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This is a follow up to my earlier report: Since August last year (2011) our Scudo has had to have the self-levelling rear suspension replaced together with a drop link and rear brake caliper costing £1,551. Then the power steering failed and while the van was in the garage they noted more engine oil leaks, a clutch that needed replacing and play on the flywheel, which cost £2,537! Do Fiat care? Not one jot! I wrote to the MD Andrew Hunberstone who apparently read my letters, but was too busy to reply leaving it to one of his team who couldn’t or wouldn’t explain why the self levelling rear suspension is a £690 option, but the repair of which costs over £1,000. The van should still be an excellent vehicle but Fiat are a rubbish company.
Submitted: 08/02/2012 09:47:15 | ID: 8968
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Poor fuel consumption, very cheap car interiors (they are same kind of Fiat Panda).
Submitted: 02/02/2012 08:41:16 | ID: 8947
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The Fiat engine is in the Swift Kon Tiki 649. It is slow, lacks power and has fuel economy to match a V8 Landrover. Pants! A total mis-match conversion.
Submitted: 28/01/2012 20:58:09 | ID: 8924
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Two complaints: The massive elephant mirrors are not necessary and just make the car wider, which is not so good in country lanes. I also get a draught on my right leg, even when all the vents are shut off it still gets in from either the foot vent or the door. The dealer says that is normal! Does anyone else get a draught? Otherwise great.
Submitted: 28/01/2012 12:38:00 | ID: 8915
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What a great little car. Had it for three years now with no mechanical problems whatsoever. I paid extra for this model with the diesel engine but when I am averaging 67mpg then it has justified the extra cost. We regularly use this as our family car as it will happily take all four of us to the supermarket and take a boot full of groceries without a problem. It is great fun to drive, especially with the extra torque but the body roll means it does not like being thrown into corners. It is very cheap to run and to service and the build quality both inside and out is fine. I test drove a number of vehicles before choosing the Panda. It is considerably better than the C1/Aygo/107 for example. Fiat dealer gave us a good deal as well. I would recommend a Panda to anyone who wants a small but practical car that is cheap to buy and own.
Submitted: 26/01/2012 08:30:12 | ID: 8907
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A great used buy. Economical and only 30 quid a year to tax. It’s well screwed together with no squeaks or rattles. The car handles well with ample grip, but for some reason most reviews seem convinced that because the Bravo is Italian it should handle like a Ferrari. It’s a good stylish and economical car that goes as well as it looks. 21k service intervals make it painless to own. Would I buy another One? Yes.
Submitted: 23/01/2012 10:22:22 | ID: 8887
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Had the car for two years but not happy with it. Two recalls and a new battery. Engine feels under powered. I would not have another one.
Submitted: 23/01/2012 09:24:03 | ID: 8881
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Bought new (pre-registered) May 2007 for use as bakery delivery van doing mainly local deliveries. Apart from a month in the dealers to replace the EGR valve, (under warranty) this van has only cost me consumables and service costs. The heat shield over the exhaust manifold was also replaced under warranty. It is coming up to 5 years old now with 49000 on the clock, but I’m now looking to replace it as I know from here on it will probably start costing. It sounds as though I have been lucky from the reviews I have read, but for a basic van there is nothing to touch the Scudo. New pre-registered ones are being advertised for £9999 now, that’s about 2.5K less than I paid for mine 5 years ago!! I’ve just been to test drive a Merc Vito, but I wasn’t overly impressed and I don’t know if I could cope with having 4 pedals under my feet, (one is the parking brake, released with a handle under the dash!!) and at 18K plus VAT it’s too pricey.
Submitted: 17/01/2012 10:34:37 | ID: 8860
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I currently have a Fiat Scudo. I have been amazed at how well the van drives. The handling is excellent and it’s so quick. I have always been a fan of the commercial vans from Fiat but especially the Scudo Van as fuel efficiency is great and let’s be honest it looks fantastic.
Submitted: 16/01/2012 10:36:06 | ID: 8858
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I currently have a Fiat Ducato 3.0 Litre Conversion. I must say since I bought it in Nov, it’s been so far so good. The handling is excellent and it drives brilliantly. I forget I am in a Fiat Ducato sometimes. The fuel efficiency is okay and it looks fantastic.
Submitted: 16/01/2012 10:33:58 | ID: 8857
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I’ve had this car for five years and I have very mixed feeling about it. Although mechanically engine wise, it has stood the test of time, its age and Italian-build quality is starting to show through. I get ice on the inside of the windscreen in the winter and major condensation in the on damp/wet days. The rear lights have filled with water during heavy rain falls and the electrics have frozen intermittently. I had to put the electric windows back in the frame after they stuck and every now and again when running lights blow. The chassis set up is bad and it suffers from massive under steer in wet weather, but when it’s dry, it is quite a lot of fun to drive. The engine is sweet and revs well when warmed up and can return 50mpg on a run. I bought my car brand new, and regret making that decision and although it has its moments, when I drive it, I would NEVER buy another Fiat again.
Submitted: 16/01/2012 08:46:03 | ID: 8848
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We had the old model from new when it first came out and then had a second Multi when the first was eight years old. It’s a brilliant car in lots of ways. It’s comfortable, flexible, and best of all can take all six of us and our luggage when we go on holiday, unlike cars like the Zafira, which do people or luggage, but not really both. But I have to say that apart from its cute value and its practical design it’s a bit of a rubbish car. The sides of the back seats break as the seat belts get trapped between the seat and the door. Just about all Multis are broken in the same place! If something breaks it can be expensive and difficult to get parts. Our current car lacks power in the cold and the Fiat garage were unable to find the fault, in spite of charging us a fortune. It’s not very economical compared to similar cars and we are reluctantly changing ours for a boring, but hopefully less expensive car. One of its best features is that it comes in nice colours unlike most big cars that come in a hundred different greys and one blue or red if you’re lucky!
Submitted: 13/01/2012 09:50:13 | ID: 8840
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I rented one in Canada and I loved it! It’s good in the city as well on the freeway. Has enough power, good interior, awesome interior and an excellent styling. Will definitely buy one.
Submitted: 11/01/2012 08:24:08 | ID: 8836
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Bought the car with 8000 miles in Wales 3 years ago. Warranty problems sorted out very efficently by the Fiat garage in Tipperary (Ryan Motor Power).The only thing is, it does tend to wear out the rear tyres a bit prematurely. Since my last 2 multipla cars, which were great cars, the scudo feels very steady and safe with either 2 or 8 passangers on board. I have to say I would buy another one. Economy is good and 40000 miles on it’s still on the same front brake pads.Tyres on the rear last about 12000 miles.
Submitted: 03/01/2012 07:49:40 | ID: 8793
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I bought this van new this year and so far I’ve had the the following problems, bearing in mind the van has only done 8000 miles: Clutch judder, clutch slips in 2nd and third gear, door warning lights stay on, side door keeps shutting in open position and floor mats worn through. Please save yourself and don’t ever buy one, they really are rubbish!!
Submitted: 02/01/2012 20:25:38 | ID: 8787
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I have a Fiat Punto 2006 with 46000 miles. I have had it serviced by a local garage from new and keep it in a garage over night. My first problem was the exhaust tail pipe cracked and was replaced at 29000 miles, then one of the gear selector cables snapped at 34000, both were replaced at a total cost of £260. The cable that moves the front pasenger seat forward to gain access to the rear seats (2 door model) snapped at 39000 miles. I have left this problem for now. At 40000 miles the seat belt would not reel in (left that as well for now). At 46000 miles the power stearing has packed up; the 5 minute diagnostic check cost me £80. The worst news was that I require a full replacement steering column at a cost of £900 inc fitting and vat. This is a common fault so I will be lucky to find a good one second-hand. What is worse Fiat know about this fault and have never recalled them. I will never buy another Fiat as long as I live.
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We have a 1998 Fiat Punto SX and the power steering has packed up at about 48,000 miles. Our mechanic said he will replace the whole steering column for £350 for a used one, but as the car is old, I think this will be ok. I think the price you have been quoted of £900 may be a bit excessive. It might be a good idea to get a few quotes and call parts suppliers yourself. Our cam belt also needs replacing now, as recommended and he will replace that for £150. I think there is life in the old dog yet though! - Monique Punto from Lancashire
Submitted: 02/01/2012 20:05:28 | ID: 8781
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The best van I have ever owned. I’m a builder and the van often tows my twin axel trailer with a mini digger. The only fault I have had since I bought it new was the rear brakes binding. This van has given us 50 thousand of the best miles we have ever travelled.
Submitted: 02/01/2012 19:52:55 | ID: 8779
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Hi, Back again with another update!! Had the EGR valve replaced in September this year (2011) now I’m having to do it AGAIN!! I don’t know how much more I can take of this damn van?! Also this year I’ve had to have the airflow sensor cleaned due to a build up. The back doors are getting worse, and my side door’s running gear decided to fall apart! This has cost me £45 from a Fiat dealer (fitted myself). My advice regarding side door rollers is grease them now or pay for it later (all three rust on the bearings). How many of you knew it’s a Ford engine in your Fiat? Happy driving.
Submitted: 22/12/2011 09:48:53 | ID: 8743
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I loved this car, sadly it has just been written off. For the money it looks stunning and much more expensive than it is. Mine had a very nice interior, which again looks more expensive than it is. The car drove beautifully for the year I had it. I previously had a Saxo which stuttered and rattled, so the Grande Punto was a dream. Never a noise from the engine, it’s so silent you think you have stalled, and if you do stall, you think you’re still running. The car is attractive from every angle and looks amazing after a full valet. The seats are comfy, the dash is well lit at night, the sound system is great (I’m very picky being a musician) with lots of base and depth when playing CDs. Ok, so for the down sides: My back doors never opened from the outside (a well known problem of the 2006 model but very easy to fix), the power steering could randomly fail (but would come back on after restarting engine) and the heater grill was coming away from the dash due to the dash looking like it had sank over time. The doors could have easily been fixed for around £200 at a Fiat dealership by a simple change of handles. When going over speed bumps and sometimes turning slowly there would sometimes be creaks, which sounded like the frame of the car squeaking. Also, this car is very sluggish to start feeling heavy and slow, but once you are going there is no issue (you can’t go faster than the speed limit anyway!) There was nothing that was ever a major problem because the ride was so quiet and smooth. It was also a dream on the motorway, sitting pretty at any speed. I miss this car greatly, and I am currently looking to buy the exact same one, but on a 2007 plate as by this time Fiat had sorted the sticking door problems. I would highly recommend this car for anyone who wants a stylish, trendy, comfortable, smooth and quiet ride.
Submitted: 09/12/2011 11:21:33 | ID: 8690
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Bought my Ulysse in 2005 with 56 miles on the clock and everything was good for9 months then the"antipollution" light came on. The main dealer was contacted more times than I care to remember. It took 18 months (and an unnecessary change of Turbo) before pleas to Fiat brought their engineer down who fixed the problem in a morning. For 3 Years I had no problems then the rear wash stopped working one winter and the central locking packed up. I called out a motor electrician who told me main unit would need replacing. However I found out on the Fiat website that the rear wipe pipe in the rear of the car (drivers side-pull out light inspection plastic) would freeze and come apart; reconnected the pipe and the disconnect battery for short time and it was all back working. I have just taken the car to main dealer because fumes are coming in to the car and was told the pipe to EGR valve has corroded and is leaking, which cost me £88 for that piece of info and it will take 5 hours labour to fix at a cost £500-£600. I’m now trying to find out how to do it myself!
Submitted: 21/11/2011 10:54:37 | ID: 8607
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I’m not a car expert or fanatic by any means. I drive only to get from A to B and I’m interested only in safe economical driving everywhere - cities, villages, countryside, everywhere short of severe off-road conditions (which I have never tried so I can’t say it would not cope even there). I have driven my Sedici over 55,000 km, of which about 99.8% have been in 2-wheel drive, but the two optional levels of 4-wheel drive have been absolutely essential in the other 0.2%, e.g. winter 2010 in Ireland and a serious slope upto a holiday cottage at all times. I have been driving for over 65 years, everything from a Chevrolet car, a small Ford lorry, a bread delivery van, a Renault 4, a Volvo, a Fiat Punto, a Suzuki 4wd; some second hand, most new - including the Sedici TD, bought in 2007. I do not recall a more satisfying vehicle than the Sedici; I have had no mechanical or other trouble, its powerful acceleration gets me out of any potential trouble spot. On the very rare occasions when I meet another Sedici driver, they"re always as enthusiastic about it. It seems to me to be the most overlooked all-purpose car on the road. It’s also possibly the most poorly marketed; I wrote to Fiat Ireland a few years ago pointing out that their sales stuff still described it as a permanent 4-wheel drive and a year later the description remained unchanged. The rarity gives the Sedici a certain eminence, of course..
Submitted: 21/11/2011 09:45:31 | ID: 8594
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Our second Fiat - we’ve bought two more since. Like ALL manufactures you can get a ’duffer’ and reading some of the other reviews there are obviously some disappointed ex owners. That said this is a very underrated car, which is excellent value. The key is to get a good one or ensuring it becomes/stays a good one is to have it repaired and serviced properly. I’ve had my Stilo for nearly 5 years and love it more than the two brilliant Focus’ it replaced. My only faults have been 2 bulbs and a broken front spring. It has great looks, bags of character and has a superior build quality than anything French. Forza Fiat!
Submitted: 19/11/2011 14:33:43 | ID: 8585
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A good sized van, even the swb puts the Transit to shame. The drive is good and the 2.2 td works well with loads of pull, even with a heavy load. This is my second Ducato and if I had listened to all the negitive reviews I saw on line I would have got something else. Good vans at a good price.
Submitted: 14/11/2011 18:01:31 | ID: 8564
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All I can say about these vans is they are just a piece of junk. I bought two chassis cabs to convert them into car transporter. I hadn’t even used them for couple of months when timing chain jumped on both in, with just a weeks interval between each other. They also had damage to the pistons, valves, cam and crank as well. Fiat gave an estimate of 8k to repair one of them! My honest advice for you guys is just stay away from these rubbish vans.
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Hi, only wished I had read this before I bought one of these vans. Since my last comments about my van, Fiat have refused to replace floor mats when my van is only nine months old with under 8,000 miles, they say wear and tear! My suspension squeaks like I have 100 mice in the back and now I have knocking coming from the front. In dealers been without van for a week now. What have I done! Anyone else had these problems? - Mark Sainsbury from Hampshire
Submitted: 06/11/2011 20:44:01 | ID: 8514
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I’ve had this car 4 months. It’s pretty good, however, it had to go back in the first week of having it because of a split breather hose. The car sometimes doesn’t start properly when it’s colder and it drinks oil for a pastime; at least 1/2 litre for every thousand miles! The 1.2 engine does lack power, but I did previously have a 1.4 Merc so that says it all really. This is the 3rd Fiat in the family and I would probably buy one again.
Submitted: 31/10/2011 13:18:05 | ID: 8492
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It drinks like a fish as it is not very good on fuel. If the sliding doors are slammed open too hard they come off the bottom runners. Poor build quality. LDV Maxus’ are better.
Submitted: 24/10/2011 12:39:24 | ID: 8477
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I have a Y reg Scudo, which I paid £1800 pounds for a year ago. It’s just the best van and does an average 40 mpg. If you’re going to get one make sure its an old one, my mate has a new one for work and let’s just say it’s cost a few quid in repairs and his is only a year old.
Submitted: 19/10/2011 10:25:09 | ID: 8454
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I’ve had two Scudo vans, R Reg and 04 Reg, both served excellently for a total 196000mls. The older 1.9td was best (simple efficient van), but I was still pleased with the newer 109bhp JTD, which was smooth, powerful, comfortable, economical, well built and totally reliable. These vans seem to enjoy being driven hard over long periods, with no top up of oil or water between services. I always move off in 1st gear at tickover revs, (163000 mls on one clutch). Buy one, you won’t be sorry.
Submitted: 17/10/2011 10:19:42 | ID: 8432
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I have had my 500C for two years and it has been a constant joy. I have driven it around the UK, across Europe to Germany and Austria, twice! Nothing has gone wrong and I get on average 46mpg. Issues: the engine struggles a bit on motorways but I have realised this car loves being revved, so just drop down the gears and give it some welly. Great fun.
Submitted: 06/10/2011 08:22:22 | ID: 8394
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I’ve owned the Punto Evo 105 multiair for the past six months. It’s a great looker and throughly enjoy its seamless power, which is so handy for over-taking. Previously I owned the classic Punto 1.2 16 valve, which I kept for 11 years and covering some 80K very reliably. I am truly bewildered by your 2 star rating , knowing very well the popularity and reliabilty of the Grande Punto.
Submitted: 03/10/2011 09:50:32 | ID: 8376
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I bought mine through vans direct. I use the van as a courier vehicle, the milage is now 197,000. Problems: Front anti-roll bar went at 40,000, the lower wishbones at 170,000 and the clutch at 196,000. This is the best van I have driven. Tip: Don’t miss a service, I think this is the key to a reliable vehicle.
Submitted: 21/09/2011 10:12:08 | ID: 8341
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I bought this car second hand two years ago with about 30000km on the clock (17000 miles, I think). I have since put on another 70 000km (about 38000miles) and this car has never let me down. It was recalled just to check some screw or nut or whatever on the steering column which took about 15 minutes to check but luckily mine was not affected by the error. I recently started experiencing problems with the headlight bulbs that continue to blow, but I have not taken it to an auto-electrician to look at. Other than that, I have not needed to do anything to it besides normal services. I’ve noticed lots of people here saying that the door handles are faulty. I have found that my one back door handle does stick a little, but I don’t have kids and don’t often have passengers so it’s not a big deal and they still work. I travel about 60 miles per day on the motorway/highway and I am extremely impressed with this diesel engine. It really has a LOT of power compared to a petrol engine. I can keep the car in 5th gear all the way on the open road. It doesn’t lose power on uphills. Fuel consumption is good, I get about 16km per liter of diesel. I had a 1.2 Fiat Palio before this car and only got about 11-12km per litre of petrol. I love my car. It has all the features that I could possible want and it is packed with about 6 airbags and side impact protection beams. I don’t know if other drivers were just unlucky to get duds or whether I was lucky not to but it will be a sad day when I need to replace it due to high mileage.
Submitted: 16/09/2011 11:23:19 | ID: 8320
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I purchased my Fiat Ducato 2.8 JTD in 2008 from Newcastle Australia with 247000km’s on it at the time. I have covered 588000km’s on it at the moment and it still pulls hard. No smoke no hesitation of power. Since then: Fuel pump reconditioned at 390000 km’s; Turbo reconditioned at 450000 km’s; Gearbox replaced at 500000 km’s ( not bad considering it’s towing a 2.5T trailer). The front 3 radiators has been replaced at 515000 together with everything front and around them. The reason? A wombat wasn’t fast enough crossing the Great Western Highway (destroyed the whole front end!) Now the fan switch has gone and the airconditioning is leaking slightly so in about 3 months it needs a regas. The front shock absorbers are gone due all those country roads in QLD. Otherwise I’m very happy with the van. It needs an upgrade soon though.
Submitted: 12/09/2011 18:39:25 | ID: 8307
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I bought the van new and have had no problems apart from a leak in an aircon hose, which Lee Garage, Cork fixed immediately without any quibble. 120,000 km done and it feels well capable of doubling that without any trouble. Fuel consumption varies from 39.7 mpg on an intentional 600 km economy trip down to 26 mpg on multi-drop work in the city. Its my second Ducato and I see no reason why there won’t be a third.
Submitted: 11/09/2011 09:04:58 | ID: 8292
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Stay away at all costs!! I bought it with only 13k on the clock. I needed to change the wiper mechanism, then the exhaust decided to come off whilst driving. Also had to have the radiator and fan changed. The thermostat wanted to leave the bonnet. The Pads and discs were gone before you knew it. Then the bonnet opener snapped. A problem water pipe next and oil leaking not to mention how the car rattles on the motorway. This car needs an mot on its 1st birthday because it isn’t road worthy. Never again!!!!
Submitted: 01/09/2011 11:04:11 | ID: 8242
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I bought this car from new and I have been very happy with it. It’s stylish roomy and nippy when allowed. Unfortunately some little ******* decided to take it for a spin and now the problems have started! I am sure it would still be running right if that had not happened. I would definitely buy another and I would recommend one to others. But this time I wouldn’t leave the keys in the ignition - LOL!
Submitted: 30/08/2011 13:16:41 | ID: 8237
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I am a delivery driver and cover up to 100 to 150 miles per day, and I have to say the Fiat Ducato I drive is amazing. It’s good on fuel and speed and don’t have much bother with it at all - apart from the shuddering in reverse, which is not good! All in all great handling, great seating positions and great for deliveries.
Submitted: 30/08/2011 12:03:56 | ID: 8227
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A total waste of money, the biggest bag of trash I have ever driven. I’ve had 4 turbos go in 41K. It drinks juice and is vile to drive. More warning buzzers than enough. Don’t go near them. My normal van is a VW transporter, which had 176k on the clock and has only let me down once with a broken drive shaft. Says it all to me!!
Submitted: 30/08/2011 10:47:38 | ID: 8216
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Great little runabout - the ride can be a little harsh and limited boot space but hey, what can you expect from a cut price supermini? Much improved door mirrors from earlier models and no concerns - would recommend for motoring on a budget.
Submitted: 26/08/2011 08:27:45 | ID: 8202
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I purchased my 120 multijet 2.3 LWB van in July 2007 and had many problems under warranty. The first was a broken connection to the fuel filter, which caused diesel to spew over the entire engine. Next was the steering wheel which, jammed on a roundabout, the cause of which was a broken steering linkeage. Then I was left with no acceleration on a freeway caused by a split turbo hose. Then again on a freeway the clutch went completely; a total rebuild was required of which Fiat would only pay half of the $2800 cost. The air conditioning hose needed replacing, which Fiat were reluctant over. The most dangerous fault happened as I turned left in slow traffic when the front right wheel snapped from the drive shaft, this could have been fatal had I been travelling at high speed. I try to earn a living driving this van but it costs me dearly. Stay away from Fiat!
Submitted: 22/08/2011 15:19:52 | ID: 8193
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I’ve been reading all the threads here and my advice is don’t buy the new shape Scudo, simple as that!!, I have a 2004 1.9 el with 139,000 miles on the clock. It has just had a new clutch fitted, has NEVER needed any water, but it has had the oil topped up now and again. I drive this really really hard and it just keeps going and I’ve run it without a air filter for about 70,000 miles, just sprayed grease in the air filter compartment (without filter in it). It smokes for about 2 seconds when first starting and NO smoke from exhaust. Oh and it had its last oil change 50,000 miles ago! I worked for a company that had the new shape and it had to have a new gearbox and loads of other stuff done. Avoid. Yes, mine’s had a few issues but I would recommend you buy the old shape, they are brilliant.
Submitted: 16/08/2011 07:32:21 | ID: 8175
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I bought my Punto from a Fiat dealership in Stockport. I was the second owner so the car had done 8,990 miles when I got it. Guess what? After only 24,000 miles the power steering column failed, barely a month after the warranty ran out. The dealership I bought the car from had ceased trading so I took the advice of the nearest Fiat dealership to me. They didn’t want to know. I spoke to Fiat UK in Slough, and again they couldn’t get me off the phone quick enough. In fact they were quite rude, not their problem, not even an apology, despite me explaining that I am a full time carer for my daughter and make weekly hospital visits. The reason for their total lack of support? Because the first owner hadn’t bothered to have it serviced in the year he had it so it had no service history. What annoyed me more was a colleague drives the same make, model and year Punto yet his was recalled free for the same fault while mine cost me £600 to put right. The car is approaching 40000 miles and I am nervous the same fault will re-occur.
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The same problem happened to me but I had bought the car from new. I was told by the dealership if my reg was on their list from Fiat that I could have it done. They went out of buisness. I was told by Fiat [italy], if the area manager for that region agreed, I could claim half of the costs back through him but I am still waiting for the reply from him and my phone bill from all the calls to him and italy - David D’Onofrio from Staffordshire
I have had exactly the same problem with my Grande Punto 1.2 2006. The power steering started failing intermittently eight months ago. Since it was out of warranty, I have had no joy from the dealership, and no response from Fiat. I was quoted what equates to 10% of the original value of the car (new) to repair. I don’t have that kind of money and am stuck with a car that is near impossible to drive and unsellable! - Gillian Zannos from South Africa
Submitted: 14/08/2011 12:36:09 | ID: 8129
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What can I say? £10,800 for the trekking version; real 52 MPG, £35 tax and £200 fully comp insurance for wife and I. The ice and snow tyres supplied as standard were excellent during the last ice age in Fife and the car never missed a beat. Air Con, Blue and Me, privacy glass and roof rails included make a nice package too. It handles well and does what it says on the tin. It’s no sports car but who’s in a hurry?
Submitted: 03/08/2011 08:07:29 | ID: 8084
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This is my 2nd Doblo. Part ex’d the first one after 120k miles for this one which had done 17k miles. It has been just as dependable as the first, but has let me down once; something electrical had corroded, but the car was out of warranty. My dealer was/is OK but a good nag with Fiat Customer Services got me a £200 voucher against servicing so... Like the first, it is very sensitive to front tracking. It is easy to go through front tyres quickly if you keep kerbing the car. I find it one of the most comfortable cars I have ever driven; I’m 6’4" and have never suffered back ache in it. Yes it rolls around a bit and yes it looks like a brick, but I cannot think of anything I would replace it with. The new Doblo looks too big, I would ideally like 4x4 for Northeast winters and maybe a longer top or 6th gear as the mpg falls on motorways at anything over 70 thanks to the hopeless aerodynamics. But generally it indicates about 48.8. Also, like the old one, the indicator forgets to cancel itself and you cannot hear the click! Ditch the o/e radio but keep the speakers as they’re not bad. I’m not surprised so many taxis up here are Doblos. Guess I’ll keep this one for a good while yet. This is my 6th Fiat, I really have never had a bad one. Just don’t start me on my Citroen traumas.....!
Submitted: 03/08/2011 07:53:38 | ID: 8080
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I’ve had my SWB 2.2 Multijet from new and apart from (early on) a problem with the fuel injection it’s been great.That is until 2 weeks ago when the engine seized after 63,000 miles, even though it has a full service history. The engine has been rebuilt, along with a new crank at the cost of £3,500 and is now back on the road. I have been in touch with Fiat head office and I am now waiting to hear back.
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Had a phone call back from their head office in Slough and basically they are not interested in a van over 4 years old. Secondly, it has done 3,000 more miles than their cut-off line of 60,000. I explained it had a full service history and basically it’s not fit for purpose. All he could say was ’sorry but this, and but that’. Had an answer for everything. Won’t buy Fiat again - David Hosea from Northamptonshire
I have a 2007 Fiat Ducato van. After 80,000 miles, the engine was rattling so badly they HAD to put a new engine in it. Luckily it was within the three years JUST! I think with 3,000 miles over and a full service history they SHOULD have done something for you if only as goodwill. I would point out that I have had a new loom, new headlamps, new washer motor, and new heater motor(twice)! Grrrr! Generally, the van has been good, but I have no real confidence in it. BUT, I have had two of tyres on it from new 120,000 miles and STILL legal! I am sorry about your engine - Trevor Graham from Yorkshire
Well, the second engine is now in dispute with Fiat and the dealer! 40,000 miles and it is BUSTED!! I am disgusted with Fiat and their response, but am not taking no for an answer and have now got the lawyers and press on to this case. What a shame to have to end up like this over a stupid vehicle. Life is too short, but money is too tight - Trevor Graham from Yorkshire
Submitted: 29/07/2011 10:18:20 | ID: 8064
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I bought this second-hand I am very happy with it, with no faults or problems to report so far. It drives much better than you would expect for a chunky vehicles and has space for everyone and their junk.
Submitted: 16/07/2011 18:18:59 | ID: 7997
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What a fantastic car! Practical, powerful, looks fantastic, great mpg, cheap to tax. People who put less then 5 stars need their head examining!
Submitted: 12/07/2011 08:10:30 | ID: 7964
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Has it occurred to you that this car won European Car of the year? Also I have a Honda Civic 2009 and you would consider a Honda high quality in manufacturing, yet it had leaks in both rear doors due to sloppy assembly and rust forming underneath. It is only two years old. This is Honda, right? You might be the unlucky owner of a car that had a bad day on the assembly line. This happens and it does not apply to ever car. I say stop the bashing of Fiat and learn how to maintain one. Instead of complaining, go after the dealer and fight to get issues resolved.
