenger. Very reasonably priced.
Submitted: 01/10/2007 15:58:32
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Own Shogun Field, have problem with gearbox locking intermittently. Told by local dealer and Colt cars that if fault not seen by garage than no further investigation will be undertaken until vehicle breaks down. Car is 05 and still under warranty. Have been very pleased with Shogun up to now but would not consider buying another one due to after sales service.
Submitted: 24/08/2007 16:58:46
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I test drove this and the Nissan Navara fully expecting to be giving my business yet again to Nissan but this car just blew me away. Just looking at it you know it�s going to be exciting to drive and it really does not disappoint. For a pick up I defy you to find anything as capable and economical that looks this good. Sorry Nissan but you�ll have to go a long way to win me back.
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Hi. I am about to collect the same model as yours for towing my caravan. Can you tell me if you have had any troubles with yours, roughly how much MPG to expect. Mine will be a March 20007 model, and my 1st 4x4. Also, mine has a roller boot cover, but I am considering a hardtop, although I don’t realy need one as yet, just thinking of winter. Your view would be appreciated - Charles Coleman from Lincolnshire
Have you had any water problems because we have one here filling the expansion vessel and Mitsubishi tell us they’ve had problems with the bores perforating. We’ve done all the normal things like skimming the head and pressure testing it, new radiater thermostat looks like next move is another engine but this one has about 75 k on the clock and is in mint cond. Peed off - Jim Ledger from Yorkshire
Submitted: 14/08/2007 10:14:13
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