Submitted: 08/07/2011 10:25:40 | ID: 7953
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A very good car overall. The 2nd gear is a little bit notchy when cold, but ok when warm. The engine is that good you need not use 2nd gear at all. The suspension is a little bit firm, but you can live with it. Going around corners is more sportcar than 4x4. Very good driving position as well. A hard car to fault.
Submitted: 03/07/2011 20:03:28 | ID: 7935
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Bought as an Ex demonstrator, 3 months old with 2600 on the clock and at first was pleased. Within weeks we had problems with the electric doors opening by themselves evening allowing our 3 year old to fall out into the road when the vehicle was stopped. Plagued with water getting into the electrics, poor drainage and stupid location of fuseboxes, I wouldn’t recommend this car to anyone. In the first year the car went into the dealership 13 times (twice for over a week). Dealership told us that the car had numerous design flaws in the electrics and that Fiat had tried to be too ambitious with the computer systems. The knock on effect of this car’s poor reliability is that the Ulysse now has extremely poor residual value. Built by robots, designed by morons, Fiat UK have washed their hands of any responsibility. The last issue was a loose battery terminal which spiked the computer and did £800.00 worth of damage. Dealership stated that it was the poor design of the quick release battery terminal that was at fault, but we still had a bill for £800.00. All in all if yours works you’re lucky, but don’t be surprised if you get a heap of issues with it. The more advanced your version the more likely your are to get issues. Buyer beware!!
Submitted: 03/07/2011 19:47:40 | ID: 7932
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The Punto Evo offers additional punch compared to the regular Punto. I drove the regular Punto while learning to drive and I found it a dull and uninspired drive, even as a learner. You can image how surprised I was to find myself with a Punto again, but it is safe to say this little model is a lot more fun. Even though it is more powerful, it is still impressively economical. I would recommend it as a great drive.
Submitted: 01/07/2011 09:52:18 | ID: 7926
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We bought a Scudo from an auction. Previously owned by a vending company (in Lincoln) when we picked it up it wouldn’t run properly; coughs and splutters when half revs were reached. We had it checked out on a computer and found the turbo was faulty, airflow meter faulty, suspension bushes badly worn, oil in water (head gasket gone). Tyres off all the time (tracking spot on), major diesel leak when tank nearly full, plus lots of other defects. Eventually sold it privately and are glad to get rid of it after losing a small fortune on it. Somebody elses problem now.
Submitted: 22/06/2011 22:24:13 | ID: 7893
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Very good car that you might want, it is very good it is about £13,000.
Submitted: 13/06/2011 09:10:33 | ID: 7854
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Bought motorhome in March, parked up, ran it every other day 5600 mles on the clock with service history. like John from Berkshire said it gets 75mpg and it does exactly the same. Still at the garage now for diagnostics.
Submitted: 29/05/2011 23:00:30 | ID: 7803
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This is my 3rd 2.5tdi powered m/home, the Kontiki gave up to 30mpg in good conditions, the Bessy lighter is so well suited to the 2.5 gives up to 33 mpg, of course this is 60mph cruise only as faster gets too noisy. Never had a problem with this motor,I’m a diesel fitter ex. Simple to maintain motor covered lots of miles never had a prob with 5th gear or reverse shudder, super campers.
Submitted: 25/05/2011 08:45:49 | ID: 7785
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Was very happy with car for the first 6 months then a littany of problems, the worst being new brake pads and discs yearly on 8000 miles. I would not recommend buying a Punto.
Submitted: 25/05/2011 08:21:08 | ID: 7780
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Very good vehicle, spends about 40% of time on dirt roads. I do all of my own service. Have done 44000 kilometers. I have recommended this vehicle to many people. I am an electrical contractor.
Submitted: 17/05/2011 14:43:41 | ID: 7742
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I purchased a long wheel base Fiat Scudo taxi with 12000 miles almost a year ago and have had nothing but problem after problem. I have already had to replace the anti roll bar and both front ball joints not to mention two sets of tyres for the front and one set for the back and numerous amount of bulbs. I am not hard on my Scudo as I use it for it for my business. At this moment it is now back in the hands of Fiat yet again waiting for a new fly wheel to be replaced, which due to some modification that the dealers say they knew nothing about, I have now been off the road for almost a week. Take my advice.......STAY WELL CLEAR OF THIS MODEL!!
Submitted: 16/05/2011 13:22:13 | ID: 7731
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We bought this van secondhand because we had to make regular 1000 mile trips with bulky loads and several people. It is fitted with a custom double cab and the 11JTD engine. The turbo was whistling like a banshee when we purchased, but Fiat replaced it under the 2 year guarantee without any quibbles. Since then we have had no serious problems at all with it. Minor complaints are the lack of power (not a problem in flat country, but annoying in mountains), wind noise at speeds over 65 mph (especially with cross winds), and frequent bulb failure in the headlights. Virtues are the excellent driving position and ergonomic driving seat, excellent visibility when manoeuvering and reliability. Now she’s 8 years old and has 160k on the clock she’s showing signs of dowdiness and must be replaced. I hope we can find a suitable replacement.
Submitted: 16/05/2011 13:01:45 | ID: 7727
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Bought my van, brand new 51 plate no problems with it at all, 85000 miles, never been in a garage except for services. Extremely reliable, was on the verge of px for the new shape scudo until I read reviews; I know from experience that Fiat dealers are useless, but still liked the van. Sounds like I won’t be investing in the new shape. Cheers for all reviews.
Submitted: 11/05/2011 14:32:15 | ID: 7685
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Have now chalked up 35000 miles and am still to achieve anything near the stated fuel economy. I do a range of trips but mainly long runs sat on the motorway @ approx 60-70. It makes little difference how I vary my driving style I still only obtain 42 mpg. I have full Fiat service history which only adds to my amazement as the second service was not cheap. In truth the main reason for my purchase was the reported fuel economy, however I can achieve better in my petrol 2007 Vectra Sri (44 mpg). Mechanically I have broken-down twice after filling up the tank and on each occasion no fault could be found by the dealer. Have also had the complete wiper arm assembly replace due to rust fatigue (I have a alarming amount of rust around the vehicle). Rear doors have rust bubbling from beneath the paint surface.
Submitted: 11/05/2011 14:26:04 | ID: 7684
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Should have listened to everyone else. What a pile of junk. Just over two year old and had more things problems than can list. Only thing that’s original is the block, head and g/box I think. Two terminal breakdowns, into dealer a total of 6 times and it’s still not right. Last time they said it was all done. Got out of the dealers gate and there it was again. I can’t knock the dealer, he’s doing his best, but the van, mechanically etc is the pits. Driving is great, when it’s running. Wonder what it will be like when it’s done lots of miles, if it ever gets there. Stay clear of Fiat Vans!!!!!!
Submitted: 11/05/2011 14:08:10 | ID: 7682
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As a small fleet owner, I didn’t jump at buying a Fiat, however, after 300000 +miles on the clock it eventually died. Positives: I think this could have been one of the best vans we have had, great mpg returns and in general low enough maintance costs. Negatives: speed sensor went in gear box approx 120k turbo 200K and 1 oil leak, nothing else outside of usual. Van was serviced on time and extra oil change between services overall. No matter what you buy you have to maintain and this van did us well. Didn’t buy another one as Renault fleet gave me a 5 year unlimited milage warranty with a replacement van for service plus breakdowns. This Fiat was good, maybe I was lucky?
Submitted: 03/05/2011 10:53:13 | ID: 7659
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We bought this car for my wife after we drove one around Italy for 2500 miles and not having felt tired. I have nothing but praise for this car, yes there has been the odd failing but these were sorted out by the dealer we have owner the car since 12k miles it is now at 96k and apart the power steering failure which required a new motor (We bought a non FIAT version) we have not had a problem. It is an attractive car that you can travel distance in and not feel uncomfortable. I thought for the money it was a good buy and we have been pleased with it.
Submitted: 03/05/2011 10:40:18 | ID: 7656
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I work as a rep and I had to make a decision on the type of car to buy for the purpose. I do roughly 5000kms a month and I figured a car with a bigger engine could fit the bill. I have put 100000kms on the clock in just over 2yrs, not one problem. Smooth and comfortable with enough grunt to blow off not so daring gti drivers. I’m loving it!
Submitted: 03/05/2011 09:46:53 | ID: 7642
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Love it! I have owned several so called luxury cars, but use mine to ferry a group of four friends on photo trips from Cornwall to Scottish Highlands and all over UK. Most economical car I have ever owned and I have a heavy foot! It’s truly comfortable on long journeys both as a passenger and driver. Ex-police driver friend and a car mech recently shared the journey to and around the Highlands. Fought for chance to drive it as hugely impressed! One of the group is a Berlingo owner and was also very impressed. Forget the look and consider space, comfort and economy as more important! It’s no slouch either!
Submitted: 28/04/2011 09:05:24 | ID: 7622
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Living in Crete I wanted something that would get us up the mountain roads/tracks in the winter and yet still provide us with a comfortable mode of transport in the hot summers. The Sedici filled the bill from square one with its 4WD we have negotiated some pretty awful muddy mountain tracks without difficulty and still managed to collect the family members from the airport in comfort in the summer. Just for once I got it right from square one by deciding to buy the Sedici and the bonus is a return of 40mpg overall, as petrol in Crete is currently (04/2011) £1.55/litre and cheaper road tax.. Well done Fiat/Suzuki.
Submitted: 25/04/2011 11:19:45 | ID: 7606
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This FIAT Sedici business has been an adventure. Similar to the review above I’ve had enormous trouble with the gearbox and the transfer box resulting in many tows/lifts from many different places. AA calling out, etc. etc. Mucho trouble with the running gear. Odd, considering Suzuki are meant to be the experts at 4x4s. I get this amazing noise from the differential on full lock. My mechanic (not FIAT’s) informed me when he was servicing the Sedici last year that there was no oil in the differential. This is peculiar because the first year of it’s life on the road spent at least four months in a FIAT main dealer garage. This eventually got so bad with the drive-shaft or gearbox thrashing itself so regularly that an ’expert’ from FIAT England had to come over to investigate. Needless to say the only one to benefit from all this was the FIAT main dealer because it was all warranty work that they got paid for. First the transfer box could not be ordered without the gearbox so it was repaired and then the gearbox was repaired when it went again and all I got were reports and a Sedici that clapped out soon after. Having had my fill of in and outness from the garage; e-mails back and forth from FIAT Assistance I decided to threaten legal action in a very long nasty sounding e-mail in Italian and Irish and since your man came over from England the problem hasn’t re-occurred . . . . Although there’s a new oil leak under the gearbox now where it parks. As mentioned above the engine is a rocket! Good for 220kmh. It will get you out of any bother if you need to whisk out of someone’s way in a hurry. Problems with it cutting out at the traffic lights were solved by not actually trying to accelerate away but rather letting the engine move the car the first few inches and then apply the throttle. There was always a problem with immediate acceleration from start-up, unlike normally aspirated diesels where the power is there for the asking. When the engine is started you need to check for a tiny waver on the rev counter during tick-over which (to me) indicated that the computer had caught up (woken up more like) with the agenda of the moment and ’allowed’ you to accelerate to your heart’s content. Failure to observe this resulted in two of the most annoying habits the Sedici has. Number 1. The vehicle sits there and does nothing. I can floor the throttle in 1st gear and there is no response. I can’t release the clutch because I know it’ll cut out, so I up and down on the pedal like a nut seeking a hint of a rev . . . not happening. So, off with the engine and start again. The lights turn red and we all just wasted half a mile or a minute’s time. I don’t know how many hundreds of times this happened but I eventually sussed the rev counter needle flicker after starting and no throttle yet. Now I’m an ace at ’start n go’ in the Sedici. Number 2. is when the acceleration and the clutch don’t match up as you would normally expect and the engine just clunks to a stop. Numerous times this has happened at traffic lights, gates, side roads, and furious acceleration just to get going is not the most eco of solutions. It’s a car you have to learn! Now with nearly 99km on the clock the whole thing is loosening up and getting more economical. I’m currently at 6.3L/100km. The most I got out of a tankful (small tank at 50L) was 835km for 46 liters a few months after buying it - never to be repeated because I lowered the tyre profile by 5. But I reckon it’s as economical as the rest. I will say, though, FIAT were very helpful and on the ball during the first year of troubled motoring. Since I started using my own mechanic (complete with out of date dongles) I’ve had none of it. I had great fun in the snow and ice with the four wheel drive but I couldn’t throw the car around like the old Mirafirori or the 306s. One more thing, again repeating what written above - the seats need rethinking and the fabric is woeful! Within a year I need to re-upholster two front seats, it’s that bad . . If you’re going to buy one, make sure it’s had all it’s gearbox problems already. By the way. 2nd gear is impossible to select until it’s warm so be patient
Submitted: 25/04/2011 10:53:54 | ID: 7601
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I have mixed feelings... As a car when I bought it, it had new fan belt and timing belt fitted, and seemed pretty roadworthy. I drove it some 12,000mi, during which the ONLY problem was the wiper mechanism stopped working (common problem, simple fix = drill hole in, add pin, weld shut - garage can do it ;) ). Then, I left it cold for the winter, while I went to Colombia. Asked gf to turn the engine over once a week, fine; she put a solar panel (12W) into the cig lighter and left it on the floor for me. She started up just fine after that, got a winter safety check on it and found front discs were shot to pieces - fair enough, I was mean to her, she was mean to my wallet!! Now then, 3k miles later she went for her 1st MOT with me. OH DEAR. New exhaust needed, and new headlamp ’cos I crashed and smashed the clips. £600 total, bought parts myself from breakers (new), £300 labour + £25 Halfords had to fiddle (washers were used!!) with the light to align it and make it pass. 2 days later, I crashed again - hit a curb at 30. Oil sump cracked, 1 breakeryard.com had one for £120. Needed feed pipe too, another £46, plus £60 labour and opening on a Sat charge from garage in Liverpool. AFTER doing the work, these ’clutch specialists’ told me the clutch would go in about a week or 2. I’ve seen a kit on Ebay for it at £90, plus approx. £200 labour I hear. Still not had a service yet, because I had to save up for the MOT/tax/insurance (£900 on their own!!) so couldn’t afford to keep the car if I’d serviced it. Now wish I had though, cos they’d have told me it was a heap and I’d have scrapped it. So, it’s a clown’s car above about 80k miles/10yrs old. Live and learn ;)
Responses to this review
Stop crashing! It makes ’em last longer - Happy owner from Kent, England
Any car would’ve given you problems after what you put it through. I love my Grande Punto and it has already done 100,000km or about 60,000miles - Carol from South Africa
Submitted: 13/04/2011 16:37:51 | ID: 7560
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Fix It Again Tomorrow!!! I owned one 5 years ago. That’s all I was doing with my damn Punto. It’s a total C**P! It had 35.000 kilometres believe me or not and all I was doing with it was fixing something.. I could service BMW M3 cheaper; Head gasket, water pump, thousand electrical breakdowns from servo to wipers etc. It costs a fortune to repair(Front wiper engine is around 300euros) You can’t even replace damn light bulb without pulling apart half your car. 1.2 Engine 60HP and it drinks gas like racing car. GOD FORBID!
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Is there anything to get better fuel consumption? - Holy Fitzpatrick from Norfolk
Submitted: 12/04/2011 11:25:05 | ID: 7541
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Bought this used around 5 years ago and have put over 50,000 miles on it. First the good stuff - it’s big on the outside but massive on the inside - we go camping with masses of stuff, three kids and a dog and it swallows it all. For the size of car it’s cheap to buy and cheap to run. We had an old Volvo estate previous to this and the Doblo holds more. It’s been relatively reliable - never left us standing by the roadside and no massive repair bills. Height makes it easy to spot in Sainsbury’s car park! The bad stuff: You need to thrash it to get any kind of acceleration out of it - fully loaded on some long drags on dual carriageways you have to drop a gear and put your foot to the floor just to hold 50mph. Mostly it’s OK though - especially if it isn’t loaded and you don’t buy one as a sports car. Some of the newer models are a lot more pokey and just as economical. Whilst there have been no big repairs there have been a fair few little niggly ones - often to do with the door switches and suchlike - the sliding doors are good but seem to be a source of glitches. Inside is cheap and cheerful - if you like your luxury this isn’t for you - if you want it as a working vehicle and aren’t houseproud then maybe it is. Would I get another - yes - because I need the space and I’m on a budget. If you want a drivers car and don’t need quite so much space you’d be better off with a traditional estate.
Submitted: 07/04/2011 18:33:30 | ID: 7516
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This car was a big winner on looks and performance. It was for my boyfriend and I to share and until we found this car we couldn’t agree on anything because I was more interested in the look and he wanted performance. We found that the Fiat 500 price was the best value for the type of car we were looking for. It’s almost a cross between the VW Beetle and BMW Mini, just with a much bigger design range.
Submitted: 06/04/2011 13:46:33 | ID: 7510
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Dreadful car: Small inside and with many really stupid features. Despite REALLY slow/careful driving, drifting down hills in neutral, with very little town work the very best MPG I could get is a pathetic 44.3 . The wiper controls are a nightmare, obviously ’designed’ by a 3 year old, and no variable intermittent control. The indicators insist on giving 3 flashes minimum. I like to give a single flash to acknowledge others actions, just not possible. The headlights are useless on main beam, like driving down a tunnel, only one double filament bulb per light. If the dip beam stayed on too they would be fine. On main beam a glaring bright blue bulb shines up from the dash, conveniently blinding the driver. The seats become super uncomfortable after about an hour. The Bluetooth system is hopeless, doesn’t work at all half the time and when it does connect almost impossible to hear the caller. Most annoying of all Fiat miserably only provide one ’plip’ key, so the person with the non plip key can’t open the rear hatch without opening the car and leaning inside to press the button. Oh and the rear hatch opening is so small it’s not possible to carry a dishwasher etc, etc, which my other car, a Clio (a MUCH better/roomier car) carries easily. I’ve managed to get rid of my Punto today after 15 months of the most miserable motoring. It’s cost me a lot to trade it in so soon, but SO glad.
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Gutted - Olly from England
Drifting down hills in neutral will use more fuel than driving with a gear engaged. The engine will use fuel to stay idling, whereas if it is in gear the kinetic energy of the car being transferred from the wheels to the gearbox to the engine will keep it turning over - Craig from Lancashire
Not sure what Punto you had, I’ve had a 42" TV in the back of mine, a kitchen table and 6 chairs from Ikea at another time, loads of room. You can order a second key for under £100. 44.3mpg out of a 1.4 8v with a 5 speed box is excellent for a petrol car. Mine with the 16v engine and 6 speed will get 55.6mpg - Brian Smith from Ireland
Websites like this are useful for people researching buying a new car and comments from people who haven’t been taught how to drive properly and clearly haven’t read their handbook are unnecessary. The indicator is supposed to flash three times if you press it briefly. This is common to most modern cars and is designed to make it easier changing lanes without leaving the indicator on. Not a fault! As the other commentator said, rolling a car along in neutral uses more fuel than rolling in gear! In neutral, the fuel has to be thrown into the engine just to keep the engine ticking over whereas if you are in gear the road wheels will keep the engine turning on hills while using no fuel at all. 44mpg out of a car that is rated for 47mpg by Fiat is pretty good. 80-90% is typical compared to manufacturer figures as they do their tests in a lab with no wind and little rolling resistence - Roger from Hertfordshire
Submitted: 02/04/2011 22:18:27 | ID: 7504
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They are a great litte 4x4, I had it for 3 year, very reliable and good road holding. engine is a rocket but noisy . ok at speed though. Only changed it a week ago and miss it already. Big gap between oil change. Full diff lock is good for dragging a trailer out of the mud. I bought this as it was the only small diesel 4x4 on the market and its exceptional at towing, its small turning circle makes backing a box trailer a doddle The only reason I would not give it 5 stars is the seats have no height adjustment and are impossible to keep clean.
Submitted: 02/04/2011 18:51:45 | ID: 7492
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Bought the van in late 2008, only had 6k miles on the clock, genuine reason why so low, not the van’s fault! Now has 31k on the. After 12k had the usual problem with the EGR valve sticking. Dealer was incompetent but eventually fixed/replaced it. Also put on engine cover to stop the water damaging the injectors etc, then rang to say that this was not a warranty repair on the van, only the motorhome variants!!! The rear door extension opening buttons have dropped out and various torx fixings have needed tightening. That said, it has turned out to be a reliable and economical van. It is a pleasure to drive and often has a 700 mile journey abroad and I find the driving position and comfort excellent. Has carried all sorts of loads and is still pretty respectable. Would I buy another? Probably No because the overall image of these vans is so poor and must affect resale. Having said that, what else is better for the money especially if you cannot afford a VW or Merc?
Submitted: 27/03/2011 20:28:34 | ID: 7449
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32000 MILES, great fuel consumption,5 0 mpg in town. No customer service from Arnold Clark. Has had thrust bearing, gear linkages,drive shaft snap at gearbox and now gearbox needs replaced. Needless to say now out of warranty. Only my oppinion but beware. Now stuck with big repair bill and fiat say "TOUGH" out of warranty
Submitted: 26/03/2011 22:49:43 | ID: 7439
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We purchased 2 of these new from a minibus conversion specialist, both have had gearbox and clutch problems on several occasions, and unlimited numbers of electrical faults and trim falling off, failing etc, worse than an 80’s Lada, rubbish, will never buy another Fiat product!
Submitted: 20/03/2011 11:27:12 | ID: 7391
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Bought this van from new five years ago. Got the full spec including a/c and cruise £10,500. Had an anti-roll bar replaced under warranty and the back box on the exhaust has just dropped off. Apart from that this van has been fantastic, comfy and quick and it still looks great in SX trim with met paint.
Submitted: 17/03/2011 23:07:35 | ID: 7385
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Just over three years old, several faults including: major oil leak, excessives tyre wear, knocking front supension, brake failure twice, most of all serious cracking on body work next to side loading doors estimated costs £3200. Fiat will not cover warranty on this, 8 year body warranty not worth paper it’s written on. I am consulting a lawyer on retuning the van as not fit for purpose under trading standards, updates will follow. Be warned, financial disaster if buying Fiat commercial.
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We have had a Scudo van for three years and in that time, it has had a new engine, complete loom replacement, two gearboxes and now it had problems with the fuel pump. I am considering the "not fit for purpose" angle and I wondered how you got on with your litigation. Please feel free to contact me on haking@btinternet.com - Hazel King from Kent
Submitted: 14/03/2011 20:00:09 | ID: 7370
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I have owned this car from new and have nothing but praise for it. I have driven 90,000 trouble free miles. It has never let me down and the only running costs have been tyres and servicing. It has just had a MOT and again no repairs. There was a strange episode when all of the warning lights came on and the gauges and repeaters stopped working but it mended itself after restarting. I will buy another Grande Punto when it’s worn out. You’ll never buy a second hand car from me!!!
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I have the Grande Punto dynamic 1.4 16v sport and can say this car is awesome. I had the car from new. It comes packed out with features, USB interface, MP3 player, air-con, bluetooth phone controller, electric windows etc. Never had a problem with it. Religously goes for service every year and sails through MOTs no problem. Drove it to South of France, getting 65mpg in sixth gear most of the way. Great car, roomy inside fun to drive plus very pokey. It picks up really well for little extra burst of speed! :-) - Darrel Sutherland from England
Submitted: 13/03/2011 21:48:48 | ID: 7364
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I have owned my Fiat Punto from new. I find it good in town and on motorways it usualy returnes 47 to 51 mpg and the engine never misses a beat. I have serviced it myself and have only put it in the dealers for a cam belt replacement. The only problem I have had to date is the gear cables snapped, which cost me £160 supply only (Fiat dealer prices) I fitted them myself that afternoon. All in all it has been a good car and a hard act to follow.
Submitted: 13/03/2011 21:34:30 | ID: 7361
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The general design of the van isn’t bad; good loadspace, decent cab, nice to drive. Reliability is a problem though. The electrics all packed up a few months ago, getting every warning light on the dash lit, and the speedometer dying. This happened immediately after recall work to fix the headlights turning ’off’ (which never happened with our van)- now the headlights turn ’on’ of their own accord, causing at least one near miss due to another driver thinking they’ve been flashed out at a junction. Taken to three different dealers, the first 2 claimed they couldn’t do much because they’re not "van specialists". The final dealer had the van in for 2 months, and after replacing the body computer and power steer unit, the van is back on the road, £2000 later. All this was due to ’corroded wiring’, and on a lightly used van; its done about 45,000 miles. Also various trim pieces are beginning to fall off, the turbo is whistling like a shepherd and cracks are appearing in the paintwork. Fuel economy: 32mpg. Avoid.
Submitted: 11/03/2011 15:27:57 | ID: 7333
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I did a lot of research before buying and on the whole, it’s a great little car. No regrets but here’s what the ’my Panda is so cute and he’s called Peter’ owners neglect to mention: it could do with reach adjustment on the steering wheel. It’s comfortable but as a tall man, I’ve never found the ideal driving position. It’s the classic Italian short leg long arm issue. It doesn’t induce confidence during cornering, sometimes alarming, especially at speed. A swift change of direction is at your peril. There’s far too much body roll. It handles better with a full load. You can forget attempting to match Fiat fuel consumption figures. I manage an combined average of around 40mpg over a full tank. Even if I try i can only raise it to 43. Clutch, accelerator and steering are ludicrously light in feel. The pedals are also set off-centre. Windscreen washer jets point where they like in spite of constant re-aiming.
Submitted: 11/03/2011 09:18:30 | ID: 7324
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Reading these reviews is confusing as some seem to have the car from hell and others are over the moon for the same car. For the record, of my last 25 cars in 15 years (yep, I do a few miles!) from Fiat, Vauxhall and Seat, I have not had a bad one yet. Orange peel paint? I have never seen it. Also, I have never had a bad dealer, except for the one who were stripped of their dealership by Fiat (allegedly). My current dealer, Thames Fiat in Slough is superb. On to the car: Internal Styling: Excellent. Colouring and materials very clean, although I think Sport interior is the best. All controls accessible. Leg space okay. Boot okay. Only criticism is that 30 mph and 70 mph should be highlighted on the speedo; it’s too easy to stray into speed camera territory. Lots of seat/wheel adjustment, but its true that if you have the drivers seat on maximum height and the steering wheel on minimum height and you are 5 foot 10 inches, then you can’t see the top of the speedo, but the seats are comfortable and a good fit, although could be a bit harder. External Styling: Excellent. Although rear window is marginally smaller than SEAT Leon (for example), the driver’s mirrors give excellent overtaking view. Visibility is generally good. Mine is Maserati blue; very smart! Handling: Quite grippy. No corner roll. Suspension very firm/solid and does not absorb the big bumps. Ride quality therefore suffers if you hit a bump, but it seems okay for normal motorway and well made roads. It would be interesting to see the effect of the Sport boost button on the petrol model. Rides well through deep puddles. It’s very easy to front wheel spin in 2nd/3rd. Excellent charging out from roundabouts. After some experimentation, I found that the CITY mode was best everywhere except on the motorway, because the torque on acceleration off roundabouts in particular needed more power assistance to the steering than the NORMAL mode. Once I had decided that, it was much easier to apply full power out of roundabouts. Engine: Excellent. Fast, powerful, flexible, minimal turbo lag in low revs. 53mpg achievable. Gearbox: clutch a bit heavy, but very fast to bite on change, which I like. Gearbox intermittently rather notchy. However, it gets very notchy in freezing weather on first starting and only becomes good when the g/box is very hot. I got a new gearbox and clutch from Fiat under warranty but with only a slight improvement. The only place it’s really a smooth pleasure is after a dash down the motorway, but as soon as the oil cools down, it looses the smoothness that makes driving a pleasure. 6th gear very comfortable cruising gear. Braking: okay. Noise: No wind noise except above 70 mph. Engine acceptable for a diesel and good at high speed. Average tyre noise. Radio/CD: superb and the options e.g. speed volume are just what you need. General Facilities e.g. heated mirrors: could not think of anything else I need. Price: I would not buy one new for £18K, but 6 months old and low mileage at £12K is hard to turn down. In general, I like this car, but you need to be content with the hard suspension and make sure the gear box/clutch are smooth. PS check the tyre pressures first!
Submitted: 08/03/2011 21:35:01 | ID: 7305
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Bought a X reg as a first car I learned in a Audi A1 and I love my Punto, it’s really nippy for a small car and looks really good compared to other people’s first cars. They only fall to bits if you buy them second hand from boy racers.
Submitted: 07/03/2011 10:20:12 | ID: 7300
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The car was ok until it reached 35,000 miles and has had new radiator, water pump, brakes pads and discs (twice), cam belt, gear box, clutch (twice) and a problem causing the front tyres to wear down only on the inside of the wheel soon after being replaced (all of this in the space of about 12months). I would not buy a Punto again, ever!!!!!
Submitted: 02/03/2011 15:37:40 | ID: 7251
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I’ ve bought the 2.0 120 HP Scudo second hand from Germany when it had 30K; now it’s at 57K with no major repairs, just changed the belts on the dealer’s recomandation, but that’s routine repairs. I’m having problems with the sway bar that’s knocking but didn’t change it for 20K; changed about 4-5 headlight bulbs. I’ve had problems with the car starting and then stalling and the dealer said I have to change some valve but didn’t and now it’s fine, turns out there was a build up of ash and over reving it fixed the problem. The thing that squirts water on the windscreen was broken but only from a blown fuse. Had a problem with the air bag light in the dashboard, when I adjust the steering wheel but that has gone away. I am finding it hard to list the major faults. I am very worried about the stuff that’s written here, I can feel the pulsation in my clutch pedal, and I’ve read that’s a sign of the clutch failing and the other stuff like blown engine, fuel tank, turbo, horrible and made me think about changing the car. I service it every 6K and rarely reach 3K revs and that must of kept it going longer. I own a tile shop and use the van for delivery so the 1.2 Ton load capacity comes in handy; when fully loaded starting and stopping at the lights I can feel hesitation in the acceleration, something I have also read here and must be related to the clutch. I have owned a 03 Fiesta and before the clutch was gone I felt less power from it; the same thing I feel from the Scudo The old model seams to be getting better reviews. I didn’t see anyone write here they reached 100K with the new model.
Submitted: 02/03/2011 15:26:21 | ID: 7248
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I have owned my Fiat Stilo for seven months now and I love it. All it’s needed since i bought it is a new tyre and wipers and a service, it drives lovely and feels solid. It’s just sailed through its MoT with flying colours. Before I got my Stilo I had a Focus with no end of problems. Best thing I ever did was to get rid of my Focus and buy my Stilo.
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Sorry, the year of car is 2003 not 2007 - Nicola King from England
Submitted: 27/02/2011 12:33:11 | ID: 7223
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A great car to drive, reliable comfortable and cheap to run, was driving a 2007 diesel Passat but this is a better car to drive. It’s had no major faults; wiper motor failed, turned out to just be a linkage, but had to buy the whole unit, got it second hand one from a web site. Hand brake is a bit awkward to use at times with the big centre console in the way. Returning 47/57 mpg and the engine has 120k. Runs lovely, would buy another. and you don’t see many of them on the road.
Submitted: 23/02/2011 21:29:42 | ID: 7191
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This is the third panda I have owned so you know I like them, but this is the first petrol I’ve had so I’m finding it a bit strange, almost having to push it up hills and gear shifting more often. The mpg is disappointing, 45 at best despite Fiat claiming an average of 57! It’s still fun to drive and I’d recommend it to those who like me have a larger car for longer trips.
Submitted: 23/02/2011 09:38:12 | ID: 7169
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Got this van in July 2009, the duologic version. 2 issues so far, but I’m not worried about them. 1st issue was during the snow the nut that connects wiper arm to the wiper motor fell of and I had no wipers. brought it to a Fiat dealer (not the one I bought if from as he’s was too far away) and they had it sorted in 15mins and put it down on the warranty even though it wasn’t covered. 2nd issue which has been in it since day one, is a noise that happens when I’m at 1700 rpm and the engine is put under stress, such as going up a hill. The dealer has told me that it is not a common problem, but it is the inner coupling on the half shaft and he has ordered two up to be fitted in the next few weeks. so once that is sorted i’ll be happy. In terms of fuel ecomny it is very difficult to achieve the figures quoted unless your happy to have an old lady in a micra over take you. However, I mainly to 50 town 50 motor way and even though I’m not getting what I though I’d get I am still very happy getting around 50 - 55 mpg. In terms of speed I think she is a little rocket. Ok getting out of first can be slow but once you hit the kick down in second and look in your rear view mirror the other cars are still at the lights. I was even racing a little boy racer last night who I knew was surprised that the little van could stay on his tail without having two no. 4inch diameter exhausts hanging out the rear. Comfort wise, very good easily go 200 miles and you feel fine after your journey. Space wise very good aswell, especially with the drop down passinger seat when carring 8ft lenghts. Rear doors nead a good bang to close properly however the auto locks are a nice touch. Coffee cup location is c**p it should be mounted on the dash. Drivers adjustable position very good. you can go for low down or hign in the sky which makes me feel I’m back in my old 4x4 but without the fuel bills. The lack of floor mats suppplied with it was, I felt a bit mean. I’ve had 360 kg in the back and she loved it fuel economy went up a little, but you would expect that. So after doing 26000km in 8 months and driving it like I robbed it I would have to say I’m very pleased with my Florino. So much so I’m thinking of getting the Qubo as a family car.
Submitted: 23/02/2011 07:53:38 | ID: 7162
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Got my Ducato in may last year, just because it was cheap and I really didn’t intend on a LWB for my first van and 2 years driving experience. She’s a star, runs on a thimble, takes loads of knocks and hardly a scratch and is so easy to fix it’s silly and as a fairly new driver I have backed into a few fences/posts but not a ding on the van!. I recently had to use a 2/4 to prop the gearbox back in, but that was nothing a couple of cabinet braces couldn’t fix. I was in a band for 5 years touring in the back of an 05 reg, never ever let us down either. When this old bus dies it’s definitely another Ducato for me.
Submitted: 19/02/2011 21:32:19 | ID: 7134
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Hello, I know there is a design flaw in the new Fiat Ducato windscreen wiper moter linkage as the large arm on my van bent, (very weak and only flat 50mm metal), it was during the frost, the wipers got stuck to the windscreen, the arm by the motor got bent and I had to bend it back in to shape but was never the same and broke completly soon after. Ordered a used part, it was bent in the same place! They refunded the money no problem and the breaker said that as soon as this linkage comes in from vans that have been in the breakers they go straight out so there’s a high demand. Dear Fiat, Peugeot, Citroen, It’s a flaw in the design!
Submitted: 17/02/2011 15:22:50 | ID: 7125
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Bought a 55 plate Ducato 2.0 jtd swb, second hand, a year ago. Handles brill, sailed through MOT. Just waiting to hear from the garage if a coil spring has gone....first time I’ve had to have it in the garage other than for service/MOT/routine stuff. An excellent build...unlike some reviewers I have no problems with door seals, draughts etc. When making the decision to buy this one, we looked at a whole range of similar age/newer vans, the worst being the transit, which for 2 years newer was rusting from the inside out! My only fault with this one..the colour! It’s white!
Submitted: 17/02/2011 15:15:10 | ID: 7122
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Car went back to Arnold Clark today for starter to be replaced, received phone call this afternoon to say starter replaced but car still making same noise. Have been told it is the battery. On picking up car asked to see Service Manager, a bit spineless he wouldn’t come out of his office to speak to me, but left it to the admin clerk to explain that the battery was the problem and this is not covered on the Warranty. I told clerk that I would get the battery checked independantly because I did not think this was the problem. Then discoverd that the battery I had was not the problem but that it needed a more powerful battery!!!! Why would I have to pay for this? As far as I’m concerned this is a fault with the car. Anyway reading comments on this page this would solve the problem as other people have tried this. I left the garage under no illusions that this was not one and I was not going to let this run on until the Warranty expires, the car is going back to the garage tomorrw, I do not want this car back I will be phoning Finance Company tomorrow.
Submitted: 17/02/2011 15:01:15 | ID: 7118
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My 1997 2.5 TDI camper has never missed a beat. Apart from servicing and a few consumables I have not really spent on it. I used to be a car trader and I am convinced that cars made in the mid 90’s seem to be decent quality. As the years have moved on manufacturers have cut cost by using cheap parts. And this shows as the later Ducatos seems to be riddled with problems. Of course this is just my opinion
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We have just bought a 1997 Ducato and were wondering is it normal for the fan to take three hours to stop after a long drive? - Pearl Gibson from Northern Ireland
Submitted: 17/02/2011 14:52:55 | ID: 7116
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Bought this lump in August last year, 6 weeks ago the car sometimes would not start, grinding noise when ignition switched on, I sometimes have to wait 10 or 15 minutes for car to eventually start. Returned car to Arnold Clark I told them it sounded like the starter, left the car in the garage for a whole day, still not repaired when I went to collect it, but they said it was an ignition switch problem. Had the switch done yesterday went to collect the car and guess what it made the same noise and would not start. Needless to say not happy, went back into service department told them it was just the same, more or less told yes they had heard the noise too but it should only happen every now and then, get used to it!!!. Spoke to the salesman who sold me the car and told them I would be returning car to them (car still has 6 weeks warranty left) as I need a reliable car. Sales back on phone to me saying they would take the car back and replace starter. I do not think this will work either as have read comments on Fiat forum and it seems like this a fault with the car. WHY WHY WHY has Fiat not recalled or sorted this problem out? I have also let the dealership know about comments on web about this car.
Submitted: 13/02/2011 09:43:41 | ID: 7095
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Had the car from new, various faults, left hand indicator won’t go off after going around corners, was told the same fault was on the last model. Water leaked onto the parcel shelf, this fault was put right by the garage under the warranty. Wiper blade rubber wore down, so that the metal scratched the window so badly I had to have the windscreen replaced. And the latest fault is the power steering... £600/ 800 to fix, what a shock, and again the same fault apeared in the old models. Have now let the car go after 4 years and have moved back to a vauxhall, never to buy a Fiat again.
Submitted: 12/02/2011 22:31:27 | ID: 7085
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Bought my Doblo with delivery miles (1k) last year, although the van was almost 2 years old it was a demonstrator with only 1000K on the clock in mint condition... it has the electric pack but no air con. the driving position is high up but with an awkward accel pedal which makes you leg and foot ache. Beware of the tiny 1.3 diesel, it is weedy and breathless and is no where near as economical as Fiat claim...if you drive in the middle or outside lane of the motorway expect around 35mpg which is appalling for such a small engine, uphill you will need to stir the gears and floor the accelarator to hold 70mph.. if you pootle along at 60 mph you will see around 47mpg at best. my advice is go for the bigger diesel engine, the van is way too big for such a tiny engine. Otherwise the little van is fun and a good workhorse, unlike the comment obove it does not qualify for the ’car derived’ status...it is over the weight limit so don’t get caught out!
Submitted: 11/02/2011 15:58:09 | ID: 7065
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Where can I start with this; I will never while I can make choices buy another Fiat as long as a live!! I bought my Fiat ducato 30swb Multijet 2.2 100BH from new, and I’ve lived to regret doing that everyday. Within in one year it had been in for 12 recalls. From the wiper motor to rusting injectors (£200 each), also the jet washers they blow out once every year I now have to superglue them in! I have had one new complete engine wiring loop, and just today after only 33k a brand new clutch £420. The EGR valve is now playing up £300 to replace. The side door does not lock properly without having to push the top right hand corner to make it click, also the back left door has to be slammed to make that shut at the top. The glove box has broken at the bottom due to it coming open on it’s own while driving, the CD player broke. The bonnet does not open properly, the left hand corner hits the wiper arm and takes the paint off. The back door hinges are becoming difficult to open due to the spacers wearing out. IF YOU BUY A FIAT DUCATO YOU WILL LIVE TO REGRET IT!
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Hi just read your post and was wondering if you have managed to get all these problems fixed. Our company bought three of these vans brand new the same year. We have experienced the exact same problems as yourself, mostly which we have had to pay at the expense of ourselves. Contacted Fiat regarding these faults and got nowhere basically told us these are wear and tear and not covered. We are still paying finance for these! I contacted Watchdog but heard no response. I was wondering if you have done anything regarding your van, and if we all get together and complain about same faults, surely they will have to do something. Thanks - Mandy Ure from Aberdeenshire
Hi Mandy, I’m paying for all these faults myself, the last one to be done free was the loom! Now the EGR Valve is really bad, all I can say is get rid soon as you can! - Darren Leach from Nottinghamshire
I am all for going to Watchdog. My vehicle has had a new engine, new loom, new headlamps (water ingress) two new heater motors etc etc etc. I was always told "this is the first time we have had this happen". Bullsh*t! Let’s go for it! - Graham Brown from Norfolk
Submitted: 11/02/2011 15:48:23 | ID: 7062
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Love this car!!! Bought it in April 2009 and still enjoy driving it, have had my fair share of problems though. On the day I purchased the car I hadn’t gotten home, which is approx a mile from the garage and the demister blowers packed in, took it straight back to the Fiat approved garage and was told I had bought it under trade sale as I traded my old car in and they would not fix the problem so I lived without them ’til the bad weather set in and then had to go and get it fixed (they ended up fixing it for free because the receptionist slipped up about being aware of the problem when the car arrived in the garage before I bought it), happy with this I then got about 5 month free of any problems and now the boot light has packed in (apparently this is because of water in the locking mechinism on the boot lock). The driver’s door now only opens from the outside, the horn requires some force to operate now, the gear box has an oil leak and the cd player only plays cds that it likes! When I get all this fixed the car will be a pleasure to drive once again. All the problems I have been told are common faults which is disappointing as I think Fiat has for once come up with an appealing car!! Also if I had test driven the car before I bought it I would have gone with a more powerful engine the 1.2, which is to me greatly underpowered for the size and weight of the car. For instance if I’m on the motoway and wanting to overtake a lorry I HATE being flashed out because I know the car will struggle to gain speed and holds up the traffic in the other lane whilst it creeps past the lorry, but you do get used to the power and speeds this car is capable of.
Submitted: 09/02/2011 21:29:57 | ID: 7049
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A rare car in Ireland, but that adds to Its appeal, wonderful to drive and great on diesel 45/55mpg. Problems: A few minor ones, a knocking when going over pot holes, haven’t got it looked at yet, but the pot holes here are huge! So no surprises the car has a knocking sound. Plenty of leg room, comfortable to drive, good sound system and great diesel engine. Boot is big enough, would I buy another, Yes... Drives better than the new Passat and is a cool looker too.
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Just check the locking system of the luggage door for knocking problems - Raffaello from Italy
Submitted: 08/02/2011 21:53:43 | ID: 7043
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I bought a six berth suntor a year ago, aprox 25-28mpg, sometimes worried about getting done for over speeding! Service it every year or six thousand mls, no problem at all, very happy.
Submitted: 06/02/2011 21:00:14 | ID: 7027
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I bought the Stilo less than 2 yrs old with 37000 klm on the clock, the car has 17inch wheels, skyroof, climatecon, much needed in spain. Bought from a Merc dealer, brill sound system, brill diesel motor, uses no oil between changes, very torque and quick, fastest car I’ve ever had, (I car rallied in the 80s.) I’m 68 now, since I was 17, 60 +cars have gone through my hands, none as fast as the Fiat. Fairly comfortable, a bit noisy on the m/way other than the usual, battery went dead on me twice, which was a new one, ok since. Tyres, oil changes,new rear susp’ bushes 300euroes, the temp gauge and the fuel gauge packed in, need to change all clocks, at 400 euros,forget it! You can access how many miles left in the tank with the right hand stork button. Nice looking car, I would not put it in a garage unless absolutley essential being a diy guy, of course not every one can do it themselves, you need to find a garage that doesn’t rip you off. Every garage in Europe has the legal right to download all info relating to any car, not just the dealership,if you want to buy one get it checked by the aa or rac, even if it costs you. Happy motoring!
Submitted: 28/01/2011 10:05:56 | ID: 6970
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A 51,000 mile car that has had so many problems,it’s unbelievable; new crank sensor, new cam sensor, new cam belt, new lamda sensors and it still runs like a bag of spanners! It won’t tick over and keeps cutting out, and yes the throttle body has been cleaned, twice, so clean you could eat you dinner off it. My local mechanic is now saying it is the throttle body with all it’s electronic gizmo’s on it. Yes when it was running right it was sweet and fast too, but too many people seem to be having major problems with these hgt’s now, there are too many electronic devices to go wrong on them. I woundn’t encourage anyone to get a Punto hgt, but that’s my view, I’m sure there are lots of people out there getting smiles per miles out of their hgt.
Submitted: 26/01/2011 16:46:24 | ID: 6955
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When I first saw this car, I had to have it! What a mistake!! I thought I’d be safe buying a 5 year old car with only 21000 on the clock I have the Fiat punto Active sport 1.2 and have had nothing but trouble. Firstly the airbag lights came on and under warranty I kept taking it back to the garage where they fixed it, a week later it would come on again, this happened numerous times! Other problems: gearbox leaked oil over the clutch, brake pads, discs, wipers, exhaust falling off, overheating fan....the list is endless! I’m too scared to drive further than 40 miles in it as the fan tends to not kick in properly. Only positive thing is when it is actually working it is a nice smooth easy drive!
Submitted: 22/01/2011 21:40:27 | ID: 6933
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I have just recently purchased a Grande Punto sporting T-Jet and I absolutely love it. However, after about a week, a warning appeared stating low oil pressure stop and turn off engine. This only occurred when going round a sharp bend or a roundabout. Then, last night, it happened everytime I turned a corner. I pulled into a garage to check the oil level and it was bone dry! It was supposedly serviced and checked before I drove it out of the showroom, so I was a bit baffled. I filled it with some oil, but came out this morning and it had subsequently leaked it all over the road!! Maybe some technician hasn’t put the sump plug back in correctly?, just waiting for them to recover it. Not a happy bunny, but I still love the car. Watch this space!!
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Update: Just got the car back from the dealers, problem was a faulty oil filter seal. Matter dealt with quickly and efficiently so can’t complain too much. Car is much smoother and quiter, fingers crossed no more problems : ) Ollie Watson from Essex
Do they call you Oily now Ollie? This issue happened to me when a car was returned from service and I found they hadn’t tightened the filter properly. Anyway my wife has just bought a Fiat Punto 1.4 5 door (our first ever Fiat purchase in 25 years of driving) we collect it on Feb 19th and following negotiation I got the brand new car for under 7k. and two coffees, I hope it goes well. PS 10/10 for Sales service Arnold Clark Falkik - Paul Greig from Lothians
Submitted: 20/01/2011 15:17:38 | ID: 6917
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This van is totally rubbish. Do not buy one!
Submitted: 19/01/2011 21:28:56 | ID: 6901
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Bought for my wife in 2008. Paid a fortune to have it serviced including cam belt. Excellent mpg and general running cost. Electrics not great. Finish not great but hey it was very cheap. Have driven Volvos for 20 years at 22 mpg. Will try to find another.
Submitted: 17/01/2011 19:02:12 | ID: 6891
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Biggest load of rubbish I’ve ever owned!! The engine is powerfull but it’s made alot of funny noises which scares me, also a few times I’ve gone to brake quite hard and the pedal was very hard :/ Electrically it’s not fantastic either, the windows have refused to go up on many occasions and whilst driving along the lights automatically cut out on me during the bad snow in Dec 2010. My old Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi 110 Rapier was a nicer car to drive (more comfortable, more refined). Also the Peugeot was a far roomier car inside and in the boot. Once August 2011 comes I will most definately be going and buying a new 308. Wouldn’t buy a Fiat EVER again! Fix It Again Tomorrow!
Submitted: 14/01/2011 21:47:19 | ID: 6859
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I live (out of choice) on a mountain in rural wales, access to me is via a poorly maintained lane much at 1 in 4. Recent winters have seen me either snowed or iced in leading me to look at 4x4 vehicles. There are lots out there and having rejected the un-green ones, the pretend ones, the expensive ones and the trendy ones I was down to the Panda 4x4 Cross. Following further research into this vehicle I decided to purchase and was lucky to get one of the last new ones in the country. It is an amazing vehicle. Recent snow and ice has shown how capable a vehicle it is. I spent 30 years driving Landrovers (mainly off road) as an estate manager so I know the limitations of even the best 4x4’s, given that, I think the Panda Cross ticks all of the boxes and more. There is a long list other good points including price, economy, build quality, relaxing to drive, it fits the bill as far as I’m concerned. Well done Fiat but you need to keep making them, and do a better job at promotion. This vehicle must be your best kept secret.
Submitted: 12/01/2011 21:51:26 | ID: 6846
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We own 5 fiat vans, in a few weeks or months we will own none. They are the c**ppiest vans you can waste your hard earned money on. Don’t fall for the cheap price trick, it costs you dearly. Downtime = lost time + no income... it’s a no brainer DO NOT BUY ONE EVER.
Submitted: 12/01/2011 21:17:49 | ID: 6840
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Keep well away from the Fiat Scudo up to now I’ve had more faults than I care to remember at the time of this letter I’ve spent over 5 grand on repairs. Please take my advice, don’t go anywhere near it.
Submitted: 12/01/2011 20:59:17 | ID: 6836
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First new van ever, worst buy of my life! Very light use hovers etc. turbo noisy after 24000 Fiat said not to replace it till its noisier! Then turbo blows at 26000 taking the engine with it, nice. Fiat said 3rd year so turbo not covered but engine is? And as turbo blew engine go away. Cost £600 for a turbo and £2000 for engine £500 fitting and now air suspension has gone. Pure trash!
Submitted: 11/01/2011 21:54:12 | ID: 6830
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This is the first Fiat I Have bought. Second hand, at 42000 miles. Really good drive particularly on long runs. Just recently driven over 800 miles in 24 hours, very comfortable. However, I am disappointed in the first month the head gasget had to be replaced, £800 by Fiat, my cost. It’s now 9 months since purchasing the vehicle and both front suspension springs along with shocks have been replaced, £320. Whilst on the "long run" the rear suspension broke, another £130. I did not replace the shocks!! I wonder what is next?
Submitted: 08/01/2011 21:22:08 | ID: 6816
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This van brought new in 2007 is the most APPALLING excuse for a van ever produced by a totally rubbish excuse for a vehicle manufacturer. I am nearing retirement and purchased this van to see me through to the end of my working life, air conditioning didn’t work, state of the art blue and me now broken, rear doors both fallen off, exhaust flexible connection replaced, broken again, but that is nothing compared to the engine management problems, every 3 months a new problem exists. And back to the garage on a low loader for another egr valve /wiring loom, 3 now in total. I have given up and just let the pile of crap rev its guts out. I have owned Ford, Nissan, Renault, and regret the day that I was enticed into buying this Junk. Do not ever consider this van, you WILL REGRET IT!
Submitted: 07/01/2011 21:45:25 | ID: 6805
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We have a Ducato swb van and for the money, it’s been pretty good. It’s done 98,000 miles. We bought it new and quickly found the Fiat dealer to be very, very poor. Instead we had all service work done by our local garage. The only faults have been a front wheel bearing. This was changed by Fiat under warranty but was not much better, I got the local garage to sort it and all is now well. At 80,000 miles we had new glow plugs and have just put a new battery on last week. Have fitted deadlocks and an alarm as Fiat security and door locks are no good at all. The van is good on fuel and handles well. We also have a 2007 ci motorbike based on the 2.3jtd Fiat. It’s done 15,000 miles and seems fine so far. It did have a new battery before we bought it. It drives very well and does well on fuel. I will not let Fiat near it and all repairs will be done by the guy who looks after our other van. The vans are certainly no worse than other makes I have had in the past. You have to remember they are cheap to buy.
Submitted: 04/01/2011 18:49:10 | ID: 6779
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I bought one of this LEMONS new in 2006, to start work in my own Business. Before 2000KM, it would not start, Starter motor gone. During Warranty (3 years) I needed another 2 Starter motors replaced. Not to mention ,the Problems with the sliding Door!! Won’t close properly, and holding all the weight of the door just in the middle Rail, what a Joke. All the Parts that hold or close the Sliding Door, have been replaced now 6 times!!! Oh, not to forget the Heater Coil, which is under the dashboard. To replace it, the dashbord has to come out. This cost me around $1600. With it comes the inconvenience to have your Work interrupted all the time. Never, ever FIAT.
Submitted: 03/01/2011 20:52:31 | ID: 6766
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I brought my Fiat Panda 1.1 eco in 2009. So bad on fuel I sent it back to fiat three months after getting it as I was only getting 20 miles to the gallon, only to be informed by them to run it for 1,400 miles to get 40 to the gallon. It’s not what they in formed me when I bought the car, I was told that I would get 65 to the gallon after running it in. Well I’ve done just under 5,000 miles and still only getting 20 miles to the gallon. Also if stuck in traffic like the M25 for two hours it’s bad on backside when passanger. I wish now that I’d never gone for the scrapage deal and kept my Vauxhall estate diesel 1998, more comfortable and more to the gallon. Not a very happy person!
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Totally agree, Edward. We are all been taken in and trying to part-ex it is even worse news, mate. Fiat’s people should be shot for this. Got more out of my P-reg Fiesta with 157k on the clock. Complete con - Tony from Staffordshire
Submitted: 30/12/2010 21:33:24 | ID: 6744
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Bought brand new in May 2004 and so far expenses to date include:- off side track rod end, 50 euros, fitted myself, clean egr valve and fit 2 new aircooler breather pipes, garage (non Fiat) 125 euros. Looking at replacing engine mount(s) in the near future. Thats it in 6 years apart from fuel, uses 5.2 litres per 100 klms, tyres (yes the front tyres do scrub off fast, the knack is to move them onto the rear to enance their life) and yes, the English tyres do last longer than Spanish obtained ones, on average twice as long. Serviced regularly and oil changed every 5000klms. The car goes very well, is fast when speed is required during overtaking, turbo acceleration gives you confidence, comfortable but does tend to roll a little on tight corners, suspension could made been made a little firmer. Every gadget you could reasonably require is included including A.C. and climate control. My friends highly impressed, one of them after just one trip in mine went out and bought a similar model. If they still made this model I would have no hesitation in purchasing again. And whats more, the wife loves it! For me, the best car I have owned. Previous cars being Fords, Volvos and Saabs, all bought from new.
Submitted: 29/12/2010 21:44:37 | ID: 6742
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Worst buy ever! Faults: Clutch, gearbox to be replaced, both electric windows are broken, water leaking from radiator, problem with back doors; must key them to make sure they don’t open in transit. Fed up totally with this lump of scrap! It’s now sitting idle for the last year at the side of my house, can’t be bothered with it any more.
Submitted: 27/12/2010 22:19:00 | ID: 6736
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After approx 55 miles nightmare began; fuel pump, rollbar, egr valve, new turbo, power steering pump, oil leaks, window pulleys snapped. Paisley dealership blamed contaminated supermarket fuel at start to buy time as warranty only had 2 months left. Total rip off, never buy Fiat!
Submitted: 27/12/2010 22:09:55 | ID: 6733
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Good sized, but rather ugly, estate car, has loads and loads of extras. I really love the clever, fully automatic dual climate control system and the massive glass, slide back roof, together with the instant trip computer information it gives you. Economy is good at between 45 and 60 mpg, depending on what you’re doing and how carefully you’re trying. It’s a Fiat and I hear a lot of people mutter about possible future reliability problems. I’ve had one or two issues in the 2 years and 30,000 miles of ownership, but nothing major. My biggest hate are the silly, very wide, 17 inch low profile, alloy shod, tyres that this version comes with. It gives a choppy, tyre noisy ride. This car is never going to be a handler, so why did Fiat bother? Am tempted to fit ’normal’ tyres and steel wheels instead. I find that sometimes the engine can feel like it’s coking up when underway, even on a motorway, where I have to dip the clutch, floor the accelerator and let its revs chuggingly increase until it clears itself, leaving behind a black smoke cloud, then it’s fine for another hour or three.
Submitted: 27/12/2010 21:06:45 | ID: 6723
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I have a 2001 punto 1.9td jtd elx. I am currently averaging 61mpg, it’s done 130768miles and is very, very reliable. It doesn’t use any oil, water, it’s got a lot of room for a small car (2door). This is my 5th Punto. All it’s cost is tyres and a pulley and steering motor. I am a very happy Punto owner.
Submitted: 27/12/2010 20:51:31 | ID: 6719
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Fantastic liitle car brilliant in deep snow and we have had a lot of bad weather recently. I am averaging 54mpg (diesel), so it is also cheap to run. Got a pre registered new car 4 miles on clock for £11000 so i think it is great value. You can’t seem to get them at the moment due to higher demand and a new engine is out soon so delays in the factory. If you get one you can’t go wrong, well done Fiat.
Submitted: 24/12/2010 15:55:38 | ID: 6714
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Bought my Scudo in Feb 08, wish I’d bought a skip from the demolition company across the road. Scudo looks nice, drives well, that’s where it ends. 2 weeks out of 2 yr warranty EGR valve went causing £730 damage. Roll bar knackered, all the dogs chase me because the turbo whistles that much, passenger seat has collapsed, only gets light use. Paint is cracking across all of the panel seams. Van has only done 35000 miles and is well looked after. Fiat should be ashamed of themselves, product reliability is a joke. This van is only good if you are hiring one for a week, any longer you are wasting your time. Don’t bother ringing Fiat UK, it won’t get you anywhere. Save the price of the call and put the lottery on, you have better odds of success.
Submitted: 20/12/2010 08:39:17 | ID: 6677
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I brought this car from the dealership with 300 miles on the clock in 08. The first 6 months I would have told anyone to buy the car BUT as soon as my first year warranty ran out the problems started! Firstly, the steering rack started to grind, then the back door would no longer open. These were fixed quickly under my warranty and apologies were given. About 6 weeks later the the blowers began to crackle and the door rattled in the rear and front drivers door - this time the issue was my shocks, so they were replaced. However, once my shocks were replaced suddenly a serious rattle began and if turned the corner I was grinding, I took it back, once again, apparently this time the bolts had all come unstuck in my engine and bonnet. The excuse given "someone must have removed the bonnet and not put the bolts back in properly" - well you are the only people who have worked on my car and you have made a fortune from doing it! Can I just point out in order to recieve free warranty labour I have to travel nearly 90 miles and I live in a major city. Things seemed to be fine and then winter arrived and the inside of my car kept on freezing up. My car is only a year old - this should not happen! A weather test was booked and cancelled and rebooked and cancelled. I cannot get the FIAT dealership to deal with this issue and now I am in my third year and I have to pay £560 to replace the seal around my front window. Seriously, DO NOT BUY this awful, Fix It Again Tomorrow (FIAT) car!!!!! I have lost faith in buying new cars, especially from this dealer, but if I sell I will lose over £6k and I am not willing to pay £2k a year leasing fees.
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Surely a Grande Punto 2008 has three years warranty. Well mine did anyway - Peter Steele from Oxfordshire
Submitted: 05/12/2010 13:07:28 | ID: 6613
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Don’t buy one! Not worth the money! I ain’t even got time to list the problems!!
Submitted: 28/11/2010 21:11:11 | ID: 6584
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Damn good van up to now, 65,000 miles on the clock, it gets hard pushed all the time and fully loaded. Just had all the belts done. Very good on fuel and fast off the mark, it bombs around rural Scotland day in and day out. The only faults I have had up to now is possible rear suspension leak but not yet confirmed and it had to go back in on recall for a light adjustment, but that’s it, you can’t expect them to run without something going wrong. I would buy another one no problem when the time comes.
Submitted: 27/11/2010 15:13:20 | ID: 6573
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Hi there my Panda multijet is 3 years old today 26th Nov 2010, and covered 43000 miles, and what a great little car this is, its toured Scotland with 4 adults plus luggage, its up down motorways Leeds to Newcastle, then Leeds to Scottish Borders, no trouble at all. Around town after around 3000miles when fuel consumption and oil usage stabalised has returned 56mpg. If I drive not as heavy footed can actually touch 60mpg. Went from Leeds to Bridlington during summer, steady 50mph, brimmed tank at start, then brimmed back up in Bridlington, returned 78mpg. Would buy another with no worries, certainly better than our Toyota lease cars at work...always something not right with them.
Submitted: 27/11/2010 15:05:41 | ID: 6570
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I own a Fiat Ducato 130 based motorhome. The brand name being Caravan International. Last September I was travelling to The Czech Republic, passing through Germany, when the rear nearside wheel bearing collapsed, causing extensive damage to the hub assembly and the brake-system. All in all the cost of repairs was some £1,150.00. The vehicle at the time of the incident was 2 years and 34 days old. Yes, you’ve got it, Fiat have just dug their heels in and refuse to consider any form of help, I have spoken with technical advisors from the RAC and the Caraven Club, and a comapny of bearing manufacturers who express surprise at a wheel bearing giving up the ghost after such a short time, the recorded mileage at the time of repair was 19323. Fiat are a poor example when it comes to customer care, however I have to say that the dealership in Germany was first class and they had me back on the raod within 24 hours. I also have nothing but praise for the dealership in the uk that services my vehicle (Stoneacre of Wrexham) The are very good and helpful, they in fact suggested I should register the vehicle to have the gear box modified to overcome the judder which is so common on this vehicle. It was registed and the job completed within two weeks with only two days off the road. Judder now extinct. So Fiat themselves leave a lot to be desired, their agencies appear to be carrying the burden of a poor parent company.
Submitted: 27/11/2010 14:42:39 | ID: 6564
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Bought second hand in 2007, was one year old. After 1 year the air bag came on and wouldn’t go out, was told not under warranty, even though the warranty book said it was, dealer said that the warranty isnt worth anything! Wont buy brand new from them then! Got in touch with head office and they agreed to do the work as a gesture of goodwill!! Problems: Driver door doesn’t have its internal stops, to stop it swinging right open; Squeaking coming from rear wheel, sounds like a bearing? Water trapped in spot light; vanity light stuck on, had to disconnect it. I know compared to everyone else these problems are minor, but had to add my info too. Good points: Good mpg, fast, perfect size for window cleaning, reliable (so far).
Submitted: 24/11/2010 21:48:40 | ID: 6560
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Without doubt the worst purchase I ever made. When it worked, everything was ok, but the faults kept mounting and recurring as time passed. Do not buy a second hand model no matter how cheap.
Submitted: 18/11/2010 10:30:14 | ID: 6523
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I brought the car 3 months ago and although I’m upset with the dealer for reason this has nothing to do with the car. After driving a heavy ASTRA for years I love the Fiat Bravo, can’t believe its only a 1.4 ( even with 150BHP) as it goes so fast and responds well. Only one issue is going over bumps or parking on kerb, the underside of the car is so low it scrapes and bangs. I go sooooo slowly now over bumps and on two wheels where you can..... secondly I was disappointed by the fuel, I town drive and at £60 a tank I expected to get more than 300 miles, which is what i get at a push. I’ve tried to drive it slowly and economically but its still low milage and quite expensive on the fuel consumption. My 1998 Astra used to give me 400! So don’t buy it if you can’t afford the fuel!!!
Submitted: 16/11/2010 19:43:23 | ID: 6512
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I love my little car, I have had her since Feb of this year. She’s never let me down yet. However, I am slighly concerned about the steering, it’s very, very light. Also if it’s been raining or roads are wet it does tend to glide a little. I am a a bit worried about my first winter. I have to be in work at 6am so roads are scarey. Wish me luck!
Submitted: 08/11/2010 21:41:51 | ID: 6465
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Bought second hand 1 year ago. Superb value when compared to similar 2nd hand vehicles (Modeo Volvo were £2.5-£3k dearer) Confortable, quick and fairly good on fuel. I have had a couple of problems but both fixed by dealer (under warranty). Excellent service from these. The car is unusual, its fairly rare and its very spacious. Model 1.9TD Eleganza. Will keep this car.
Submitted: 08/11/2010 21:31:23 | ID: 6463
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Generally I’m very happy with my Croma, 100,000km on the clock and the only problems have been the boot release broke twice but covered under warranty, use the remote and not the button on the boot and you won’t have a problem. The most luxurious FIAT I’ve ever driven and really comfortable for long journeys. Fuel consumption is very good for such a big car, I’m getting c.16km/l average and >19km/l @ motorway speeds of 120km/h. I hear everyone in UK complain about their FIAT dealers but in Ireland they’re absolutely excellent, courteous, professional and all problems are sorted under 4yr warranty so I can’t complain.
Submitted: 08/11/2010 21:21:32 | ID: 6461
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Our van had one owner, 5000 miles, been a big load of c**p, in garage for gearbox but no parts available.
Submitted: 06/11/2010 20:38:52 | ID: 6452
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Had the car 3 years now and what a ton of problems. The passenger window failed to open from the driver’s side, I was quoted over R3000 about $375 to change the button which was supposedly faulty. I told them to leave it. One day I was bored at home and decided to check the wires. There was a broken wire which I connected and the window was working fine. There was nothing wrong with the button. Then the door handles failed, then the dashboard lights. The rear seat belt lock is broken. Just did a 120 000km (75000miles) service which cost R3800($475). A month after that service the fanbelt snapped. They’re telling me it will cost R3800 to fix cause the alternater seized up. Tomorrow I’m going there to take it. Told them not to fix it. I have lost trust in this dealer and the car. Once I have it fixed, I’m getting rid of this s**t.
Submitted: 04/11/2010 18:00:59 | ID: 6437
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Bought second hand 9 months ago, at 60,000 miles and can’t honestly fault it, averages 50mpg around town 60 on a run, comfortable, handles well, fair amount of room with rear seat down, would buy another.
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The guy who wrote this report must be selling Pandas for a living. 60 mpg around town?! I don’t think so - Richard Paterson from Devon
I agree, there’s no way you get 60 miles. If so you’re invited to come over and see me and I will give you a fiver towards your petrol - Tony S from Staffordshire
Submitted: 24/10/2010 22:05:38 | ID: 6368
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Hi to all Fiat Stilo owners! I imported my Stilo 1.6 3drs dynamic from England in 2005. It looks and sounds very nice till 6 months ago.At that time started to show wrong warning messages and I paid a lot of money to the FIAT garage in Nicosia whithout any result. Sometimes the engine refused to start. This happens with out any reason and it starts after 2 or 3 attemps. Now the main problem with my Stilo is the air recycle system, which does not work and unfortunatley for me remains in the on position leaving the Cyprus warm air entering the cabin and makes my life hell. I appealed to FIAT and the answer was to put clothes inside the vents to avoid the very warm air. My opinion? VERY NICE CAR WITHOUT SUPPORT FROM FIAT IN EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM. They seem to think that they don’t owe anything to the people who have paid for their car.
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Mario, I have the same problem and unfortunately there is no solution, even in Italy. They don’t pay due care and atttention to anything. My advice to you is to sell the Stilo, at any price, and to buy a ... CAR. I wish you all the best - Themis from Athens
Submitted: 24/10/2010 21:38:51 | ID: 6367
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Bought this MPV because of its value for money and front passenger foot space (my wife is disabled and the Berlingo was rubbish in this regard), and I have not been disappointed. In just over 3 years I have covered well over 40,000 miles both in the UK and abroad without even a hint of a problem. The dealer, GMD Durham have been spot on. The most annoying things about the car are the non-swivelling sun visors which are very poor in low level sun situations, and the rather van-like ride for rear seat passengers. Would I buy another? Probably, if I get a similar purchase deal.
Submitted: 21/10/2010 19:04:39 | ID: 6356
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An absolute pile of s**t! I don’t have the time to write a list of faults. Palmers in Watford my local Fiat dealer are as unhelpful as it is possible to be. Never again will I get any Fiat.
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I was thinking at buying a Ducato. Not now - Gerry from Ireland
Submitted: 21/10/2010 18:17:46 | ID: 6353
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Just bought, supplied with factory air suspension. First trip resulted in a twisted airbag on the rear and it is now back with Fiat...
Submitted: 20/10/2010 21:12:09 | ID: 6350
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Had my 08 Fiat Scudo over a year now and do a lot of mileage with it have no complaints at all, great space in back, fuel economy very good, very little road noise, lovely to drive, only had to change one tyre so far and front bushings but no problems to report. It’s still on the same brakes from new, but will change these before Xmas.
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I have had my new 2008 combi for just 2 years. 2 new tyres (replaced with Pirellis). I have had 2 new anti-roll bars and the van is knocking again at 35,000 miles. This is not good enough, it gets only light private use, Fiat says it is not covered by third year dealer warranty. A nice van but I would not have purchased it if I had known about its inherant faults - Bill Brown from Yorkshire
Submitted: 19/10/2010 21:40:20 | ID: 6344
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Had my first anti roll bar replaced 15000 miles after reading reports it is clearly a design or build quailty problem. Do someting about it Fiat! Broke down last week and had to have the indicater switch assy replaced on 22,000 .. its my fault apparently as it was full of water (LIES!) The engineers at the local Fiat garage (Middleton ) will do anything for you as long as you pay their stupid labour charges! The warranty is a complete joke.
Submitted: 18/10/2010 22:30:17 | ID: 6340
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I bought a Citroen Jumper (Fiat Ducato) 3.0 160KS. The engine is a Iveco, towing 1000 rpm to 4000 rpm. Van goes 200 km/h at 3400 rpm, and consumption ranges from 6.5 l/100km to 9.5 l/100km. The engine is very quiet, the road speed of 180 km/h runs at 3000 rpm, This is definitely the best combination in history. I have already done 100,000 km, 3.0 and 2.3 is the best engine for the van. The suspension is very stiff and holds corners like hell. With the chip reaches an impressive 200 hp. Conclusion: It is an attractive (robust) design. I have nothing but praise.
Submitted: 17/10/2010 21:20:47 | ID: 6335
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This should be an excellent vehicle - the accommodation is good, it handles well, and on the 120 I can get up to 42 mpg on rural roads if the trip computer is accurate. However, reliability is another matter entirely - engine oil leaks, anti-roll bar, exhaust valve, tyre wear are all problems I have experienced. Fiat (and its partners at Citroen and Peugeot with the Dispatch and Expert both made in the same factory as the Scudo but badged differently) needs to take their heads out of the sand about this vehicle. Either there are serious defects with the vehicle or the standard of workmanship at the factory leaves a lot to be desired.
Submitted: 14/10/2010 23:22:50 | ID: 6318
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I had a Scudo for almost 3 years bought from new from Glyn Hopkins at Chadwell Heath. Noticed a problem that the tyres show excessive wear on the inside back wheels, reported this problem to the dealer and apparently they all do that and it is not a fault. Also after about 18 months black painted finish on various areas has started to peel/corrode, apparently that is trim and that is not covered under the warranty. Coming up to now 3 years of ownership the air con has stopped working and this is not covered under the warranty, apparently the warranty in the 3rd year only covers the engine and gearbox you have been warned.
Submitted: 10/10/2010 22:07:20 | ID: 6290
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I bought a Fiat Stilo multi WAGON 1.9 JTD MANUAL second hand from a garage, it goes like a rocket, really fast, it never lets you down, starts first time, very great on mpg.
Submitted: 09/10/2010 19:39:25 | ID: 6278
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If I could give it no stars I would. One month into owning the car it needed new breaks and the wipers stopped working. Both were repaired. Then for 6 months it was a good car, not the best handling, but goodish speed for a 1.2, quite nippy; then the problems started. Water pump blew, causing my engine to overheat, had to rebuild the engine £500. New tires, new exhaust after exploding pulling away at a roundabout. Wipers broken again. Constant airbag light on even after being fixed. Replaced a bulb, same bulb needs replacing again. Lock for back window broken. Suspension is going. City drive (I thought was meant to turn itself off over 5mph) stays on. I can’t have cold air on. lights, well I might aswell not have any, or even better just hold up the light from my phone as I drive. Then today, on my way home from work, flapping coming from my engine when I rev, as if it’s going to stall if I go below 2000rpm, engine jumping all over the place. I think more has been spent fixing the car than what I paid to buy it, and much more than what it’s worth now. I think sometimes they can just last with few problems but every now and again they go all wrong. I did not expect so much for a car that had only done 56,000 though. Positives -mpg was good however, often exceeded 50mpg, but average about 48/49 depending where abouts I’m driving drops to about 45 if I go into the town. Comfort, electric windows, built in CD player, the mpg/trip miles/ trip time/trip miles left on petrol etc counter is very handy, decent size inside space and boot, 2 cup holders. You get alot for the money and it can be a good car but I wouldn’t risk buying a Fiat again.
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2003 car is Mk2 - Mark Forrest from England
I had a mk1 Punto for 9 years and can say overall it was a good car. Wipers are poor and broke more than once but otherwise pretty good. The city steering in response to above comments switches off at 40mph not 5mph!! It’s designed for light use driving as well as parking and does work. Driving a Citroen C4 Coupe now which is a great car and has been reliable for past 2 years so will be replacing with another C4 Coupe - Mark from Yorkshire
Submitted: 05/10/2010 15:56:00 | ID: 6263
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This was hitting 85 on the M6, 4 people and luggage on board and I swear I was hardly touching the gas. It went everywhere and the steering fantastic and light. Only one thing, the gas cap is fiddly to lock at times.
Submitted: 04/10/2010 21:43:29 | ID: 6258
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Its cltuch and flywheel went at 60000 milage and now gear box problem on 65000 milage.
Submitted: 04/10/2010 21:13:26 | ID: 6253
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Got my 1.2 eco dynamic 30/6/2010, not impressed with fuel consumption, been on to Fiat say its what they expect but should increase after 3000 miles, just reaching 4000 no difference, anyone else having trouble? They don’t tell you this when purchasing, not impressed, good city car when concentrating on road and not fuel dials; what’s the point of cheaper road tax when it drinks petrol?
Submitted: 24/09/2010 21:55:01 | ID: 6186
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I have the same rear break pads problem. The fuel consumption is a little higher than the FWD Panda’s. Instead of icy roads if you want to go uphill in a very rainy slippery road buy this car! You never loose the control when the power distribution is 50/50 between front and rear wheels. However, you need high revs to catch the 50/50 beacuse the transmission fluid needs to get very hot. 35,000 kms and no noise coming from the engine or the other parts of the car. Use to have a Ford KA before this, KA has a incredible grip for that size car, but I never expected Panda to be so. Also the acceleration is not satisifying but if you are respectful to the speed limits, there is no problem with the car.
Submitted: 22/09/2010 15:29:27 | ID: 6176
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Ihave had it back with the dealer countless times. Last time a big engine job. I have done 1,200 kilometres and it has burned most of the oil in the sump. I tried trading it in but no one wants. They are having trouble with anti-roll bars, flywheels, side window water leaks, carbon build up in engine, egr valves. I will never buy again but can not even get rid of it.
Submitted: 21/09/2010 08:20:18 | ID: 6164
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Bought in May ’08’ with 23 miles on the clock, base model - didn’t want any toys!! Just turned 85000 miles which is 50/50 town and motorway. I am getting in excess of 70mpg if I can be bothered to sit at 55-65mph on the motorway, but am returning an average of 55mpg (1248cc diesel) overall!! I change oil and filter every 10000miles regardless and have no problems sourcing the right oil etc.. Gearchange not the greatest, Fiat dealer said quadrant was seized (after inspection), but I removed and greased now fine!! Trip computer does flash occasionally, but this occurs when operator a bit hasty with the ignition, turn off and back on after warning lamps extinguish solves, no problem! Fuel consumption does plummet when racing Porsches, but this is a little van and for me it does the job no complaints!!
Submitted: 20/09/2010 21:09:40 | ID: 6162
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Just to let everyone going to buy a Fiat Scudo know... Since my last views on the Scudo my major problems have gone up from 28 faults up to 31 faults. Yes, that’s 3 more in the space of 2 weeks - the latest faults have been the engine mounts have collapsed; the rear shockers have gone again (dealer shockers may I add) and I’d like to say, finally, but I am being optimistic - the cooler system is leaking oil again!
Submitted: 20/09/2010 09:03:35 | ID: 6158
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Although a great wee car, I had the same problems as John Russell above, After first year, rear brakes binding badly and loud squealing from them, they were ok after changing pads but have had the same problem every 12 months which must show some fault with design or manufacture. Otherwise very happy with car, bit slow on acceleration and very very small fuel tank, get about 40mpg which should really be better. This sounds more like a big moan but I love the wee car for all its faults and it is fantastic in the North Yorkshire Dales with our rotten roads and snow in winter. Buy one if you can, you will love it.
Submitted: 17/09/2010 21:53:05 | ID: 6142
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Punto is a very good car but the 1.2 8v engine kept having problems so I decided to change it to a 2.0 stilo engine and that hasn’t given me any problems at all. It is easy to modify and to insured and good fuel consumption.
Submitted: 09/09/2010 23:18:44 | ID: 6087
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I bought 2 Fiat Scudos in 2008, over a 2 year period they both were in Fiat for warranty work at least 7 times each, one of them there for 9 months. Both with the same problem. Had nightmares with both of them. Both broken down again with same problem, Fiat no help at all now out of warranty, even though it’s been a recurring prob from new. I would advise that you avoid Fiat vehicles like the plague!!!!!
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Just been looking to get a new van, thanks for your review. Just wondering, did you part-ex them to a dealer in Swindon as they told me? They have had 2 in recently from the same company wanting to trade up their vans, just really don’t want to or can’t afford to make a wrong purchase - Terry from Wiltshire
Submitted: 09/09/2010 23:02:57 | ID: 6083
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Avoid, has been broken for two years off and on, now dead! Will start and drive until you slow down and cuts out. Had 3 egr valves, 1 airflow meter, 1 fuel pressure regulator, 1 ecu upgrade and 100’s of trips to the garage. Now nothing and a few grand later. Hiring a van and am skint! What now? Any ideas???
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It sounds like your vacuum pipe is on the wrong way round - Tony Bevan from Essex
Submitted: 07/09/2010 22:53:18 | ID: 6068
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I bought my Fiat Scudo 120 minibus in 2008. I’ve had more problems, in fact 28 faults, firstly holes in the floor, intercooler, all the bushes, squeaky seats, clutch flywheel, steering rack, snapped wheel nut, paint peeling off, turbo replaced, diesel tank exploded, both sliding doors have come off, shattered wheel discs, gear box shattered from inside, oil pump replaced and there’s still major noises coming from the front. In my opinion I would stay well away from Fiat Scudos if you have any sense. Every Wednesday for just short of 2years the van’s been in the dealership for work to be done.
Submitted: 06/09/2010 22:48:52 | ID: 6067
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Bought this car Oct 2009 with 26000 miles on, after 3 months needed top end steering done 50/50 due to out of warranty good dealer. Now this year needed with 36000 mile new shocks, cost so far £450 and £350 in two years yuck, but would say engine good.
Submitted: 04/09/2010 21:35:22 | ID: 6051
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I bought a Fiat Scudo in January 2008 for business use and to be honest the vehicle is fantastic in size with loads of road and a good pay load. Its not a high vehicle, so easy to park in multi storeys with restricted head room for vehicles. The engine size is good and drives very well and is very economical on fuel. As well as all that it looks good and was relatively easy to sign write having large straight panels. The problems arise when the vehicle hits two years old. It has a full manufacturer’s warranty for two years and the third years warranty is only a dealer’s warranty which to be honest covers very little. My vehicle is two and a half years old and despite the vehicle only having done 60,000 miles and has one driver who does not drive the vehicle hard I have had to replace the master cylinder, the intercooler and the anti roll bar all at the same time. The dealer was very good but when I complained to Fiat all they would give was the parts for the master cylinder. Its natural wear and tear they told me. What a load of rubbish, no other commercial vehicle we have had has needed so many major parts at that age. Actually, we had a problem with the Doblo at just over two years old - the full linkage on the windscreen wipers had to be replaced, again normal wear and tear... I dont think so. So be warned, they are really great vans BUT unless Fiat gets to grips with their parts wearing out after two years don’t keep your van any longer than the maufacturer’s warranty period.
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Re Fiat and after sales service on a Fiat Multipla. I have a file full correspondence that I have accumulated with my on going battle with Fiat. I had problems far too numerous to mention with this brand new vehicle - mainly electrical I have to say. I eventually got in touch with Fiat Head Office in the UK. The letters I received from ’the big man’ painted a picture of a person who didn’t give a damn about his customers and I was treated with absolute contempt. We love the car itself but I have vowed never to buy another Fiat which is a pity because I really fancy the Scudo van. I arrived at this website hoping there would be some good reviews and that I had just been unfortunate with my dealings with Fiat, but I can see I’m not the only one who is disgruntled! Ivy Green from England
Submitted: 02/09/2010 15:06:42 | ID: 6042
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I bought a Fiat Scudo in November 2008 and up to now I’ve only had 27 faults with it - from the floor to the gearbox, cooler unit, seats clutch, shockers (all of them), doors, trackrods. The fuel tank exploded so I don’t recommend that anybody buys one. I ALSO FIND THE WARRANTY TO BE NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT’S WRITTEN ON - BASICALLY THE FIAT SCUDO IS C**P SO DONT TOUCH ONE
Submitted: 31/08/2010 14:08:23 | ID: 6028
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This is the best van on the road by far for style, performance, speed, payload, and superb fuel economy. As a courier have driven every van, big and small in the book, this is a serious workhorse and speed machine. Handles like a car, carries heavy loads evenly, with no roll. Fuel consumption is exceptional (without being chipped!) over 650 miles to a tank (mainly motorway) No difference in pulling uphill with a full load, it’s unbelievable! Doesn’t get blown all over the road like Sprinters do, in bad weather Perhaps has something to do with the 3 litre Iveco engine, 160bh and chassis! Good build quality and finish compared to Iveco. Not all the Ducato’s have this engine. However, there is a bad side, (thankfully only once), FIAT... Warranty and Customer Service is Non Existent Would buy this van again and again, just forget it when trying to deal with Fiat, you may as well tear up the Warranty
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I was recently gifted a 2001 Ducato Maxi - have taxed, MOT’d it and it’s absolutely great as you say to drive. One thing worries me. On starting off the back is very low and noisy overy bumps for about ten minutes. Please help, don’t like to think I’m driving it doing any damage - Marion Lloyd from England
Submitted: 25/08/2010 00:27:40 | ID: 5989
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This car ticks all the boxes for carrying and being versatile, very economical I had have mine since new traveled the continent every year and every year something happens.The turbo failed had to replace it and the catalytic complete exhaust, (not funny driving up the mountain roads at 20 mph). The next year the bearing on the drive shaft, the wiper mechanism had to be replaced, the clutch at 60k and finally I had to replace a head lamp bulb; the holder broke it cost £250 to replace then the radiator started to leak £350 to replace. The last MOT the rear spring bushes had to be replaced, oh no they come complete with the springs very expensive don’t have the bill in front of me. New battery. This car has been serviced at a Fiat franchise, oh yes it has covered 86k the body is in better condition than the mechanics, how can I sell this car with so many new parts on it?
Submitted: 25/08/2010 00:03:16 | ID: 5986
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Purchased van new in May 2007. I have to agree with pretty much every previous writer - great purchase price but boy-o-boy do you pay for it in the long run. Here’s a short list of problems; Engine management light on - water in fuel injectors. New EGR valve. Lumbar support in drivers seat broke in a matter of days. Misted up nearside headlight. C.D. player broken Rear door release buttons popped out 1st time used. New fuse box. Engine stalling whilst idling. Nothing covered on 3rd year of warranty. Local Fiat dealer a joke (a bad one). I’ve been out today a ordered a new V.W. van, pity the poor bloke who buys my trade in.
Submitted: 21/08/2010 21:50:15 | ID: 5961
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I bought the van in 2005 with 1800 miles on the clock. The week before I had drive tested a Ford Connect. I immediately liked the vehicle for all the reasons I discovered later, comfort, gutsy economy and handling. Only problem I have had was an airflow meter and SGR valve fault which caused black smoke and great loss of power. Quoted £200 plus to do the job. Unbelievably solved for about £10 with a bottle of Forte Diesel Treatment (regularly put this in the tank now) Only critiscm is the poor marker for 30 and 50mph as the speedo is marked 20, 40, 60, 80mph. Next van definitly a Fiat.
Submitted: 19/08/2010 20:55:16 | ID: 5956
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We have had this car from new, 3 years and 30,000 miles now. Despite the small engine, it keeps up easily with motorway traffic, and would sit at 80 all day, if that were legal :) Driving through central London, Birmingham and Liverpool quite often, the car is in its element. At low speeds it is really nippy. Nothing is perfect though, and there have been a couple of niggles, sorted under warranty. Two mirror-stalk covers fell off (the third one is a better fit), one breather pipe replaced by me and new brake pads to solve a graunching noise. Would we recommend it? Well, we are debating whether we can afford to buy a 1.4 Grande Punto Sound, and run 2 cars! Very pleased with ours, and would recommend them to anyone.
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Update to this review: 16 months on and we’ve done 39,000 miles. Still no problems, we’re very happy with the car. We did not buy a second Punto, due to job security worries, but otherwise would have done. These are great looking cars, without the artificial looking tacked-on grills of other cars, notably the 207 and Clio. The car has been used almost totally in town for the last year or so, hence the reduced mileage increase, and has been great. Recommended - Darren Owen from Flintshire
Submitted: 15/08/2010 10:38:58 | ID: 5918
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Best motor I’ve ever had. For the first time in years I don’t have to reverse my fat backside into the driver’s seat or climb and twist and other awkward stuff - there is so much room it’s fantastic, I can just step into the seat. The back end is so capacious it’s incredible. Coming up on 200k and the only problem I have had is tyres and brakes - but these are normal service items. Even fully loaded the Doblo has plenty of power under the bonnet to cruise all day on the motorway - and best of all, I can mix the fuel with old cooking oil - winter neat diesel, spring/autumn I fill the tank, run it for 50 miles then add a gallon of cooking oil. In warmer weather I run the motor for 100 miles and add 2 gallons. The oil is free but requires filtering and 3% unleaded adding. Around town, 45mpg, mixed, 50 mpg (and I don’t mess about on motorways). As for the problems with pedals, I take a size 14 shoe and wear toetectors when driving and have had no problems whatsoever. Fiat, if you read this - the next version of the Doblo diesel should be made to run on pure veg oil if we want. Perhaps also the gearing could be changed - maybe add a 6th gear? (It would just be nice to have lower revs at high motorway speeds). Oh, and the over screen shelf is nice but maybe a few more cubbies - under the seats? Behind / above the driver’s head? And how about opening up the acres of dashboard? There must be loads of empty, unused space there. Oh yes, and do away with the gearstick pod, just have it coming straight out of the dash - and put a louder relay on the indicators. A reversing camera as standard would also be nice (mine only cost £50 on eBay but is a real godsend when it comes to getting in and out of tight spots. Also fantastic when hooking up a trailer. (The doblo’s height and large mirrors makes it an ideal towcar for caravans).
Submitted: 10/08/2010 13:51:45 | ID: 5873
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Bought this vehicle with 20k miles on, now up to 45k and proving to be a good reliable car - was very pleased with the 4x4 capability in the last winter, good size, easy to drive in town and out, comfortable and not too bad on economy for a petrol 4x4 at just under 40mpg (mostly out of town). Downsides are bit noisy and not a lot of grunt up hills - but would buy again.
Submitted: 07/08/2010 20:42:37 | ID: 5855
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Nice economical and quiet car that we have had for a year (bought second hand). We found that the glove box was pretty minimal and the ride rather bumpy, because of what appears to be a stiff suspension. However, overall it is a nice car with excellent steering and air conditioning. The reversing sensors are a godsend.
Submitted: 28/07/2010 16:00:26 | ID: 5778
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The Fiat dealer was great, customer service centre c**p! The ’unlimited’ 2 year warranty is rubbish; clutch problem at 87.000 miles still under warranty was told by customer care centre that’s wear & tear so it’s not covered under unlimited warranty, total lies from Fiat. Their new ads should say "we have your money now don’t bother us anymore" and I’m being polite. If you have a brain then take my advice and don’t buy a Fiat Scudo. Infact let’s start a forum called ’Lets get back at Fiat for ripping us off!’
Submitted: 24/07/2010 13:15:27 | ID: 5743
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We purchased a New Fiat Ducato 160 Maxi extra long and high van with the Comfortmatic gearbox that we had converted into a motorhome of our design. We did have a few teething problems however the problems where promptly rectified under the warranty by a Iveco/Fiat dealer in Hildenbourgh, Kent. The dealer went out of the way to accommodate us and even lent us a small van! We have now covered almost 20k miles travelling around Europe and the vehicle has performed faultlessly. In my opinion a lot of the problems reported especially with motorhomes is because of the low vehicle specification of the base chassis. We ordered our vehicle on a 4 ton chassis with the 160 engine, self levelling air suspension, extra large wheels & increased load index tyres, climate control, light & rain sensor engine sump shield etc etc. As with most motorhomes on the road they are overweight, we had to have the GVW increased and re-taxed as a private HGV because of the fully laden weight. The vehicle is very stable on the road even with high crosswinds on motorways, in fact I now prefer to drive this rather than our car due to the ride, seats and the higher driving position. If you are buying a motorhome based on any vehicle manufactures chassis make sure that you go for the highest specification possible, you are asking for trouble with a small engine and standard suspension otherwise you are just asking for trouble. Also bear in mind 80% of motorhomes are built on a Fiat chassis therefore you are going to have a lot more feedback than for other manufactures.
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Fiat commercial vehicles are quite good value for money. I have had a Doblo for 4 years now and it’s the best car I’ve ever had, being utterly useful and also great in town. Sliding back doors, easy access, great turning circle, economical diesel engine and fantastic visibility - Ana Cuellar from United States of America
Submitted: 20/07/2010 21:38:04 | ID: 5721
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I got my Fiat Punto hgt 6 months ago, it is fast & reliable and gives a very thirsty 34mpg if I drive steady.
Submitted: 15/07/2010 14:13:59 | ID: 5670
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Didn’t drive the Fiat 500 but I was a front seat passenger in my friend’s little car; I have to say I was seriously impressed with the amount of room available. Four adults went on a walking trip and the car coped with accommodating all four, plus rucksacks in the boot without too many problems, and when you look at the exterior dinky proportions then I’m not sure how Fiat have done it. There’s a couple of handy storage areas too, like the flip lid front passenger seat with a storage area beneath. Great idea. All in all, it’s great to look at, it has a good economical engine in it, and a surprising amount of space front and back.
Submitted: 14/07/2010 16:18:39 | ID: 5665
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Purchased Scudo 2.0hdi taxi,io/11/2008, it is less than 2 years old, the following problems have occurred: Rear sliding door was pulled off by customer; New clutch after 30000 miles; 2 sets of anti roll bars fitted under warranty; Auxiliary belt frayed, new one fitted; Timing belt and water pump changed; Major problems with engine management, new egr valve fitted under warranty, the problem’s still there, now having 2 cats fitted at £1400. Also, 2 drive shafts done under warranty and by the way the cab has only done 55000 miles, could be all the time spent in the garage that has kept the mileage down! Also my earnings! I do not have a problem with the local dealer, they try their hardest to please but the Scudo taxi as a product is rubbish and I shall not be buying another.
Submitted: 13/07/2010 10:27:16 | ID: 5645
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Had this van for nearly two years, bought new on an 08 plate, now just coming up to 50000 on the clock, and can honestly say I have had no problems with it whatsoever. I have had it serviced every 12000 miles (not by Fiat, by a local garage (using Fiat spares of course)) and it still drives pretty much as per the day I picked it up from the dealer. Regularly has 3-400 kilos in the back of it as well. Has never broken down, refused to start or anything else and have not had to replace anything apart from service spares. Only slight niggles is the genuine service spares can be expensive (fuel filter £55!), the bonnet release is a bit temperamental and sometimes does not wwant to open, and the indicators self cancel far to easily meaning you constantly have to keep re indicating. Would definitely buy another one (if this one ever even gives up).
Submitted: 07/07/2010 14:06:11 | ID: 5596
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This has been a spacious, reliable, comfy and cheap to run motor. its got everything on it and everything works. Most importantly its got loads of grunt and still gives not bad mpg. Excellent!
Submitted: 06/07/2010 14:31:16 | ID: 5593
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A Wonderful little car. Ive had it for nearly 3 years and it has hardly cost me a penny just the usual service, mot and general wear and tear. I would recommend this car to anyone who wants a reliable and cheap runner. If it wasn’t for my expanding family I would not be getting a new car.
Submitted: 03/07/2010 17:42:16 | ID: 5568
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I’ve had two Doblo 1.9JTD vans an ’02’ orange one and a ’55’ white one. Great little engines easily cruise at 80 on motorways and have good acceleration. Only problem I had with the ’02’ was a clutch at 70k and some unusual handling - which I never got to the bottom of despite numerous attempts. Also door locks on Fiats are temperamental if not looked after. Did approx 15k in 12 months and replaced it with ’55’. So far I’ve had this one a year and done another 15k but in 9 months this time (I worked overseas the other 3) and it handles perfectly and is just as pokey as the earlier one. Definitely go for the 1.9jtd as the smaller engines are gutless (had a few hire doblos as well). Clutch has gone on this one as well (not me honest) and the garage are having problems getting a new one despite contacting clutch suppliers. They have had to supply serial number off the old clutch as the indicated one on the parts list is too small . Apparently there are a number of 2005 doblos with non standard clutches. The 1.9 JTD engine is a match for the citroen and Peugot 2.0HDI engines and ten times better than their 1.9 offerings. Find a good one and you will save £1000 + on a similar Berlingo and Partner.
Submitted: 01/07/2010 20:35:08 | ID: 5552
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Brilliant car, just what you want in a small 4x4. No complaints, in fact after 50,000 miles I’m looking to buy another one.
Submitted: 01/07/2010 20:25:20 | ID: 5549
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Purchased Nov 2009 from Fiat Dealer, 46000 mls £5250. Brilliant value. Had to return to dealer due to suspension noise which was sorted under the 1 year warranty. No other issues. A spacious quality motor which is very quick and economic on runs. You will not find an equivalent vehicle of this year for less than £7k in my view. If you see a good one go for it!
Submitted: 01/07/2010 20:21:52 | ID: 5548
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I bought my van in July 2009 off a dealer in Northren Ireland. When it was delivered I noticed how low the exhaust tail pipe was on the van and stated it to the dealer that it would catch on the road. When i pulled out of the local filling station the exhaust caught on the kerb and fell down off the rubber mountings. I put it back on but it caught 5 more times, so I parked the van up 6 months ago and contacted the dealer. The dealer put me on to Fiat Ireland as he bought the van off them, they said the van would have to go to Sligo to be examined; it cannot be driven as the clearance is only 3 inchs between the road and tail pipe. I contacted Fiat Italy and they asked if it was modififed? Nothing has been done by the dealer or Fiat Ireland to rectify this problem. If anyone else has had this problem with the exaust please email me at mariabsweeney@o2.ie
Submitted: 01/07/2010 20:12:12 | ID: 5545
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I bought this vehicle to do airport transfers, 300 miles ex demo and 8 month old, now done 70,000 miles, out of warranty, engine has gone bang and dual mass fly wheel u/s what a nightmare. Get your money out! Lost an absolute fortune in business, parts very expensive , will have to sell it asap once completed repair. Don’t buy a Fiat, they look good, drive good, but when they go wrong don’t bother repairing.
Submitted: 29/06/2010 21:34:36 | ID: 5538
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Hi to all. My wife and I purchased our Mc Louis Motor home 9 months ago and had a similar problem to some of the writers of these reviews in that the starter battery drained without cause. Being an old diesel fitter, I took both the battery assemblies apart cleaned them replaced the fuse in the battery then put everything back together. I trickle charged the starter battery over night, cleaned the solar pannel and have not had to touch it again since. That was January. As for the loose fitting negative junction on the starter battery, a simple way to improve it is to put one or two bits of soldering wire down the length of the terminal or even one piece that folds over the top, then put the assembly over the whole thing. When you tighten it up it makes a firm fit as soldering wire will flatten out under pressure, you can even tap it with a small hammer before introducing it to the terminal. That was a cracking tip about the radio by the way to change over the wires. There is no doubt if left in, even though turned off, the radio will drain the battery, we have also experienced that situation. Apart from the things I have mentioned there has been no problems, (touch wood) with our Fiat engine or gear box, just lucky I guess judging by the reviews.
Submitted: 28/06/2010 09:59:25 | ID: 5530
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Bought new in 2009, nippy in town but a bit under powered on motorways. Build quality good, fuel economy ok, only fault so far was a squeaking heater fan. Dealers could do better; after service average.
Submitted: 24/06/2010 07:42:24 | ID: 5501
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Have this little gem as a company car and I absolutely love it and will hate (and cry) to give it back at the end of the week :( I change cars weekly and this is the first small car that I have been impressed with. Even though you get bounced to death on the British roads from the stiffened suspension, all the qualities put a huge smile on my face when I drive. Torquey enough to speed away from the annoying tailgaters on the motorway and leave them hanging in the distance.
Submitted: 22/06/2010 16:07:20 | ID: 5499
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Hi! My van also wears tyres on the back very fast, 15000 miles tyre is slaughtered. I have checked with the main dealer and they say it’s the way the van is loaded, what a load of cobblers, never had a problem like this with VW or Transits. Fiat’s customers after care is not good.
Submitted: 18/06/2010 22:09:25 | ID: 5472
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Bought new in Nov 2006 and so qualifies as Euro 4 £125 road tax. I use it for window cleaning and carry about 500kg of water and gear plus me. All pretty local and so mileage only 21500 as of June 2010. 42mpg start stop driving and 50mpg on rare longer run. Good points:- Good all round - nice driving position but easy to park. Being a 2000kg over all max weight on a car derived van I can drive legally at car rather than van speeds - but be warned the 1.9 is about 20kg over the limit! And I don’t know about the new 2010 stuff. Problems. New starter motor under warranty at 15 months. Side door jammed at 3 years and bits and job cost £100. Drivers window (electric) glass jams occasionally. Clutch juddery but to be expected as stop starting with 500k all day and end day by reversing up drive for about 30ft every evening on the clutch. Still works at the mo’. All things being equal I will replace at 5 year point and am pleased so far. I will probably replace with the new Doblo - perhaps a 1.6 and 1000kg payload.
Submitted: 14/06/2010 22:31:06 | ID: 5445
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Hi. In feb 08 I bought a new Ducato van from the local Fiat dealer. After 3 months I noticed flaking paint. I reported it to the Fiat dealer and they offered to repaint, but i smelled a rat and got it checked by an engineer and found the van had no primer anywhere on the body, hence it would not be possible to repaint complete and get it back to new condition as it shoud be. Now 06/10 having stopped driving the van since march 09 Fiat have not fixed or dealt with the matter. I have spent thousands on engineers and lawyers, still no outcome. I have loads of pics and would like to hear from anybody interested or with similar problems. Please email me using irishstoves [at] gmail.com.
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My Ducato is a 06 plate and I am now trying to sort out a seriously flaking roof and shoulders. Fiat are not interested because it outside of its 3 year warranty. Did you ever resolve your problem? I am very interested in the outcome of your dispute - David Chambers from Norfolk
Hi, I’ve had the same problems. Give me a call on 0783 148 4213 - Hugh Fitzgibbon from Kent
Submitted: 11/06/2010 08:52:10 | ID: 5425
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I bought a Hymer 534 motorhome on a Fiat Ducato chassis. I had previously had a coachbuilt motorhome on the same chassis but with a 2.5 turbo diesel that had been fitted, after the previous owner found that the 2.0 petrol engine was useless. The turbo diesel wasn’t much better, and the gearbox was particularly bad changing down from 3rd to 2nd despite having had all the linkages renewed, a new clutch, and the synchro on 2nd gear replaced. It was a nightmare to drive, and particularly noisy despite being "soundproofed" The second time it was used the alternator packed up on the way home leaving us with no lights or windscreen wipers. Having sold this van for a massive financial loss, I recently bought the Hymer thinking that Fiat would have improved over the years. No such luck! On the way home from buying the van I encountered the Fiat judder when reversing out of a parking space. The engine was so noisy with tapett noise that I was deaf on reaching home. Not good I thought. On the first outing, having invested in an engine blanket to slightly minimise the racket of the engine, I stopped for diesel and found the engine wouldn’t start, as the battery was totally flat despite having driven for 90K when by rights the battery should have been fully charged. Deja Vu I thought. Thanks to some kind-hearted lads that gave me a push start I managed to make it home, but as soon as I switched off the engine it wouldn’t restart. I tried charging the battery, and it managed to start OK so I made arrangements to take it to a local garage the following day, but to my horror, the following morning the battery was again completely flat, so it would now appear to be either the battery or the alternator, or both that are defective, which seems rather unlikely that both would fail together. Having read some of the posts on here I am no nearer finding out what the problem is. I used the van over a 3 day camping weekend stopping and starting, using the 12 volt systems and also the 240v hook up with no problems whatsoever. I am wondering if it could be something to do with the relay switch over from the leisure battery as it shows as fully charged on the dial on the zig unit. Unfortunately there is very little information with the van, which is a German import. All the documentation is in German, and there is a very basic English instruction book which is pretty useless as what information it contains is stating the bleedin’ obvious! Has anyone any idea where I could possibly obtain an English translation for the vehicles mechanical and habitation instructions without it costing a fortune from Hymer, or being totally useless as the 6 page document I got with the van. It would appear that Fiat doesn’t really have a customer service follow-up and the same mistakes appear to occur with monotonous regularity.
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Had a simular problem, turned out to be an earth strap from the chassis to engine. There was bad contact on chassis. I cleaned it up and fitted it back. everything is ok now - Keith Neighbour from Cardiff
For translation into any language you can try Google translator.German to English. You may have to laboriously type it out but once it is done it is done - David Lamb from Isle of Anglesey
Submitted: 05/06/2010 21:17:01 | ID: 5371
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I have had a Fiat car twice and have had no problems other than the normal wear and tear. They are good cars and I would recommend them to anyone.
Submitted: 04/06/2010 08:58:14 | ID: 5365
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Have been driving the Croma for 4 years (bought new in 2006) and have only seen a handful on the road. It has the ’rarity’ tag. As with all cars it has its advantages and disadvantages. The ride is comfortable both in town and long distance. Consumption is between 40-55mpg (diesel1.9D). The 55 mpg is easily achieved on motorway at steady 65-70mph in 6th gear. Parts are expensive so better to source them yourself rather than asking the dealer (for example the back tailight costs c. £70 but on e-bay price is as low as £25). Front tyres wear out yearly (15,000-18,000 miles) and I have had to replace the front wiper motor. The main selling point of this car is its comfortable ride, good consumption and above all else there are very few out there.
Submitted: 29/05/2010 21:49:07 | ID: 5323
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We bought the 3.0 litre turbo Ducato diesel motor home 2 years ago. We have loved it until the water pump died at 16,000k’s while on holiday, 1600k’s from home. The judder has always been an issue but we try not to use reverse when possible. To their credit the Australian dealer has done all possible to take care of the problem while the Fiat roadside assist people made sure we were taken care of. As I type this we are waiting for a water pump to arrive from Italy and then be fitted. We hope the good service continues.
Submitted: 27/05/2010 09:34:46 | ID: 5309
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When I bought this car it had a power problem, basically it would go up hills unless you went into first, I suffered with this for about 6 months, then after it passed its mot with no probs I decided to treat it to a visit to the garage, they said EGR valve; wow my car is now a rocket. It always has an array of electrical errors which I now ignore, I just think its dodgey wiring, it usually happens when someone moves the passenger seat, but hey it shifts like you know what and I feel like I have a new car....Oh happy days
Submitted: 26/05/2010 22:37:17 | ID: 5304
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I Work for a local haulage company in Norfolk and they have recently purchased a Ducato power with 3.0litre engine in. One of the best vans I have driven in my driving career. The company own a second hand ’V’ reg Ford Transit and that was a heap of c**p. The Ducato is a big step up from the Ford in every factor. The bhp and torque in it is on top of the job. The only downside to this van was at 12,000miles the clutchplate shattered and required a whole new one. It would be nice to hear from other owners of this type of model and their experiences.
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I bought a Ducato 160 3ltr Eura Mobile motor home in November 2008. I asked before I paid for it if the clutch juddered in reverse. The sales person confirmed that it did not. I had not left their premises before most of the fillings in my teeth fell out because of the reverse gear vibration! The dealers told me to contact Fiat, which I did, and almost two years on, despite talking to any number of people on their staff nothing has been done to correct the problem. I have been told that there is a modification to the gearbox available for the smaller engined vehicles, but not the 3 ltr. It has now covered 9,000 miles. It is fantastic to drive forwards. Smooth and very powerful. It flys up steep mountain roads and returns 24 mpg. It is on a 4.25 tonne Alko chassis. This vehicle would be perfect if I could back the thing up. Trying to reverse into a tight camping bay is a nightmare - Rob Earl from Kent
Be very aware that you WILL experience a fuel related problem at some stage. We have a 2008/58 3L motorhome and on our recent holiday to France, the vehicle cost us £1,000 before we left the country. An injector had failed and due to the earl under bonnet water ingress problems that Fiat had and carried out a recall on, retaining bolts and injectors seize in the head, the bolts shear off and create a lot of extra labour. Further on our holiday in France the injection system failed again and required the vehicle to be recovered to the UK for repair as no Fiat dealer in France would even look at it. We are now facing astronomical bills to have this fixed. How can Fiat stand back and do nothing with a vehicle that’s not three years old and only covered 22,000 miles with regular services! - Colin Anderson from Devon
Submitted: 20/05/2010 22:05:36 | ID: 5259
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Knocking from suspension and steering developed within a few months of delivery. Suspension bearings, drop links, and steering rack eventually replaced following multiple visits to dealer. Knocking from nearside front still persists. Dealer unwilling to replace any more parts. Poor quality chromework has started deteriorating rapidly, with bubbles appearing in various places. Boot handle and 2 chrome bumper trims replaced under warranty. Paint work fragile, leading to lots of chips and scratches. Paint flaking off centre caps on alloy wheels. Blue and Me microphone poor- replaced twice under warranty. Ride quality is appalling, which has lead to the car developing lots of rattles. All in all, it’s a poor quality car- certainly not the big step forward for Fiat that the motoring press would have you believe.
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I worked as a foreign car mechanic for 30 years. The common reply we give to all Fiat owners is to (a) sell it immediately and take your losses or (b) send it to the junk yard. It is funny how time erases bad memories and apparently, Fiat (Chrysler) decided enough generations had passed for them to re-issue their little headache. I notice a lot of words that owners used to describe their feelings about the car when they bought it were based upon "how cute they thought their little car was." Well, mark my word, they are in for an education - Jay Johnson from United States of America
Submitted: 16/05/2010 22:20:02 | ID: 5230
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I bought this Croma (new shape) my 5th so I’m used to them, second hand with 25’000 miles on the clock, it now has 110’000 miles . A great car easy on juice 45/50 mpg on long trips I’ve had very little trouble: new front springs (Lancashire Potholes ), new tires 30’000, rear 25’000 front, NOT BAD. My other cars lasted a lot less. Extremely comfortable, fast, easy driving (thank God for cruise), which is excellent. I would highly recommend this model to any executive salesman or rep, who wants to travel distances in relaxed comfort. I bought it for half the retail so overall I reckon this was Top value for a Top Car.
Submitted: 16/05/2010 22:17:21 | ID: 5229
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Top car, good quality.
Submitted: 13/05/2010 20:57:22 | ID: 5215
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750,000 miles, four sets of wheel bearings on the front. 15 brake sets on the front. Apart from tyres that is it. Awesome vehicle, passengers love it, top class all the way around. No other problems, will write again on its 1,000,000 Birthday
Submitted: 13/05/2010 20:48:12 | ID: 5212
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I say if you are thinking about buying a Stilo then don’t, for your wallet’s sake at least. Don’t get me wrong, I own a 02 stilo abarth 2.4 20v in British racing green; it goes like the clappers and is really nice to drive handles fantastic and looks the part with the blade roof and big alloys, great interior with the satnav and wicked sound system but just why does it keep braking all the time? I have had the car 9 months now and it’s been in the garage about 5 months of that. It’s had new drive shaft (you cant get a recon so I had to buy a new one £350 ) then the electrics started playing up, another £500, then the engine management light came on engine so another £2000 by now I’m thinking s**t! I only paid £3000 for it so is it worth it so the garage warranteed the work they had done for 12months so I thought great least it will be covered now so I get about 800 miles into the new bottom end of my engine then bang there it goes again. The garage fixed it again at a cost of £2700, luckily covered by the warranty, then the airbag lights came on NOT covered by this warranty so another £300 to fix that. Got my car back again, loving it, great, then bang again. The alternator belt snapped (which was a new one) decided to wrap round the cam belt pulley in turn smashed the valves, which wasn’t covered by the warranty because it was the top of the engine not the bottom, which was prevously done another £1700 to the garage. I get the car back again then the selespeed gears would only go into 1st 3rd and 5th so back to the garage again . By the time it was fixed the bill came to £1200 by now the garage loves me, my bank manager loves me too because I owe him a fortune and the wife is going insane because we can’t afford a holiday this year. Then to top it off 3 days after getting it back again the car goes into meltdown the electrics competely shut down, another trip to the garage and another £900 to fix and now this morning I got in it to go to work and a warning light saying ENGINE CONTROL SYSTEM FAILURE came up on the dash and it sounds like a tank so I call the garage and he says it could be a loose connection but he’s busy and it could be a week before he can look at it and there’s no other garages around here that will entertain it so playing the waiting game again. Back to public transport! So if you are looking at buying a Stilo or Fiat of any type DON’T. Buy a Bently instead, it will work out cheaper in the long run trust me. And I’ve only metioned the big jobs, add another £1500 on silly little things that keep going wrong with it. So all in all a great car to wrap up in cotton wool and shrink wrap and leave it in the garage to look at now and then but if you want a car you can drive buy something German or even French, anything just not Italian, so I will give the Stilo Abarth a rating of of 2/10 because when you drive it you will love it and it looks fantastic and feels great but you will be spending more time standing at bus stops then then acually driving it :-( thanks for reading.
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Hi Mick, could you let me know what electrical problems you had as I’ve got one where the heating and alv parking sensor, rain sensors have gone up the swany. Thanks - Paul Chaffins from England
Submitted: 13/05/2010 16:14:38 | ID: 5204
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Bought with 35000 miles on, now have 80k. Strengths: Great engine, fast, frugal - with a £100 chip fitted I now average over 60 mpg. Reliability: Has never broken down. Has needed a few jobs doing; wheel bearings, exhaust, fuel cap, wiper linkage, but nothing major. Flaws: no footrest for left foot. Seating position can make right foot start to ache on long motorway trips. Not enough cubby holes in the cab. Stereo/speakers poor, nowhere to mount any better speakers. Spare parts are not cheap. Front tyres wear out too quickly. Conclusion: with a decent stereo and a cruise control, it would be nearly perfect. I would heartily recommend it and will probably buy another.
Submitted: 12/05/2010 13:37:55 | ID: 5193
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Hi, I bought a Fiat Ducato 1.3 1985 in March. The first time I was going to take it out it wouldn’t start. I thought it was the battery, but it turned out to be something different. I have had the spark plugs replaced (which is cheap) and now it starts no problem.
Submitted: 05/05/2010 21:43:54 | ID: 5161
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Our company purchased a Fiat Ducato 2.0 jtd swb in march 05,and it’s been a great van; alternator replaced 3 times, new diesel pump fitted at 117000 miles, apart from that never had any bother with it. The van is currently on 133000 miles, runs great, serviced every 10000 miles and compared to the Ford Transits of the same age it has no rust at all. It is now due for renewal but seeing what other vans are available and the amount of problems they suffer, i’ll be sad to see the trusty Ducato get traded in as it has been the best works van I’ve ever had in the 20 years I’ve had one.
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What mileage to the gallon do you get with this van? Thanks - Hugh Torley from East Lothian (Haddingtonshire)
Submitted: 02/05/2010 22:06:43 | ID: 5138
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After a lifetime of driving various cars I bought a 57 panda 4x4 for £5k. A great little, cheap to run, quirky tool, Who needs speed with one of these go anywhere motors? I’ve seen all the videos on Youtube and cant wait for the first snows to come.
Submitted: 29/04/2010 21:02:43 | ID: 5127
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This car is the worst car ever built, it’s rubbish ...absolutely rubbish. No one should buy this car unless they want to throw money away and be humiliated when it bloody breaks down. I have had mine for nearly a year now and have spent over £1500 just on repairs. Head gasket, wiper blades, brakes, engine misfires, overheating fan, and loads more I can’t even remember. And a changed engine as the last one started smoking and fried everything in the engine. After putting in a second hand engine, have had more problems, stops in traffic, usually at lights. Judders down the road in 1st and 2nd gear, oil light keeps coming on even though I’ve put in oil, engine cuts out leaving me breaking down either on a roundabout or at lights. Arghhh! Hate it, hate it, hate it. NOT RELIABLE AND WILL NEVER EVER BUY A FIAT AGAIN.
Submitted: 29/04/2010 20:50:43 | ID: 5124
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Purchased a Fiat 500c convertible October 2009. I have had nothing but trouble with the roof, it makes knocking and rattling sounds, not been able to cure it So now Fiat say the noise is standard. I dont think so, a brand new car with a rattling roof? Anyone else with the same problem?
Submitted: 28/04/2010 09:49:01 | ID: 5111
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I bought my Fiat Sedici 1.9 multijet eleganza reg 2008 and the first 2 months I was very happy as it is good looking car and economical, but after 2 months the gear box has given me too many problems. For starters it was very hard to change the gears and was getting very stiff. I took my car back to the dealer but they say is the character of the car and they can’t do anything about this. After a few months the gear got stuck, I could not drive the car. The dealer fixed this but after 2 weeks it is broken again. I have use this car for nearly 2 years and finally I made a complaint to Fiat head office and after they inspect the car they decide to change most of the parts on the gear box. No disrespect to Fiat but my advice is do not go for a Fiat as I have bought from them a Fiat Grande Punto, a Fiat Sedici and a Fiat Fiorino van and except for my van I have had so many problems with my cars. They are absolutely rubbish.
Submitted: 25/04/2010 16:54:22 | ID: 5098
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Purchased van new in May 07 from a main dealer in Coleraine who no longer is the Fiat dealer and who washed their hands of the third year warranty. Nice van to drive, when not in the garage being repaired! Lots of problems; heater replacements, gearbox issues, towbar lights(which they fitted) and engine management and other issues. DO NOT BUY A FIAT DUCATO, MINE IS STILL UNDER THE THIRD YEAR WARRANTY AND I JUST PAID 840 QUID TO HAVE IT REPAIRED INDEPENDENTLY.THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS RUBBISH!!
Submitted: 24/04/2010 22:49:49 | ID: 5094
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Bought the Motohome from Southdowns in October 2008. Prior to delivery test drove a manual variant and experienced the reverse juddering and clutch problem, but was assured that this problem did manifest itself on the ’auto’. Not the case, judders just as badly on the auto! Registered a case number with Fiat and dealer, but have never been offered any corrective work. Having read about the problems with Fiat dealerships and warranty and reluctant to have the vehicle ’messed about with’, have been gingerly driving around UK and Europe, avoiding reversing. So far no other problems have materialised, so keeping fingers crossed that I don’t have a ’friday’ vehicle. Concerned that Fiat have really not fixed this problem, but am running out of warranty, so may have to bite the bullet and face the aggro with Fiat.
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I have a Rapido 7090+ with a manual gearbox 3 litre Fiat Ducato 160 engine which I bought new in July 2008. Reverse judder has recently started at about 7500 miles. The verbal recommendation I received from FIAT Custmer Service was to reverse at no less than 2000rpm. I got my FIAT commercial dealer to complete a road test and file a report with FIAT Technical which has confirmed that providing 2000rpm is maintained there is no judder. FIAT have now confirmed in writing that this now indicates there is no fault present with my vehicle. Have asked that they provide an extended warranty for the clutch which they have refused. I am now in the situation that I try to avoid reversing unless it is downhill. Does anyone with the same problem have any recommendation on how to get FIAT to do something? John Ellison from Gloucestershire
Submitted: 24/04/2010 22:40:59 | ID: 5092
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I have had my Ducato 2.3 for just 1 year and only covered 4000 miles. It has had the ’B’ modification to the gear box but is still juddering in reverse. Despite many phone calls to Fiats, so called, Customer Relations, that’s a joke, I am still no further forward. I have been told that I can take it to the local dealer but should they find it to be in order then I will be charged for any investigative work carried out. Also as it is a motorhome and I can walk through between the front seats, the floor has split, but I am now told that my local agent will not undertake the work as Fiat will not pay them for the amount of hours it takes to remove and refit a new floor. I am still waiting for Fiats response to this after now having 3 different case numbers given to me and making 8 phone calls and pushed around to untold office workers. This is my third Ducato and I have always praised them up until now, but I think it will be going very soon and I will be looking for something very different
Submitted: 23/04/2010 11:03:12 | ID: 5086
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Me and my wife bought a Fiat Ducato 1.3t 1985 plate, we had it now for just over 8 months. I have tried to jump start it but it will not have it. This is all new to me and my wife so we don’t know if there is a certain way you have to charge the battery? If there is anybody who knows it would be good.
Submitted: 20/04/2010 21:13:03 | ID: 5063
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Bought our Croma 3 years ago. Although nice to drive it’s had so many little faults with it; boot lock braking twice, door handle broken, switches falling out, but besides all that a lovely spacious car to drive. It’s a shame most Fiat dealers are not very helpful when it comes to its issues!!!
Submitted: 19/04/2010 17:54:36 | ID: 5056
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The Scudo van we bought can be fantastic when all is well but when it’s bad it’s very bad. The van packed up completely on the M6 when the exhaust valve gave up. Why Fiat do not have a manual override for this built in line is beyond me. If this stops working just start walking. Now the van is 2 years and one month old and the suspension is knocking like mad. I spoke to the dealer who tells me this is not a problem but they do have 5 vans waiting for new anti roll bars. We changed the poor headlight bulbs for some bright ones. This took us over two hours and plenty of skin but it is worth it. The van is used for light work only and these are issues I would expect from a 1985 Transit not a 2008 van. Perhaps I will look at Vauxhall or Hyundai next.
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It seems from reading several different reviews/websites etc., inc AA recalls -that Fiat have a huge problem with the Anti roll bar (of course they are denying this ). I have noticed a Knocking noise for a while now and when I mentioned this to Fiat they said "they’re not aware of any issues concerning knocking or banging" However, I popped my van into a local garage and not the local Fiat dealers as I wanted to get an independant opinion and as I thought the Anti roll bar & drop links need changing ..Of course the Mechanic is amazed that this is even an issue with a van that is so young! However, on his advice I’m about to do battle with our local Fiat dealer as, like several other owners, my van only does light work and should not need to have the Anti roll bar changed at just 2 yrs 5 months old! Especially that a 3 yr warranty should mean 3 YRS .... Like others I will avoid Fiat for another Vehicle, fortunately I also own a Vito so I already know where my money will be better spent next time! - John from Warwickshire
I’m just wondering if you got anywhere with Fiat? I have a Scudo Combi, had an anti-roll bar replaced Jan 10 and already needs another. Considering my car is not 3 years old ’til November I am wary that my last wasn’t fitted correctly. I have contacted Fiat and awaiting a return call to see if they can help with the costs as it’s not covered under 3 yr warranty! The vehicle has only done 24000 miles, carrying small children only so I just can’t see how I have damaged them! - Louise Riddler from Yorkshire
Submitted: 16/04/2010 22:16:47 | ID: 5038
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Purchased our Fiat Ducato 2.3 multijet engine new in Nov. 2008, with a Swift Lifestyle body layout. While trying to contend with the multi defects contributed by Swift, we then turned our attentions towards the reverse gear vibration. Fiat have tried for months to bury their heads in the sand, just hoping that we would all go away. They have stayed in denial for quite some time, hoping that our collective van problems would dissapear. Well they have not. I have had their Phase:1 stronger more robust engine/gearbox mountings fitted. Also Phase:2 a replacement (slightly ) lower reverse gear fitted. All to no avail as the vehicle responds just the same. The Fiat Dealership and their mechanics are in full agreement with me, that the fault remains, and they consider Fiat’s mechanical interventions to be worthless. Fiat as a company are treating us all as irrelevant, now that we have purchased their unroadworthy expensive vehicles. I have spent a life time on the spanners having been a garage proprietor, class 1 driver and an advanced driver, so I believe that I have enough experience to know a dodgy vehicle once driven. Fiat when asked, will not extend the warranty on our vehicle for another 3 years, about the time we would be changing it. If they are not willing to do this, then that says a lot about their faith in their so called remedy work. We should all get together and fight them en masse, then and then only may they eventually listen to their so called ’valued customers’ instead of trying to pick us off, one at a time until we give up. The press need such a story badly, any takers? Regards and Good Luck! chrislewis5626@googlemail.com
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We have recently purchased a 2008 Mobilvetta Topdriver 2.3 Fiat Multijet 6 speed gearbox. We cannot get 4th gear and are at a loss as what to do. After reading several reviews, we realise that there is obviously a gearbox problem with Fiat. We have been in touch with Fiat, who advised us to contact TJ Vickers. They advised that the vehicle was too big for them to investigate & have told us to contact Guest Trucks, wolverhampton. Who will we be passed onto next? Fiat need to address the problem! - Pete Griffiths from Powys
Submitted: 15/04/2010 20:03:49 | ID: 5030
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I love my Fiat van, it drives beatifuly and is far superior to a Transit, however, dealer support has been lacklusture to say the least and faults, particuarly to do with the central locking on the side door, have been described as design faults and not rectified even after 6 or 7 visits to dealers.
Submitted: 14/04/2010 19:08:30 | ID: 4998
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My first punto and I must say I’m really impressed. Livley engine, amazing fuel consumption, upto 54.5 mpg doing 340 miles a week in comfort. Low tax, low insurance, what more could you want?
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You are one of the lucky ones. I drive the same model but it was registered in 2006 and has covered 46,000 miles and has cost me a packet as the gear cables and electrics are poor. Best get shut at the first electrical fault - Malcolm Smith from England
Submitted: 11/04/2010 20:47:27 | ID: 4980
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I have replaced original tyres with new Perelli’s just 7500 miles ago. I now find that the rear tyres outer edge has worn and become illegal, so I’m having to replace them. Having sent the tyres away for inspection and told it is not a tyre fault I have gone onto having the wheel alignment checked. Fronts slightly out, no adjustment on rear but are within parameters. I’m now swapping to another make of tyre as £400+ for four is over the top when two don’t make 10,000 miles. Has anyone else suffered this problem?
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Sounds like the same problem I have had with my Scudo 57 Plate. I have had it 2 years and done 80.000 miles. The rear tyre wear is terrible, they get flat spots on after about 5000 miles and start to shake the van terribly. I had the rear axle replaced under warrenty but its still the same. I hate the van. I also have a 2004 Plate scudo (220.000 miles ) and I love it. I will never buy another though. - Gary Stott from Yorkshire
Submitted: 07/04/2010 22:18:37 | ID: 4951
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Used it for one continental holiday, 6000 miles, nice to drive on the road but no need for 6 speed box,5 speed would be better. Lets its self down when you reverse, judders badly unless you slip the clutch, which because of dual mass flywheel will cost an arm and leg to replace. I THINK MOTORHOME MANUFACTURERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES BUILDING ON THIS CHASSIS. Sold mine, I can sleep at night now. LONG LIVE THE FORD TRANSIT.
Submitted: 07/04/2010 22:16:03 | ID: 4950
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Had the car from "nearly new" and have now done 80,000 miles. Had new head gasket in early 2007 and as part of the front suspension spring fell off recently, have had that replaced. New battery also recently. A warning lamp relating to the Auto Gearbox recently lit-up but garage cancelled it and so far (1000 miles later) it has not re-lit ! Shall be sorry to see the car go, but travelling back and forth to France requires something larger, so off to buy a Citroen C4 Picasso later this year.
Submitted: 31/03/2010 11:53:08 | ID: 4908
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Very disappointed with the Scudo. the fuel economy of a 120 Deluxe is about 36 mpg. The suspension is terrible with a common problem being that the stabilising bushes wear very quickly and when it comes to replacing these under warranty the main dealers just don’t want to know even though this problem in my opinion is coming close to a recall situation. Don’t even attempt to change the front lamp bulbs unless you were born double jointed. The rear tailgate left hand door has to be shut with an operation of push and pull because the bottom catch mechanism is slightly offset and to shut the sliding doors I have to yank at them to start them off on their journey. A plus point is a very comfortable ride (when suspension correct) with a good-looking van but not enough plus points to make me go and buy another one. Was once told Fiat stood for Fix It Again Tomorrow. I now wish I had taken more notice of those wise words.
Submitted: 23/03/2010 09:44:43 | ID: 4867
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Had my car only 5 weeks and the clutch is making a whining noise towards the end of each day. At the same time a slight vibration can be felt in the clutch and accelerator. Conveniently the garage never have time to assess the problem later in the day. Has anybody else experienced clutch issues on their new cars? To make matters worse whilst the car was at the garage for another matter the car has been dented on the wheel arch! Can’t believe how unlucky I am sadly the dealership cant understand why I am so annoyed. Due back there tomorrow for the next episode.
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UPDATE: Stood my ground and got a replacement car. Like for like. All has been fine with my 2nd car until 4 mths down the line. Today the message light came on ’please check power steering’! Is this serious and can I still drive my car safely? - Sharon from Lancashire
UPDATE: This is now a 2nd new Grande Punto and already it has had a new steering column and now a new clutch. This is so wrong on a car only 9mths old. The Dealer thinks it’s so funny - Sharon Morrow from Lancashire
Submitted: 22/03/2010 14:01:43 | ID: 4865
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Hi! I had a 98 punto before, it was perfect, never had anything wrong with it but I sold it for a bigger car (biggest mistake ever). I bought a Fiesta, good car but tyres kept bursting too easily. I then got a Fiat Brava, was again perfect but it ate petrol; I took it to a garage 3 times to get the petrol pump fixed but it never got fixed, always drank the petrol and it was only a 1.2. I then had a Lancer and all sorts was wrong with that so I swapped it for a 01 Punto Sporting, a lovely car, probably my favourite car out of the lot, but I did a straight swap for the 96 Lancer because my pregnant girlfriend wanted something smaller and cheaper. This was perfect except the day I got it I had to put in a new battery and two bulbs charged me 130€ for it in advanced pitstop, I only had 140€ on me and I travelled so far to do the swap lol. Because it was good on petrol I managed to get it home. I was in Dublin last week and I pulled up to a garage to put petrol in, went to reverse back out and the engine mount collapsed and broke two of the brackets holding the engine up, the engine fell and crushed the drive shaft, gearbox and brakes. It’s now in Dublin, where I’ve to collect it friday and the bill for repair is 400€, so I’ve paid 600€ in one week with this car for repairs. It’s due for it’s road worthy test 20th april and it’s no way near ready for that so I suspect another 200€ to get it ready. But saying all that I love Fiat, they’re my favourite cars. This Punto not only has comfort but it’s very quick on the move, brilliant on petrol and cheap tax and insurance. I can see peoples frustration with Fiat but I’ve heard their newer cars are brilliant so I’m looking forward to getting a job and buying myself a 2010 Fiat Punto. I have one question though, hopefully someone can help me; the custom 5cd disc changer in my car won’t work, it loads the cd up but won’t play the song, is this easily fixed or should I scrap it??? Also, the heater fan is not connected to the dash properly is this easily fixed because there is no heat in my Punto and it’s bad for my girlfriend? Puntos are a good car, just put a bit of money aside incase you need it because garages don’t like fixing Fiats so they charge extra for even having to try.
Submitted: 17/03/2010 14:56:17 | ID: 4840
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Had the car two years now, all ok apart from the boot door switch not working from time to time but I’ve found a way to make it work by tapping the door handle above the switch it works give it a try. The next problem is the gutless engine in Yorkshire we have plenty of hills and this engine hates them. There’s no torque what so ever so to achieve a moderate hill you have to drop two gears. It’s a must to keep the revs above 2000 rpm. It’s supposed to have 140 bhp but i’ll be damned if I can find it. Avoid the 1.8 petrol model. Apart from that the car is a beauty plenty of room, well kitted out aswell for a dynamic, very good on long distance runs. Fuel consumption could be better though. If I was to buy another I would definitely buy the 150 jtd.
Submitted: 15/03/2010 09:26:47 | ID: 4826
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I have had a Fiat Doblo 1.3 multijet from new, 2008 as a motability vehicle. From the first day of driving the vehicle the door sensors were showing doors open, buzzing and even your indoor lights flashing when driving in the evening. I have had to turn the alert buzzer off via the menu system as it was driving me nuts. Had the rear door lock replaced, no different. ABS failure alert when starting up and periodically getting air bag error, resetting of the date time and mpg data etc. Obviously to me it certainly seams an electrical fault. But getting a solution seems bleak. Accelorator pedal sticking. Been back with it to the dealers without much success. This is a shame as otherwise I would have found the vehicle ideal for my mobility needs. It’s comfortable, plenty of room, and great boot space. The size of the engine is pretty good for a 1.3 engine and it drives well. The customer service is very poor from Fiat, I certainly will not be looking in getting another one. The 2 rating is because I have so far not had a solution to the faults in question.
Submitted: 11/03/2010 10:11:02 | ID: 4803
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This is the second Stilo I have owned and have owned in the past, the 128, 124, Strada, Uno, Punto mk1 and 2, Tipo, Tempra, 131, Brava and Grande Punto all over a period of 25 years. Apart from niggling minor faults, in all those years I have never had a major fault. Only one of these cars was brand new many had high milage. All were reliable cheap to run and fun to drive, my present 1.9 JTD sporting is as solid as a rock economical and will give many similar more expensive cars a run for its money, It cost much less than many similar cars I paid 4000 for a 55 plate with 37000mls. It is fun to drive and handles well. The people who moan about Fiats dont seem to consider value for money or compare faults in similar cars.
Submitted: 11/03/2010 10:05:40 | ID: 4802
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It was with some trepidation that I made the decision to buy a used Mk1 Multipla. It was almost a straight swap for my 2001 Jag XJ8 3.2 Sport. Oh how I loved that car but it was not a practical child carrier and I had just been informed that I was now a Granddad (twice over). Even though I adored my Jag, my family will always come first..and second and etc. etc.. But what to replace it with? I trawled the Inernet and found several very favourable reviews from long-term users (they may even have been from this site) and started a search. To cut what is a long story short I found a 2004 Mk1 diesel with all the extras, for the same price as my 2001 Jag. I couldn’t have made a better choice. 4 years later I find that I cannot imagine what, if any car, I will ever replace this Multipla with. I even like the Mk1 looks. The Mk11 looks too much like that mini-Honda MPV... I have driven to the Spanish Algarve, twice, in her with 4 people and half the contents of my mate’s appartment and she never missed a beat. All my passengers love her, especially the kids, as the rear seats will recline to around 45 degrees, with the rear parcel shelf removed, and they can take a nap without getting a stiff neck unlike most somnambulant rear seat passengers. Those same rear seats easily remove and then you have a van!! This is surely the most versatile car ever built? The only problem is - what the H*ll do I replace it with? I have looked BTW and I am staggered to find that even after 4 years heavy usage I could sell her for not an awful lot less than what I paid for her. I couldn’t have said that about the Jag!!!! The new Peugot 5008 is a very poor attempt at copying the Multipla, imo.
Submitted: 04/03/2010 16:39:42 | ID: 4775
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I was looking for an automatic and my sister-in-law was selling her Fiat Marea Weekend estate; it’s what the americans would say fullyloaded. It’s the best thing I did in buying it, very fast when you want to be, not to bad on fuel, 20 pounds worth takes me to my daughters and she’s 188 miles away, and in comfort as well. It’s a lot of car for the money, I only speak as I find. I am glad I bought it.
Submitted: 04/03/2010 10:12:54 | ID: 4766
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The only problem was the heat-shield, like the other previews I have that knocking sound at the rear, I think it’s the suspension. Two years old and 89000 on the clock, it’s a good van.
Submitted: 27/02/2010 20:14:44 | ID: 4724
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Never missed a beat, all it’s had in 50k is two sets of front tyres (still on original rear Michelins 5mm) one set of front pads, exhaust repair and thats it. Had it now for 7 years (53 plate). Been serviced but only minor eg. oil/air filter etc . Still on original battery, bulbs the lot. OK it’s not fast but it pulls and returns 35-40 mpg or 50+ on a run. I like a new van like the next guy but this is a friend and I can’t bring myself to part with her. I will hold on to this van as I know getting such a reliable bullet proof motor that will do 500k with ease (taxi drivers) will be hard to come by. This engine is going to be legendary and it’s only emissions that killed it off.
Submitted: 24/02/2010 14:30:28 | ID: 4696
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I have read loads of reviews about the Fiat Punto 2002, and infact about all cars. Complaints here and complaints there. Its sad to see that car owners attribute errors to the car type. All cars break down, and the cheaper the car the more they break down. My Punto for example, has had 3 new exhausts pipes, 2 clutches, new hand break cable, a new sensor, because it wouldn’t start when it was warm and other small wear and tear stuff. The AA man has helped me start the car because of the above faults, 4 or 5 times. It doesn’t matter, the car has done 101000 miles and when it drives it is a great car to drive. Ok so the endless amounts of squeaks and noises, may become annoying, but I love the car’s handling, response time and overal driveability. There is not a lot of roll in the car, but the suspension is soft, makeing it a very comfortable ride. The MPG I can get the Punto to 55MPG, but average about 40MPG in the City. I was unlucky to have the number of faults that I had, but it doesn’t matter. I am a big fan of the Punto, and enjoyed driving the car, and I think people should stop complaining about how poor a model of car is, when it is really only a select few cars (of any make) that go wrong. I would buy a punto again quite happily. And I would probably encounter different problems, because its a different car, and not because its a Punto.
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This is quite possiibly the worst review I have ever read!!!! "Yes my car is rubbish, it breaks down all the time, but I’d buy another one"..... Are you real???? It breaks down because it is a Punto, simple as. Never mind you can always Fix It Again Tomorrow :-) - Juan Carlas from Iceland
I agree totally Anthony, we have a 2002 Fiat Punto 1.2 16v Dynamic Sporting, very rare example. we bought it when it was two years old, 6 years ago, it has only done 43,000 miles from new after 8 years of going to Ireland and other places, well built for a cheap car, handling is fun and quirky and the size of the car is deceptive, it IS larger than you think. (5 Door). Best car we have ever had and hope we have it for a long while, I want it off my Mum when she is finished, my first car hopefully, I learn in july. If in any need for advise for your next car, here’s your answer - Matthew Longmate from Nottinghamshire
Submitted: 24/02/2010 14:20:01 | ID: 4694
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I have owned my Sedici for just over a month and I have to say I’m falling in love with it! I bought a brand new pre registered (in 2008) model with zero milage and I do believe I got myself a bargain! The ’emotion’ or ’eleganza’ as its called in the UK is the top spec model which originaly sold here in Ireland for close to €23,000 (I know we get ripped off big time over here.) Well at that price the car never really sold over here so Fiat decided to slash the price in half to clear their stock as there is now a newer ’facelifted’ model.. so happy days for bargain hunters!! So I have myself a brand new 4x4 for €12 grand!! Well I better review the car... I love the driving position, it gives you great confidence on the road, the interior is not as plush as I would have expected from a top end Fiat, but then again I think that it is a Suzuki interior!! So to echo a previous reviewer there’s no point banging on at Fiat when it’s mostly a Suzuki. The engine noise is a little on the loud side as most reviewers have stated! A couple of niggles: The drivers door controls don’t illuminate at night so you have no clue what you’re pressing when it’s dark!! I find this a major irritant, especially as the 2002 Skoda Fabia I traded in for the Sedici had! Other little details like not being able to close windows once you have turned off the ignition or taken out the key can also drive you mad!! Also, the headlights stay on even after you have turned off the engine which can catch you out!! But that said these are minor details considering the bargain I have got! I bought the car just after the big snow in January and i have to admit I’m secretly hoping for another blanket of snow to put this little 4x4 to the test!!
Submitted: 21/02/2010 21:10:07 | ID: 4664
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French car number 2! Bought both as used examples for very little money & both have been reliable & great fun to drive, even if the diesel is a little unrefined. They are superbly designed for kids. For example children can see out of the low windows so they don’t get bored and sick and you can stand inside to strap them in rather than having to lean across an open door. You have a choice when you have children, either buy a Sharan or Zafira & admit your life has ended until they leave home or buy a Multipla & say s*d it, I am going to have some fun with them! As my Grandma would have said, it has Chutzpa.
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Hi David, I think you had too much French wine hehe, Fiats are Italian?? Take care - Chris haha right from County Londonderry
Submitted: 16/02/2010 12:07:40 | ID: 4621
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My 2008 plate 2l diesel has done approx 65000 miles, on my 3rd rear anti rollbar, several sets of suspension bushes have been fitted, intercooler exploded at approx 30k, currently waiting on a front lower suspension arm and cv boot to arrive and be fitted under warranty. I also suffer from clutch judder when leaving junctions and every day it has a new clunk or bang from somewhere. It’s being used as a taxi in Lancaster, a very popular choice for taxi’s in this town but every time I go to the dealers with it they have a stack of taxis in there for warranty work. Loads are suffering from flywheel/clutch replacements, anti rollbars, bushes, instrument clusters packing up. One of my friends has been in for all these faults and is now being put on a jig as they suspect the wheels/body is all out of line, its going back to Fiat under the consumers act of unfit for purpose.
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Have you tried putting some silicon around the upper rear brake light? I have just done mine and at the moment it’s working! - Ruth from Cardiff
Submitted: 04/02/2010 21:33:41 | ID: 4547
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Fiat Punto 1.2 is a load of rubbish, it runs at 3,000 rpm off and on instead of ticking over. MPG is not even 38mpg where these people get 60mpg I just don’t believe it, driving on the flat at 55mph I can not get over 45 mpg. I had the car in the dealers they charged me £1,006.29p to change two sensers on the carburetor top part (its fuel injection but the thing that looks like the carb under the air filter. After 2 days went back no good revving again on start up they changed other sensors and tuned it £475. I went away, couldn’t get 45 mpg and the same fault. Went back and moaned I spent £1,500 here and the service and MoT last month, which cost £623 makes it over £2,000. WHAT A USELESS CAR THE PUNTO IS AND ITS ONLY DONE 30,000 MILES. THE WORSE CAR I HAD IN 50 YEARS MOTORING TOTAL RUBBISH I WILL SCRAP IT THIS WEEK.
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This car was made for Italy, here we have Km not Miles. It is the way you drive, why don’t you drive a R.R. (Real Rubish). Are you sure you put petrol in the car? I have a Fiat Punto and I can only say it is value for money, it is very much like a Mini, great fun to drive! - Abby Normal from Italy
Hmmm, Frank, your driving is most likely at fault, because I average 52.3 mpg combined. As for rpm, no problems there either. I LOVE MY PUNTO!!!!! - Louise Pole from Scotland
Hi, well I am driving a Fiat Punto 1.2 8 valve since year 2000 and now it is nearly 11 years old with 111,000 miles and never missed a beat. All I have fitted is new battery and a set of front shocks. The car has been 100% reliable and does about 45 miles per gallon. It has been a great car so far and I hope to get 20 years out of it in total. I always changed the engine oil every 5000 miles without fail, maybe that’s the secret to a good strong engine - Tony McGowan from Ireland
Submitted: 03/02/2010 10:20:38 | ID: 4528
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I bought my car new in June 2006, drove over 1100 miles in first 10 days holidaying round north England and Scotland. Apart from Fiat recalls affecting steering and door, car absolutely fine until 2 weeks before 3 year warranty expired...then alternator failed, and driving a Grande without power steering is no joke! Fixed under warranty, and no further troubles until Dec 09/Jan 10 when worrying noises began through steering column. Booked into auto-electrician who diagnosed Power steering electrical unit (ECU) about to fail, as on numerous previous model Puntes. Garage claim mine to be the first Grande booked in with the old, old, fault (see web pages relating to Fiat Punte power steering failures... there are plenty!) Fiat replacement about £600, but motor factor unit (with same warranty as Fiat’s) is about £300 + fitting. I have now lost all faith in this car. 33000 essentially trouble free miles and yet Fiat have not corrected a fault going back YEARS !! In all other aspects I have been happy with the car, yet always suspected a 1.6 engine could and should have been an option. Consumption averages 41 overall, yet my 1.2 16v Punto previosly owned returned 50 /55 and was quicker. Got 27000 miles out of front tyres, and nothing else needs replacing.
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Having got the car fixed, it appears ONLY Fiat currently supply a replacement power steering assembly/ECU unit for the Grande......at a price! AND their warranty of 1 year is half that of a non-Fiat supplier to the previous Punto model. To possibly help anyone with potentially the same fault: The car will appear to drive in " City " mode at all times, and suffer severe vibration through the steering column before ultimate failure. Cost...£650 fitted at local autoelectricians - Malcolm Moore from Nottinghamshire
Hi malcolm, I’ve just been on the net trying to work out why my Punto’s power steering is making a horrible groaning noise, and why it shakes about when turning. I’ve checked VOSA and sadly they’re not recalling my batch!! However, I got quoted here in Leicester £1300-£1500 for two parts that may be neeeded, and Fiat want to charge me £60 to "diagnose"the problem. My Punto was on the road June 2006, and it’s done 41000 miles, so the average. I’m fuming that this is happening, the car’s only worth £3000-£3500. Think I’m gonna part X it!! Why use an electronic power steering, when the belt one works just fine?!!! I love my Punto and am really attached, but now I’m never gonna have one, EVER!! - Will Coltman from England
Submitted: 01/02/2010 10:01:55 | ID: 4506
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Never had such a bad vehicle, will not be getting one the next time back to Ford.
Submitted: 31/01/2010 20:40:30 | ID: 4497
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I bought my 2002 Fiat Ducaton 14 Long Wheel Base/High Roof from a private seller in Belfast in 2009. It is the 2.8D non-turbo version. It has a mileage of less than 70,000 and had two previous owners. I converted it to a camper for which it is really suitable. I managed to squeeze a shower/toilet, fridge; couch which folds into a double bed, cooker etc and lots of overhead storage. I removed the bulkhead panel between the cab and interior and installed two swivel seats. One of the great things about the Ducato is that it is widely used for this purpose and parts are easily obtainable. The engine is strong but slow. I took it to Cornwall last year and the long hauls on the hills there were a nightmare. Given a second chance I’d insist on a turbo diesel version. The Ducato drives easily, gear changes are smooth and steering very comfortable by virtue of the large steering wheel. Being a car driver I had no problem manouvring the Ducato in any car park I encountered with the extra length never being an issue. The big door mirrors give an excellent view and reversing is easy. I’ve read of complaints of "juddering" when reversing up an incline but to be honest I’ve not experienced any of this. There is a small stain of water appearing in the passenger footwell but without taking off the dashboard I can’t ascertain whether its rainwater or a leak somewhere in the heater matrix assembly. It is small an irritating but the water level in the system seems to be unaffected. The van is basic having no electric windows, cruise control, air conditioning but to be honest it gives less to worry about malfunctioning particularly in an old van. A frined of mine recently replace the electric window switch on her Toyota Avensis at a cost in excess of ?300! God bless the simple window winders in the Ducato, 8 years old and still working. The body work still holds it’s own in that the only signs of rust (and only surface rust at that) are on the underside of the steel crossmembers under the van, due I imagine to the salting of the roads of Northern Ireland due to their colder climate than here in the "deep south" of Wexford in the Sunny South East. In conclusion have a good look before you buy but be confident that the Fiat Dealerships in Ireland are very helpful, even to DIY mechanics :)
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I bought a New Fiat motorhome 3 Litre in 2008. Approx 10 days after purchasing it I found that it would not reverse without shaking violently, I reported this to Dethleff and Fiat and the seller. Two years on I am no further forward other than having to instigate legal proceedings. I personally would not recommend Fiat as a company to even people whom I’m not fond of. They are dismissive and unwilling to accept the obvious that this thing burns the clutch and shakes in reverse. Of course it will not shake if you’re willing to get it up to 5pmh + in reverse but who is willing to risk that one! - Gerard Moyn from Ireland
I bought a new Fiat Ducato motorhome in 07. Only got 8000 miles on it and the water pump went. You are all right about Fiat. They did not want to know. Would never recommend them to anyone. They would not even make a comment about the water pump failing with such a low mileage. What about the water in the engine compartment? They have acknowledged this as a big problem but three years on now and still no solution - Trevor from Hampshire
Submitted: 27/01/2010 18:37:41 | ID: 4456
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HATE this car! My mother brought this car in 2001, by the time I past my test I decided to buy the car off my mum and have it as my own. Even though it lasted 7 years on the 8th year, everything started going wrong. The first problem was my gasket; the engine coolant light came on and it kept revving up. After this was the battery, which was then replaced. Following this was my HT leads, as every time i would get in the car, it wouldn’t start up properly. From this the starting motor went, this also had to be replaced. From that my car slowed right down when i was driving it & cut out, this was due to the timing belt, which had only recently been replaced when they did the gasket. Thinking that things were ok with it by now, my headlights started to dim even more! Then surprise surprise the car wouldn’t start again. took it to the garage, which seemed like the hundredth time were i was told that it was the alternator. replaced that! (also the battery AGAIN, as apparently it was scrambled by the volts) All was well for a month then then my car broke again!! Gasket again! Thinking that everything would be fixed, I decided to drive on the motorway (started not driving as much as was scared that the car would brake & i’d have to phone the RAC one again!) the engine coolant light turned red (which is normally when the gasket is on it’s way out) it then made a funny sort of creaking noise coming from under the bonnet while smoking wildly as I was driving. I then had to pull over on the motorway! Later, i found out that the engine needed replacing!! This was enough & i sold the car without an engine. After all the money, time & energy I have wasted with this car i would never encourage anyone to buy one! If you do, I’d advise you to get RAC breakdown cover as they come in REALLY handy!!!
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You say it was a 2001 model.... That makes the car 9 years old when it started having trouble. What do you expect? They don’t last forever. I have a 2004 Punto and it is absolutely perfect! Not had even the tiniest problem with it! It is a joy to drive and insure, it looks the part over similarly priced cars in its sector and the 1.2 that I have is particularly economical. And at approximately £3500 when it was bought last year it was a bargain! Im sorry, but I can’t see how you can justify advising people to avoid the Punto based on your unfortunate experiences with a 9 year old car - Gregor from Perthshire
Hi,I have an 11 year 1.2 litre punto 8 valve. It has done 111,000 miles, so reliable, only fitted front shocks. It does 45mpg. A great car if you look after them. They look after you, make sure to change the oil every 5k miles and don’t drive it past 70 miles an hour, they prefer 50 most times!!! Tony McGowan
Submitted: 25/01/2010 21:07:34 | ID: 4440
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Positves: Good trim and controls, engine responsive, load area surprisingly large. Negatives: Economy no where near the claimed 70mpg more like 45 even on long runs. Do Not Purchase this van if you need to leave anything of any value in it. It has been borcken into twice costing £1300.00 in tools the first time and £760.00 the second time, even after a market stainless steel back plate was fitted to the rear door handle /lock. Fiat not interested so be warned DO NOT BUY
Submitted: 23/01/2010 15:25:49 | ID: 4416
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Absolute c**p, makes a Trabant look like a Rolls Royce, do not buy one, you have been warned.
Submitted: 22/01/2010 10:19:17 | ID: 4413
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Hello everyone, I have had a Stilo Abarth for 4 months now and I also have a loose connection now. If I knew all these problems before I never would have bought it. Suspension has been repaired and there was a leak at the gearbox. So don’t buy them...
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I also had the 3dr Abarth and had problems with the suspension, it was a nice car to drive just wonder how Fiat can only get 170bhp from a big lump under the bonnet. lol - Scot from Scotland
Submitted: 20/01/2010 16:15:19 | ID: 4370
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Was looking for a replacement for our Jaguar XJ 4.0 and my wife’s Corsa; the replacement car had to be easy enough for my wife to drive and a little different to the norm. So far after 6 months of ownership I am very happy with the Marea, performance is much stronger than I was expecting from a 1.6, economy,i isn’t so great around town at about 30mpg. Plenty of space being an estate. I would certainly recommend one.
Submitted: 16/01/2010 23:31:12 | ID: 4329
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I bought a second-hand Grande Punto from Stonearce Wrexham in January of last year. All was well for 3 months when the passenger side shocker spring broke. Got that fixed, then 3 months down the line the door handle broke, after paying 160 pounds for it to be fixed the steering fault light keeps coming on. I went to an independent garage and they said that the steering rack has broke. I am at my wits end with this car and I don't feel safe driving it. I paid for this car on HP for 5 years, i haven't even had it 12 months. I would never have another Fiat car again.
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I got a new Punto grande with only 1.4 miles on the clock when it arrived. I was made up with the new snappy hot little hatch diesel turbo, but after just 7 miles the abs light came on and passenger airbag failed, this was fixed, then at 160 miles the turbo gave up, since then Ive had nothing but disasters with the wretched car, the diesel pump is now leaking, the airbag is on and off when it wants, abs light comes on and management lights reset themselves. I wouldn’t have another one that’s for sure. A great car when its running right but that’s been less than often and it makes poor motoring when a car lets you down, especially when its been praised by so many people and you get a bad one. They call them Friday cars as everyone in the factory goes home early Friday - Michael Lyttle from England
Submitted: 14/01/2010 22:59:24 | ID: 4309
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Bought the car in January 2008 from new and have covered 32000 miles in 12 months with no problems other than a new battery! These cars are fantastic regardless of engine size or specification. The 1.9 Jtd is seriously quick once moving (only group 6 insurance) and can blow off most 2.0 litre cars with out a problem and return 50 mpg on a run! Only thing I will say is that servicing costs are a bit steep!
Submitted: 14/01/2010 21:14:33 | ID: 4300
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I Bought mine brand new in 2005. Has now done 44k miles. Just bought a Transit to replace it as carrying 400-ish kilos in the Doblo has killed the shock stops and the leaf springs, so I need something bigger. Had to have new rear brake cylinders at 27k as they were leaking fluid (£450), and the gearstick weld snapped at 42k, but with builders banding and some roofing bolts I made it home and had it re-welded, other than that though, mechanically this van has been fine. Just the usual brake pads, discs, aux belts etc. If you service it regularly and to the letter, and don’t drive it like Schumacher, its a fine little van. Mine has never broken down, so it’s given me no down-time atall. But don’t bother trying to put the stated 500 kilos in it, it won’t like it, and it will quickly destroy the rear suspension. Also I find it goes through front tyres very quickly. The MPG figures of 62 etc are impossible to achieve. Mine averages about 42, which is still not bad at all, considering the weight it carries.
Submitted: 13/01/2010 12:28:47 | ID: 4287
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I have had this van from new and have only done 13,000 miles in wich time I have had to replace the turbo and now the dashboard is showing engine management fault, I have taken it to a garage and they have told me that the fault is a EGR Valve and would cost around £400 and this is just 6 months after I had to pay out £450 for a turbo. I was unable to get done through warranty as I forgot to get the first service on time but this fault should not have happened at this time surely? Will not get another Fiat as I have lost all faith in this brand.
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I had the same problem with mine, but at 97,000 after spending £1,500 on it! Ended up as £25 switch on the turbo. Before that, everything was great; only had to fix clutch at 87,000 miles - Simon Williams from Denbighshire
Submitted: 12/01/2010 23:26:33 | ID: 4272
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I’ve owned this van for 20 months from new. It is a 120 2.3 SWB Ducato, it has less than 25K on it with 3 faults to date: Fan heater only works on speed 4, has been in twice for this but it still is not fixed; Judder in reverse, I reported this on the last service but nothing has been done and now the clutch is staying down. Otherwise fine, but will now sell before it goes wrong after reading all the reports. No service has been good from Fiat don’t buy one. I am scared to keep it in case I get stuck with repairs in the future.
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The fan speed problem is just a dodgy connector at the fan in the passanger footwell - Alan from Dumbartonshire
Same here, fan working intermittently. Reported three times while under warranty and told each time no problem. My van was three years old in September and a connection under the glove box caught fire on Friday. Took it to Fiat to be told that it’s nothing to do with them and they are prepared to pay nothing to getting it fixed. Speechless but I shouldn’t be as when I bought the van, I had the blue and me system fitted which never worked. After 100 calls to customer service and countless hours on the phone, I gave up. My company has grown over the last three years and we will be running four vans next year. Guess how many of them will be Fiats... - Rick Allen from England
Submitted: 08/01/2010 21:25:14 | ID: 4252
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We live in an area which has snow and ice every year, and at the end of a steep drive. I took delivery of my Fiat Panda 4 x 4 at the end of September and am completely delighted. It is very comfortable, light and easy to drive, holds the road well and will do any speeds I want - up to the limit. Since December 18th we have have temperatures below freezing, with since just before Christmas, up to 30cms of snow. The Fiat has been absolutely brilliant in slush, deeper snow and on slopes. It gives a great sense of confidence. Added to this, it looks so cute and makes everyone smile. If you need a small car for all conditions, buy this!
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Like Janet, I will soon be moving to Inverness-shire and am looking to buy a new small 4x4 Jan/Feb this year. I would like to ask Janet her views on visibility as I will be driving a lot on single track roads and need to be able to reverse park easily and avoid any ditches at the roadside etc. margaretdon@tiscali.co.uk - Margaret Duffy from Perthshire
Husband kept going on about the Fiat Panda 4x4 but could never find one for sale in our area. Eventually found one an hour away from us. Just bought my Fiat Panda 4x4, collect it tomorrow. We live down a 1/2 mile single private road in the middle of nowhere and have had problems getting my Peugot 307 out during the snow that we have had. Did not want to pay over the top with running costs for another 4x4 just to reap its 4x4 benefits for only 1-2 months of the year. Did you put on special winter tyres and can anyone recommend tyres for winter use? - Else Mills from Aberdeenshire
Hi! We live on the North York Moors in the middle of a forest. Last winter in all that snow it never let us down. Chugged through the snow without a slip. Only thing was it slipped a bit on thick ice but then so does all other 4 X 4 s. Very dependable and reliable car - Peter Ward from Yorkshire
Submitted: 01/01/2010 20:10:28 | ID: 4224
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In the first two years I owned the car it had several water leaks in to the vehicle (around the right back door and boot). Also had a problem with the master cylinder where it had to be replaced. Also had problems with view through rear window, massive blind spots and had major problems going over square speed bumps where the bottom of the car would ground out doing damage to the bottom of the car. Needless to say I no longer own the vehicle.
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You say the car bottoms out on speed humps. Take your foot off of the middle pedal before you go over the bump and you will have no problem. You are braking too late and the front of the car is diving under braking. Learn to drive! - Sticky from Cambridgeshire
Submitted: 31/12/2009 20:52:57 | ID: 4216
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Superb car with superb power.
Submitted: 26/12/2009 14:29:16 | ID: 4132
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BRAKE FAILURE!?! I have owned my 2.3JTD 110hp since new in Mar’06, it is the last of the Mk3’s before the latest ’ugly model’. Mine runs a Spider Tuning Box at 156bhp (Dyno’d!) and I have to say that overall it has been just great with problems whatsoever until now! I’ve done a bit of web surfing lookong for an answer but it doesn’t seem to be a issue: I last used the van yesterday morning and all was okay; tonight there is -8 degrees of frost outside and I just tried to use it and the brakes don’t work at all. There is no resistance in the peddle which can be pushed to the floor. I can pump up pressure but afterwards the peddle goes back to no resistance. I checked to fluid resovior and the brake fluid level is as it should be so what’s happening?
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UPDATE: Now the freezing weather and all the snow has all gone I finally got around to having a good close look at the van; particularly because I was facing a £200 tow-in charge. Firstly, what a stupid shape the brake fluid resovior is: The portion you readily see at the front with the filling cap is filled with brake fluid and when you take the cap off it’s full! However look more closely around the side, under the bulk towards the back and it’s virtually empty! Stange thing is I did a full visual inspection of all the brake and clutch lines and the brakes themselves and could find no evidence of a leak whatsoever. I filled up the reservoir with new fluid and bled the brakes through in the normal way which seems to have cured the problem. The brake pedal is now rock hard and the brakes are sharp and much better than they were before so I can only imagine the brake fluid level has been low since it was new. And all this despite the van going through 3 annual services at a Fiat Main Dealer Garage. I usually do my own servicing so I know it’s been done right but this van was under warranty from new, however now that’s expired I’ll be doing my own servicing from now on - Richard Wilkinson from Warwickshire
May be leaking into the servo? - Paddy from Ireland
Could have been empty since new, and when experienced 8 degree of frost the seals hardened and fluid bypassed them, pedal going to floor - Chris Hardy from England
Submitted: 23/12/2009 22:10:17 | ID: 4124
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As far as comfort goes, the Fiat Scudo has none. After a 3 hour journey your entire lower back and legs ache badly, both driver and passenger. The most comfortable area of the vehicle seemed to be plywood decking in the rear, the seats in the front are made from stone, which is possibly also the reason behind the lack of fuel economy. It seems a 2.0 litre petrol Audi has far better economy. When handling speed bumps at high speed in central London, the van performs nicely, the suspension taking the pain well. The only problem here was the lack of a partition between the driver and rear, though having said this we could avoid flying objects using the rear view mirror, which the rest of the time would look at the rear of the van having no windows!! Finally the cup holders seem capable of holding nothing more than a shot glass.
Submitted: 17/12/2009 21:11:36 | ID: 4106
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I looked at many people carriers and vans but this Scudo licks them all, very quiet and the two litre diesel multi jet turbo has loads of power and comfy spacious driving position. It has all the mod cons and looks good too although I don´t like the newer version with big lights and the loss of the small side forward windows but this 2006 car/van is ace, love it to bits and my mates want one too.
Submitted: 14/12/2009 22:18:31 | ID: 4093
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This car is sluggish , it feels like the brakes are always on and so much condensation it sometimes rains inside the car. STEER CLEAR.
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Don’t use the recycle control on the aircon, unless you are trying to cool down the car when it’s really hot weather - Angus from New Zealand
Submitted: 11/12/2009 22:52:20 | ID: 4077
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I bought a ducato van in July ’07, it has a ’shudder’ problem. Fiat UK has told me they have no part for this van to stop the shudder in reverse gear. This is a load c**p because they have it for their motorhome model and it is the same make of van. What a load of C**P.
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It’s not C**P, it’s true! There is no cure available, both vans & motorhomes with the smaller 2 & 2.2 ltr engine and manual box have the problem of shuddering when reversing up hill. Fiat’s advice is to avoid having to do it! Source: Motorhome Monthly Magazine. The larger 3ltr engine and Smaller Engines fitted with Automatic Gear Boxes don’t have the problem, these are more popular amongst Motorhome Makers so perhaps that’s what you are thinking of - Richard Wilkinson from Warwickshire
The motorhome gearbox is not the same as the normal van - Kev Roberts from Yorkshire
My 2007 motorhome was taken to the garage in November, 2009 to rectify the juddering. Fitted new clutch, engine mounts and reduced ratio reverse gear. Came back not a lot better. Customer relations lady reply to this was that it will never be a 100%. Motorhome currently back in garage (now in third week) as it wouldn’t start and they have said the timing has jumped and guess what the third year warranty doesn’t cover timing belts etc. My vehicle has done a mere 8000 miles. Hope you get rid soon, seems I’ll be stuck with mine - Caroline Harkness from Dumfriesshire
Hi, guess what? I have a 3.0L Auto Ducato Maxi Motorhome, and YES, it does judder/burn clutch in reverse! Also proved this to be the case when I test drove a manual version. Fiat have acknowledged the problem, but no recall or fix that seems to work. Opinion is that the reverse gear ratio is too high, so without a gearbox mod’ there is little chance of fix. Apart from the judder the vehicled has been fine, and the auto complements the 156hp very well, with the only annoyance being cruise control which tends to hunt from gear to gear or drop 2 gears rather than one on slight inclines - Ash Pocock from Hampshire
Submitted: 10/12/2009 12:51:24 | ID: 4062
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I bought my Stilo from new as I liked the looks and interior. Its now done 49000 miles and the only problem has been front suspension bushes. It will cruise all day at 90mph and at a constant 70 mph will return 50 mpg. It’s fairly comfortable and roomy, does everything I ask of it and I think its a great car for the price. when I was looking for a car I test drove a SEAT at more money and there was no comparison in build quality, especially the interior. Pity they stopped making them as I think its replacement is nowhere near as good looking.
Submitted: 10/12/2009 11:15:39 | ID: 4057
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Complete c**p! This thing has cost me a fortune in repairs, mostly electrical but also suspension and steering. The windows and roof have a mind of their own and it eats batteries. The newest of the very long list is the fabled ’loose connection’, the engine is therefore completely dead and no-one can tell me why! I warn you now, walk away. Do not buy a Stilo. Go anywhere else but here!!
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Exactly the same has just happened to my car today!!! I was driving along and it felt like something snapped and then lost all power so had to pull over. On the dash board display it said system failure - loose connection. I had to get towed home as it wouldnt start or anything and now have to wait ’til after Christmas to call the very pricey Fiat garage! - Nicola from Yorkshire
Submitted: 05/12/2009 22:51:57 | ID: 4019
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A great car with loads of space, great to drive and great fun.
Submitted: 03/12/2009 22:08:03 | ID: 4016
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A truely great car in every way, well done Fiat.
Submitted: 03/12/2009 22:05:10 | ID: 4015
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I bought a six berth motorhome last summer. I can cruise at 75 mph all day with no problem and lots of power. No problem with the g/box. Very happy with it.
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I bought a 2004 Motorhome 2.8jtd and I’m worried about getting done for overspeeding. I have to keep eyes on the speedometer but it’s an excellent runner. No problem whatsoever - M Mansha from Scotland
Submitted: 03/12/2009 21:18:28 | ID: 4013
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I bought it from new and it has got to be the worst decision I have made. There have been numerous problems with condensation, suspension , glove box and seat belt. At the moment I am considering taking it to another dealership because I am starting to have problems with condensation and a knocking noise at the rear. The condensation becomes an even bigger problem when the frost comes because it ices up on the inside of the windows. Therefore I need to scrape off the ice then wipe down the inside. For my troubles Fiat awarded me a £50 voucher (how big of them)Needless to say I will not be buying another Fiat ever again.
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Hi, I’ve just phoned up Fiat because I’ve just started having very bad condensation inside my car. They tried to say that this was normal, but I’ve insisted it’s not as the car is only 3 months old and none of the other cars on the road seem to be as bad as mine in the mornings. Did they ever get to the bottom of the problem with your car?. I have had a look at other forums and a lot of them are saying that if you have the air flow set to recirculation, this can be the cause of it. Mine is always set on that, so i’m going to give it a try - Patricia Hunt from England
You should NEVER have the heater set to ’recirculation’ - except perhaps if stuck in heavy traffic, to keep exhaust fumes out! It must always be on ’fresh air’. Try it - there will be no condensation, after your car dries out of course - Roy Allingham from Lanarkshire
My brand new Fiat 500 also has an extreme condensation problem, and I have also had to scrape solid ice from inside of windows. Glyn Hopkin had the car for 3 weeks and could not "recreate the problem". I had the car back for one day and took photographs of the problem! including condensation in rear lights. They just don’t want to know and do not return my calls, it’s been a nightmare and I wish I had NEVER bought the car. If you have an old reliable car my advice would be to hang on to it - Hayley Duncan from England
Submitted: 03/12/2009 20:38:55 | ID: 4008
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I got the Fiat Ducato 2.2 100hp van in 2007 absolutley brand new. After approx 7000 miles it was in the garage with an engine management problem. Fiat sent out a ’specialist’ to diagnose the problem, which took over 2 weeks. Luckily the dealer lent us a fiat doblo replacement vehicle with no first gear selection, and had to fight to get third gear! A couple of months later the van was back in the garage for another 2 weeks, this time it had many problems, e.g catalyst cracked, new turbo, oil leaks, in total this van has had 3 new turbos in less than 2 years. The van has had a problem with the tick over since day one, which has been attempted to be fixed but never lasts more than one day, then the tick over is faulty again and the van just cuts out. This van has been in the garage that many times I have honestly lost count, but we have averaged it’s every 8-12 weeks that it has to go back in. The van is knackered again and cut out on me on a busy road. It can’t stay running on idle or low revs, it just cuts out. We have rung Fiat many times and they offer NO help or advice what so ever, and will not admit to any fault of their own! The van has only done 40,000 miles and sounds like a bag of knackers. Also worth mentioning: the wipers have broken due to no fault of mine, both headlight motors have blown, both headlights hold water and are now mouldy inside, we have had the floor replaced in the cab due to a big hole appearing after 7000 miles. DO NOT BUY A FIAT, SERIOUSLY. NO CUSTOMER SUPPORT AT ALL. USELESS
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I have a similar engine problem with my 2.3 multijet 120bhp, it will not start. 2 weeks at dealer and now Fiat tech guy is coming to look 2moz. Hope he finds something... Jason Trevor from Flintshire
Submitted: 30/11/2009 15:26:28 | ID: 3992
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The best car i’ve had! So far had no problems during my 11000 miles of use. In my view the best looking car of its size and great value at £10400 for the 1.9 diesel Sporting, which has high spec and a super engine thats very fast and does 45mpg.
Submitted: 30/11/2009 15:07:32 | ID: 3988
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I bought mine from new in 2001. Currently I have clocked up 225000 miles. It uses no oil, i’ve had no leaks, it’s never broke down once. I’ve just serviced it my self, changing the oil every 5000 miles and I have fitted a new set of heater plugs at 180000 miles, this thing is bullet proof. No rust whatsoever and has never failed an mot, a fantastic van!
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I’ve owned my Scudo 1.9 td since 2004, it was first registered in 2001. It’s now got 256,000 miles on the clock and the head gasket has just gone! But up until then, it has been superb. I’m a taxi driver, so it’s really been worked hard but apart from an oil leak, it really has earned its money. There is not one area of rust on the body either. Having said that, I wouldn’t buy a new one, after reading the reviews on here! - Andy Boulton from Hampshire
Submitted: 27/11/2009 22:20:08 | ID: 3976
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I’ve had the camper for just under 2 years now. I’m currently on my 3rd engine battery.
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Basically my advice to you sir is to buy a Solar Panel Trikle Charger from Maplins that sits on the dashboard and plugs into the accessory socket. Then all you need to do is ignor people whose main purpose in life is to sell new batteries to gullible people who don’t need them. You cannot possibly need to be on your third battery, charge it up if you can’t use the vehicle more to keep it charged - Richard Wilkinson from Warwickshire
I highly recommend this as I fitted one to my camper and a bigger one to my caravan which is all 12v lighting and have had no problems with battery. Great advice, take it - Ronnie Watson from Scotland
Submitted: 27/11/2009 22:01:24 | ID: 3972
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I was slightly apprehensive about purchasing the Fiat, especially after reading the reviews on What Car, Top Gear etc. Let me tell you now this car is phenomenal, yes the steering does feel slightly light but this is a small issue when you consider the whole car. The build quality is fantastic, I did get caught out in thinking the build quality was questionable when I initially got the car as there was a persistent jingling sound. It turned out to be the keys hanging from the ignition, since then not a creak or groan. The car handles great if you have faith in the suspension it delivers in spades and it pulls like a train on the motorway. I have absolutely no reservations about recommending this car and it’s also nice to drive something out of the ordinary with some Italian flair. Don’t follow the crowd, turn a few heads and buy a Bravo Sport! I did and I love it :]
Submitted: 27/11/2009 21:58:55 | ID: 3971
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I can’t go out at night anymore because of the crappy lights, I can’t see a thing. Are puntos made with dim lights or something? I even bought bright bulbs and it seems the actual lights don’t let any light through, it’s so dangerous. I have a 95. Also, it keeps overheating and making strange noises but think it’s because it’s getting old. Does anyone else have a problem with night driving?
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You will have your beams dipped, silly - nme from England
Hey, your lights are probably out of alignment, possibly due to a slight knock (that’s what happened to me, anyway!) - James Goodhew from England
Submitted: 22/11/2009 13:20:40 | ID: 3931
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Had I done my home work I would not have bought this vehicle. It’s nice to drive on the freeways and main highways but I hit a medium to small dog on the highway and was stunned by the amount of damage. The vehicle is weak in body (plastic and tinplate) and there is no front end protection. I use the vehicle (a winnebago RV) to roam Australia and do not dare take it off a sealed road as it performs badly with wheel slip (they have tried to correct this with some stupid electronic device ,so they know about the problem.) The DUCATO MAXI VAN is a delivery vehicle so should be ok on all formed roads sealed and unsealed, weather permiting on unsealed. I have contacted FIAT and they informed me by email that I should not drive on unsealed gravell roads?????? Enough said. I rate this vehicle as poor for Australian conditions....I will be surprised if this report is ever published.
Submitted: 20/11/2009 07:35:32 | ID: 3919
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I took a chance back in 2005 and bought a new Fiat Ducato. The van gets serviced every 15000 miles and is a diesel. 60 000 miles with no breakdowns and still going strong.
Submitted: 17/11/2009 09:44:24 | ID: 3899
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I’ve had my Seicento for 10 months and have been throught 3 clutch cables in that time. Due to poor design, cables snapping are a common fault and that said i’m cutting my losses and selling it.
Submitted: 16/11/2009 13:13:08 | ID: 3893
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Load of rubbish. Don’t buy a used one if you need to get to work in the morning. Trust me, walk away.
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Best car for the money - Phil from Devon
I have owned 1.2 Stilo 2002 and haven’t had any problems. Very good drive and very cheap on parts look after it and will look after you. I now have a Stilo jtd and like it very much. Only one insurance group higher than the 1.2 petrol and goes like a rocket, very nice with rare electric seats and leather - Mark Franchi from Essex
Submitted: 14/11/2009 23:56:41 | ID: 3883
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I bought a brand new Fiat Doblo Cargo four years ago (05 plate). It’s a 1.9jtd (105 hp) and does about 50 mpg. It is very reliable, nice and comfortable to drive and quite fast which is great for busy roundabouts. I’m a plumber/gas fitter and a service agent for a couple of boiler manufacturers, which means the van does get a hell of a slamming too. The only thing I would say to watch out for is the gear stick. It is very short and can be troublesome to engage at times. The gearstick once completely snapped and I had to drive home with a mole grip attached to have it welded. Other than this I think the Doblo is a brilliant van and would recommend it to anyone.
Submitted: 14/11/2009 13:52:13 | ID: 3867
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My Stilo worked fantastically for 2 years and put on 80-odd k miles (41k to 118k) problem-free except for bits and pieces here and there (tyres, pads, odd bearing- only thing major was a new fuel pump). I never got all these airbag/engine warnings that some have suffered. Only things I hated were the front headlamps which are ludicrously hard to change bulbs. Also worth noting is that the back seatbelts struggle to go round some carry-cots/child seats. Otherwise a great drive, superb engine with decent economy (though certainly prefers a motorway run to town tedium, even a 10-mile jaunt on an open road improves it by 10mpg). However 3 weeks ago all of a sudden the car refused to go into reverse, either finding 4th instead or nothing at all. Then it would do it once, but not again for an hour. New cables were suggested and fitted- no change. Decided I need new car as cost of new box astronomical (and will that cure it? Can’t afford to p*** £1000 away). Hey presto first dealer I see says he had another Stilo part ex’ed to him the week before, on driving it away from auction it developed exactly the same fault! Another one I saw today says it’s been seen on lots of them, some with as little as 60k, and is basically incurable (something about the selection process getting fused/tangled IIRC). Such a pity cos it’s got a perfect engine capable of 200k. High-mileage Stilo owners beware- this could be you soon!
Submitted: 10/11/2009 10:13:19 | ID: 3855
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Good van BUT Fiat Warranty & Customer Service is without doubt the worst I’ve ever seen. The 3rd year warranty covers nothing! I bought 3 years cove new in 2007, wish I had gone to Ford as the Warranty is a true 3 year no quibble cover!
Submitted: 10/11/2009 09:56:08 | ID: 3850
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What a disappointment this van is! The mpg is worse than the old model. The clutch and gearbox never felt right from new, the shuddering is awful in reverse but fiat told me this is not a common complaint but it obviously is. After 12 months the rear doors have split where the hinge bolts to the inner skin (check these out before your doors fall off.) The replacement doors lasted 9 months then the same thing occurred but Fiat then washed there hands of this problem so this is going to cost me lots of money. The doors are generally flimsy and squeak and rattle so bad that it drives me mad!! It’s going to be a sprinter for me next time!!
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There have been numerous reports about reversing (mainly uphill) from a lot of motorhome owners and Fiat now do accept it is a fault, as they have tried various repairs, new clutch, modified rev gear (original fit too high), new engine mounts to name a few. Some have been modified with sucess. Read problems in the MMM motorcaravan mag - Miguel Bottle from Kent
I am trying to get my 2008 auto-trail 2.3 diesel 6 speed gear box, which has reverse gear judder, (the judder is caused by the reverse gear having a higher gear ratio I’m told) to have the modification as suggested by Fiat (new stiffer eng mounting and re map reverse gear), then if that cures the judder, Fiat will go no further. This probably will cure the judder, but not the problem. When you think they allowed these vehicles onto the market 2/3 years ago without understanding the problems, what chance do we have trying to make them understand how dangerous this can be? - John Mackay from Somerset
Might help if this Citroen/Peugeot/Fiat had a proper gearbox in it for a start with a PROPER reverse gear (syncromesh, like the Ford and Merc). At least you’d be able to back up silently without people turning heads to wonder where the hell that invisible whiny, backwarding-car-noise is coming from... As for the shudder, wouldn’t that be something to do with the suspension and the fact it’s a long wheelbase? I had similar problems with the old Renault Master - C R from Norfolk
I have just bought a 2007 Auto Trail Cheyenne 632 Fiat with 2.3 D 130bhp and 6 speed GB with cruise control and am finding it dificult to find anybody to give me a rough MPG for this 35000kg campervan. Could you help me in this matter and e-mail me on peafaulk@btinternet.com Thanks. - Peter Faulkner from Norfolk
Submitted: 08/11/2009 15:24:56 | ID: 3845
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I saved hard to buy this motorhome. I think I get about 75mpg as it spends most of its time on a breakdown truck. I’ve been to 2 Fiat garages now and can do a journey of about 200 miles before the AA comes out.
Submitted: 22/10/2009 08:24:35 | ID: 3757
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I drove expensive German cars for over fifteen years but after having warranty issues with one of the big names I thought enough is enough. I had hired Fiats on holiday and liked them. I love my Grande Punto, is a capable economical and a well thought out drivers car. It’s not perfect but what is? I have paid more than twice as much for a car and it wasn’t perfect either. I paid extra for leather steering wheel and gear knob and through the lanes of Devon its performance and handling is not startling but competent and satisfying. By comparison other mass produced makes are very wooden and soulless.
Submitted: 22/10/2009 08:18:25 | ID: 3755
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My previous Scudo was brilliant, the new version has been a lot of bother. It has spent about six weeks at the main dealers, two oil leaks, windscreen split down the middle, rattling heat shield, suspension knocking noise still unresolved, exhaust gas recycle valve replaced after vehicle engine cut out several times (very scary on roundabouts with no power steering!). Also economy mode is frustrating, after being parked for ten or fifteen minutes with engine off, radio goes off and windows will not wind up. So, if you’ve had a break you have to start the engine to shut the windows before you get back to the job - some economy. Still not a bad van though, maybe I just got unlucky.
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I'm interested to read that several other people are complaining about the suspension as we also have a 57 plate Scudo 120, which we bought new, that does very little hard work. We have recently noticed that the suspension is knocking yet again, as this is not the first time we have had this issue! Fiat replaced the anti-roll bar bushes on the van when it was just 6 just months old! Now its 2 years old and has just had it's second service; now the knocking noise is back! We have been told by Fiat that this is now going to cost £pound300 to repair . However, when we asked Fiat if there is a general problem they have said no(surprise) - John Wright from Warwickshire
I was interessted to read your review and curious to know if you have experienced any hesitation in acceleration at 2000/2250 revs? Something that is apparently related to EGR. I have an 07 Scudo and have had nothing but trouble with it including 3 clutch/fly wheel assembly, 2 turbos, continuous anti-roll bar bushings, broken cam shaft wishbone and now this hesitation, which is not registering on their computer - Ged Carter from England
I have a 120 57 plate that has done 46k miles as a taxi in York. I have all the same problems. It’s about to have its 2nd set of anti roll bar bushes but they tell me that now its in its 3rd yr of warranty it doesn’t cover wear or tear; its last set were fitted only a year ago. It has clutch judder but only when it is sat in traffic, it performs ok when driving normally but as soon as it hits slow traffic the clutch starts juddering like mad. It pulls to the left also, the front end shakes on acceleration in 2nd gear, the engine revs on its own when changing down gears and there’s a real bad engine flat spot when changing from 1st to 2nd gear. The dealer said its probably the EGR valve? The driver’s seat belt fell off, the brakes are rubbish and there is a different interior rattle every day (no exaggeration). The centre armrest has broken, the ariel disintegrated when the jet wash flashed over it, once turbo kicks in it kicks black smoke out and its fuel economy is ranging from only 23mpg to 35 mpg around town. I went to the main dealer today to book it in for the work and they tell me the 3rd year warranty only covers broken mechanical parts and not things that are worn, i.e. anti roll bar and clutch; if the clutch was worn it would judder every time not just in traffic right? The only good thing i can say about this 120 is it's a nice looking thing - Gary Wrigglesworth from Yorkshire
Submitted: 20/10/2009 09:43:18 | ID: 3736
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I purchased my Panda in December 07 and have had three problems up to date October 09. 1, rear discs binding after braking, loud squealing. Resolved after 12 weeks. 2, after approximately 12 months a sound like a worn cam from 1000rpm on but not at tick over; this problem has not been resolved to date. I was told by Fiat UK that as it did not effect the running of the car I had to put up with it. This is not in the sales literatue that I read before my purchase. 3, loud knocking from the left rear wheel area, loose bumper fouling on tow bar, new rear shocks fitted, dealer now thinks it may be a sub frame problem. I noticed today that the knocking seems to stop when the brakes are applied, could the brake caliper be loose? Any answers please.
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I’ve had similar problems with my Panda . Replaced rear brakes with Ferodo brand and no more squealing. Also after 12 months the car sounded like a ferrari at low revs, this was due to bad weld on the exhaust got it replaced and no more problems. On my car some knocking noises come from right rear wheel area after fitting a tow bar but nothing to be worried about, the main reasons for this is in many 4x4’s there is: raised suspension, rear diff, material tolerances, driving in hot or cold conditions, rear wheels being to much or or not enough inflated... On my car this knocking stops as soon as there is over 60 kilos of weight in the rear compartment. I took out rear seats in my car because I don’t need them so it is too light in back when empty . Also check out how do you inflate your tyres: 2,2 in front , 2,0 rear, this is very important! I’m from Slovenia , not NI - Henrik from Northern Ireland
Submitted: 16/10/2009 15:31:02 | ID: 3731
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I have had no problems, one recall upgrade on fuse wires. I love the van, but... as a courier this van, although there is no denying that it works hard, in the first 6 months had a recall and I also reported a problem with check strap on the driver door. There was no problem, they replaced it. At the time I also pointed out rear driver door had dent coming out from inside van door. Van had first year service with Fiat, no problems. Now, after 8 months I have taken it back to report fault with rear doors not closing properly and that the top hinges on both doors the metal underneath has started to break open. In my disgust they said I had waited too long and that the check strap was broken and this caused the CONSEQUENTIAL damage to the top hinges of the rear door and this is not covered by warranty. So I took it a little further to Fiat customer service and they have returned an offer of £100 towards repair work and that I have to pay for the rest. As I feel ripped off due to the fact the warranty manager and Fiat customer services have made this decision on photos I do not feel that this is a fair warranty decision or customer care. I will not purchase another, cheers Fiat. This van has 3 years warranty and there is nowhere in the warranty manual does it say consequential damage is not covered or that you have to be a vehicle expert to notice damage being caused to your van so you can report it quicker. I have the van since Dec 07.
Submitted: 13/10/2009 09:21:39 | ID: 3716
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13 months ago we bought a Ci Carioca 705 motorhome with a 2.3 multijet diesel 6 speed mounted garbox. We have 2,000 miles on the clock and a serious reverse gear judder problem - daren’t even reverse onto the levelling blocks! Fiat have done 2 modifications. Sent up their technical man to test drive it. Judder is just as bad, but they say they have done everything they intend to do and that it is within normal limits. Our life savings and retirement dreams stand abandoned in the drive - we just cannot risk the expense of having to replace a burnt out clutch not covered under warranty. Our advice - DON’T TOUCH A FIAT WITH A BARGEPOLE. THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN.
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I had to reverse up a hill in Spain coming back from Morroco. The engine and gearbox lept all over the place even when slipping the clutch, which I nearly burnt out. When I came back to the UK and took it to my local Fiat commercial garage, Fish Brothers in Swindon. Fiat fitted a new bigger engine and gearbox mountings and said to try it again,which I did but it was still the same (reverse gear was too high, about the same as 2nd foreward) I complained to Fiat HQ in Slough and to Fiat in Milan and they sent a new clutch and new gearbox with a lower reverse gear, which Fish Brothers have fitted. This seems to have cured the problem. P.S. Chelston Motorhomes at Wellinton have fitted loads of new gearboxes to some of their customers 2 year old'ish motorhomes anymore info required phone me on 01993 843310 as i came across this site by accident and would not know how to get back to it - Pete Ranger from Oxfordshire
Submitted: 13/10/2009 09:16:12 | ID: 3715
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My Scudo has had 3 clutches. It has covered 16,000 miles and has also had 2 drive shafts. It still shudders on take up of clutch. HELP!
Submitted: 09/10/2009 12:06:21 | ID: 3695
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The van had to have a new starter motor with less than 10 miles on clock. It has been back twice for gearbox judder and vibration, the dealer confirms there is a problem. A Fiat technician road tested the vehicle and does not agree. Fiat will not give me the technician’s report. I just hate reversing uphill and I will never buy another Fiat comercial vehicle.
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Submitted: 09/10/2009 11:57:02 | ID: 3693
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What can I say? It is a superb car to own. I bought one second hand and friends told me that I shouldn’t bother buying one, that the engines are pretty s****y and that I will have lots of problems with suspension. But they were wrong. I had had few problems when I bought it with electronics but now I’m loving it. Great engine, handles well, great on economy and great on how it lets you feel. Bad sides are noise on motorway and brakes, when you break hard it feels unstable. Superb car.
Submitted: 29/09/2009 11:11:31 | ID: 3634
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The 5 stars on this report are nothing to do with a Ducato... they are for the people who have written reviews on here. We saw a Ducato on the road and liked the look of it so we went to a few dealers and looked them over. Naturally the dealers told us just what wonderful vehicles they are and very nearly talked us into putting down a deposit there and then. Because its a lot of money we decided to come home, think about it and then make our decision but I know my husband had already made up his mind to buy one and was just humouring me. I decided to look online for some reviews/opinions/etc to make up my mind one way or another .... I found this site and I am soooooooooooo grateful for the honesty of all the contributors. We will NOT be buying one. Thank you all for not letting me waste my money.
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Hi just read your review I am sorry that you have been put off the Ducato by negative feedback. In my view the problem is that most motorhomes are overweight and are built on a basic chassis with a small engine. If you are still looking for motorhome make sure it has the 160 engine if based on the Fiat Ducato and it has air suspension, if not have the air suspension fitted as an aftermarket accessory, this applies to any make not just Fiat. I have just left feedback on the web site and reads as follows; We purchased a New Fiat Ducato 160 Maxi extra long and high van with the Comfortmatic gearbox that we had converted into a motorhome of our design. We did have a few teething problems however the problems where promptly rectified under the warranty by a Iveco/Fiat dealer in Hildenbourgh, Kent. The dealer went out of the way to accommodate us and even lent us a small van! We have now covered almost 20k miles travelling around Europe and the vehicle has performed faultlessly. In my opinion a lot of the problems reported especially with motorhomes is because of the low vehicle specification of the base chassis. We ordered our vehicle on a 4 ton chassis with the 160 engine, self levelling air suspension, extra large wheels & increased load index tyres, climate control, light & rain sensor engine sump shield etc etc. As with most motorhomes on the road they are overweight, we had to have the GVW increased and re-taxed as a private HGV because of the fully laden weight. The vehicle is very stable on the road even with high crosswinds on motorways; in fact I now prefer to drive this rather than our car due to the ride, seats and the higher driving position. If you are buying a motorhome based on any vehicle manufactures chassis make sure that you go for the highest specification possible, you are asking for trouble with a small engine and standard suspension otherwise you are just asking for trouble. Also bear in mind 80% of motorhomes are built on a Fiat chassis therefore you are going to have a lot more feedback than for other manufactures - Phil Roberts from England
I bought my Fiat Ducato 2.3 multijet 2009 model and as of today I have driven 122,000km as a courier vehicle and so far no problems. I think people using these vehicles are not maintaining on time or they are mishandling. This is the only reason they have problems. As driving in courier line, I think I give my van a tough time but so far it is all right - Wagendra Reddy from New Zealand
Submitted: 28/09/2009 10:29:53 | ID: 3628
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Four and a half years, nearly 40,000 miles, not a single fault, no rattles, great style, and endless fun. An object of undiminished family affection. The car has done everything that’s expected of it and nothing that hasn’t been. For the occasional large load, I’ve rented larger cars; these have of course been faster, but none, including a nearly new BMW 3-series diesel on an Italian holiday, has been so intelligently designed or such a pleasure, in all conditions, to drive; among other smaller cars, an Opel Corsa, also nearly new, on another European holiday this year, was a revealingly coarse contrast. (A recent recall for a permeable ABS control unit is a mild irritation, but FIAT is dealing with this efficiently and of course, no cost.)
Submitted: 23/09/2009 08:36:19 | ID: 3601
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Rubbish! Dealers unhelpful, spent last 6 months in and out of the garage with particulate filter problems. The dealership tried to charge me £1600 although the car was in warranty and had only done 17000 miles. Threatened legal action and it was fixed by "blowing a bit of air down it"... It broke down 5 miles later. Please do not buy any kind of Fiat, the dealers are unsupportive (Sunwin of Derby) and the car is simply terrible. You have been warned.
Submitted: 22/09/2009 12:03:43 | ID: 3598
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See my posts for the Peugeot Expert Tepee which is the same car - http://www.roadtestreports.co.uk/road-test-reports/Peugeot/Expert_Tepee/
Submitted: 11/09/2009 11:42:20 | ID: 3551
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Over 100kms. I have owned everything else but this is the best drive - bar none. I average 26mpg (no wind deflector). The only consumables are tyres, brakes, track rod end, oil & filter every 20k. Dealers not very well clued up but a real pleasure to use.
Submitted: 11/09/2009 11:39:28 | ID: 3550
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Great little car for running around town. Annoying ’vibration’ noise when driving. Seems to be coming from drivers side dashboard area? Garage cannot find where problem is anyone else had any problems? Also problem with the airbag light [drivers] staying on, can anyone help please...
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Hi, my Clio had the airbag light on and my garage didn’t know what it was but eventually we rang Renault and they said that it’s where the wires are under the passenger seats. I had put a CD case and it had moved the wires. Maybe if you store anything under your seats then move it and adjust the wires to see if that helps? Kate Duffy from England
I have a 52 punto and mine makes a strange noise as well. I think mine is coming from the radiator or something because it only makes the noise when I turn the heater on, which is all the time now. Yours might be the same thing? - Beckie from Lancashire
My mate brought a Fiat Punto and there was vibrating coming from somewhere. Her steering rack / power steering box needed replacing - Mark M from Leicestershire
Submitted: 10/09/2009 12:18:07 | ID: 3547
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I bought a Fiat Doblo second-hand 3 weeks ago, sold as seen. I had a nightmare with it last week catalytic converter snapped off - it had been welded up, the previous owner had clutch replaced 6 months ago, great I thought, until the fly wheel packed up costing me another £650. Although when I got back out garage another problem wheel bearings (both) very noisy and abs light on, garage seems to think that taking out driveshafts has disturbed the wheel bearings??????? Any helpful feedback please on this????
Submitted: 10/09/2009 09:52:02 | ID: 3542
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Really surprised me! Had a VW Transporter before and this wipes the floor with it. Never missed a beat in 60000 miles.
Submitted: 10/09/2009 09:05:46 | ID: 3540
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This van was easily the worst purchase we ever made. In the first week the heap wouldn’t start due to an engine management problem. The dealership put it down to jump starting!!! A week old van??? After this the gear box rattled like a bag of spanners and had to be completely replaced. To continue the windscreen washers failed for the first time and the entire door trim came off in my hand when closing the door. The central glove box then opened on its own and cracked itself nicely - it now has to be permanently locked to keep it in one piece. Next the windscreen washers failed again and had to be replaced. On came the engine warning light again and the van would stall on motorways losing all power for braking, steering and lights - nice... Now the side door decided to pop off - got that fixed but the closing sensor on the door then developed a problem and we had to disable the buzzer as it was driving us mental. The washers failed again and the drivers mirror has turned into a lettuce leaf - flapping in the wind and cannot be adjusted - the only alternative is a complete replacement at �400 plus vat. As i write we’ve been to the dealer again to have the windscreen washers replaced again and the door sensor repaired again. Nightmare - looks good, loads of room so one star but what a heap - do not buy this poor mans van!!!!!
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Could you please tell us how to disable the buzzer? It is driving us crazy also. Thanks - Chris Lloyd from England
Submitted: 10/09/2009 09:02:07 | ID: 3539
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I bought my campervan in June 2009. It’s petrol but nicer to drive than a deisel. I’ve been all over the place in it and think it’s great. I bought it from Highbridge, near Brean; two brothers have a small garage with abought 12 on the front. They told me people are getting trouble with the new Fiat Ducato’s but the older ones seem better.
Submitted: 08/09/2009 08:52:46 | ID: 3535
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Can honestly say this is the best car I have ever owned. In the old days when I had money I have owned a Jaguar XJ8 and XKR (Supercharged), BMW’s etc etc... NONE of which have given me as much pound for pound enjoyment as my Marea. Have done the brakes and suspension drop links since I have owned it (three years so far), also had the cambelt done at 65K. The cambelt was quite expensive at £300, but I now have a no worry, cheap to maintain and reliable car that has that the priceless ability to make you smile. I look forward to every journey. Not quite Ford Focus (had an ST170) handling, but competant, comfortable and solid on the road. The 155 especially is a true wolf in sheep’s clothing. Fuel consumption is 28-34 MPG, so its no eco-chariot. But all in all a brilliant car. The 2.4 diesel must be awsome!!
Submitted: 04/09/2009 15:50:48 | ID: 3516
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Bought 2 and had them fitted with freezer units - one has 210,000 miles - the other 110,000 miles - no problems - never let me down - fantastic vans and will buy 2 more when these are 5 years old - clutch changes can be expensive but hey - they do what they say on the tin!
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Second van has now covered 162000 miles and is still on the first clutch (first had a clutch at 110000) - both vans still drive like new - apart from consumables for servicing we’ve had to replace 1 exhaust only. Fuel consumption is excellent and we’re getting 30000 miles to a set of front tyres although admittedly the vast majority of runs are motorway. Now they are 5 years old I’m thinking of replacing them although reading the reviews here about the new shape 120s I’m really not sure that I want the new model - it sounds more trouble than it’s worth - pity since I like the looks but I can’t afford to have the vans in what sounds like an unsympathetic dealership repair shop - Alan Barlow from England
Submitted: 27/08/2009 08:32:31 | ID: 3482
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Had one for a year, when my g/f insisted we had to do camping. I put a towbar on it for a box trailer, and behold - the perfect pocket camper. It snowed that year, the plucky 1.2 engine and winter tyres made the car so much fun I went out rescuing Land Rovers with it. I loved that car. The downsides were being cut up in traffic as it was so small, and a lack of motorway speed. Fuel consumption was high with the car struggling to make 45mpg. Otherwise, brilliant. Later ones come with the much better diesel engine. Buy one if you can. They’re perfect for country types. Sliding rear seat option best.
Submitted: 26/08/2009 08:38:23 | ID: 3478
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Best little van I have ever bought!!! MPG-Excellent, better than Ford Connect. Drive-Excellent, better than Vauxhall Combo. Spacious, 3 seats, twin side loading doors, CD player, airbags, PAS, Thatcham approved alarm and immobiliser as STANDARD!!! You can also get the van serviced at any Peugeot / Citroen / Fiat dealer for £99!!!!
Submitted: 24/08/2009 13:29:04 | ID: 3471
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Never been disappointed by it. It starts, it goes. It’s broken down once in 102,000 miles when the exhaust fell off. It has no mod cons... no air con, or even central locking but the twin sliding side doors are a real bonus. Will get another one when the lease is up later this year - it has been much more relible than the Transit and Combo I had before - FACT!
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I have to agree, I bought my Fiat Scudo three years ago and I’ve never had a single problem with it! It’s easy to handle and fuel efficient - job done! - Anna Thomas from Derbyshire
Submitted: 19/08/2009 09:44:24 | ID: 3451
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I bought one last year second hand and have had so many problems with pulleys, tension belts, and the alternator. It is very clean outside but mechanically they are a nightmare. Also crank sensor problems and wishbone problems. Parts not cheap either - cam belt is a big expensive job as well.
Submitted: 17/08/2009 09:38:34 | ID: 3440
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Rubbish. Bought new from dealer 6 weeks ago. Broke down twice as we attempted to go on summer holiday. Has been in a FIAT garage in Redon, Brittany for 8 days now waiting a replacement part. Fiat Assistance are useless and there is no customer service. DO NOT BUY ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted: 13/08/2009 10:47:33 | ID: 3408
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We run an outdoors company, went out shopping for a Torneo and came home with the Scudo. Larger boot space, more headroom, we have hired every minibus on the market and this beats them all!! Very fuel efficient, holds road like a car, no problems, done 50k trouble free miles, only just replaced the original tyres, brakes still 50% at last service. Would buy another compared to any other on the market of this size.
Submitted: 12/08/2009 10:00:04 | ID: 3398
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Will be a geat car when Fiat fix the knocking noise that occurs when changing up gears at above 2000 revs... i.e. most of the time. The diesel version is apparently prone to this - buyer beware. After 4 months no fix as yet.
Submitted: 10/08/2009 09:00:07 | ID: 3392
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I bought the Grand Punto brand new in April 2008. Early April 2009 I had to take the car back for a knocking noise in the engine. Fiat kept the car for 4 months. End of July 2009 and they called me to say the problem has been fixed and that it was the diesel quiality and the injectors had been fixed. Three days after taking the car I had to return the car again. I was without a car for for months and never did they ask if I needed transport. I approached Fiat head Office in South Africa and they gave me a courtesy car. God only knows when I will get my car back from Fiat; this is a car that I am still paying instalments on. This company sells c**p and the first thing I am going to do when I get it back is sell it and buy a more reliable brand like Toyota.
Submitted: 10/08/2009 08:41:41 | ID: 3383
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I bought my Fiat van 4 years ago, it had 5,000 miles on the clock; it now has 121,000. A brilliant van that I can personally recommend. I have had the cambelt done at 75,000 and an exhaust at 100,000, that’s all. I have had van serviced every 12,000 miles which is probably why it has been so good to me... O am still running my van but am considering a Fiorino in the next few months.
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Update: I still have this van, it never goes wrong! It now has 182,000 on clock. I am looking about for another, I think it will be another Doblo now. Fantastic vans! - Anthony Stacey from Yorkshire
Submitted: 05/08/2009 09:13:43 | ID: 3372
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Good little van with no problems! But you have to get it chipped to make it go. I now get good acceleration, 57mpg more torque etc etc. Carries my disco gear so not exactly light. But actually drives better loaded. Unloaded flies like the wind. GET IT CHIPPED IF YOU HAVE A DOBLO.
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Where have you bought your chip from? - Daniel Gildenhuys from Buckinghamshire
Have just got wife 2004 cargo great van. Where can I get it chipped and how much does it cost? - Steve Mansell from Somerset
Submitted: 04/08/2009 11:25:27 | ID: 3340
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So far so good. I have owned the Croma for 6 months now, I picked it due to it’s size / value for money / rarity. I have had a couple of problems, the boot door switch has stopped working and the RH indicator occassionally will not stay on plus there is a rattle from the front offside suspension - I haven’t investigated this yet. Overall I love the car, I get an average of 47 MPG with mixed motorway / urban driving, very comfortable and relaxed 6th gear cruising on the motorway, which is great for long journeys, the dealers ARE useless (nothing new there?), but what a pity this car is not still sold in the UK. I think people here do not realise that Fiat’s are great cars.
Submitted: 03/08/2009 10:07:49 | ID: 3322
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Would have had much better rating until last August, three weeks after warranty ran out. That’s when the water pump went damaging the cam belt. Both had to be replaced - which I was told was very unusual for age and mileage of car (I do about 16K per annum). So far this year I have replaced tyres due to faulty tracking and they’re still wearing unevenly, had to have rear door lock seen to (for second time) and one of sliding door catches... had to replace cat on exhaust (quoted literally twice as much for part by dealer than Kwik Fit), rear wiper motor sticking and advised I should replace (front one went after only two years though it wasn’t the motor that was at fault but a mechanical part, but you can’t get just that)... and now ,apparently, two weeks after full service (minus 70K cam belt replacement see above) and one day after passing MOT the EGR valve needs replacing or car won’t start from cold. AARGH. All this is approaching £1000 spent in just over a month. Other than that the car has done just what I want and is a lot of space for the initial price - but spares, blimey don’t they make up for it then... Very reliable for first 50K miles thereafter it’s been a bit of a nightmare. I would replace it, but maybe it’s one of those that needs replacing before the warranty runs out despite what you lose in near instant depreciation...
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Hello, I had the EGR thing scare, changed to a new more powerful battery and now it’s gone. Still, the dealers should know this detail - Gildas Dubois from France
Submitted: 16/07/2009 09:32:57 | ID: 3248
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I purchased my Scudo 3 years ago now. I am on my third instrument cluster and the speedo has packed in. Fiat vans are a total waste of time - keep well clear!
Submitted: 14/07/2009 08:27:28 | ID: 3227
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Motorhome with reverse vibration over last two years. Just had work done with Fiat dealership, still have same problem. Fiat can not do any other repairs, they suggest replacing gearbox at my cost. Customer care is c**p. I will never buy any other car or van from Fiat.
Submitted: 13/07/2009 10:19:08 | ID: 3221
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2nd punto after my original 1.2 8v....loved that and this made a tidy little upgrade, looks the part, drives a dream and is a fantastic run around for both town and long distance driving!
Submitted: 09/07/2009 09:20:34 | ID: 3212
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I have a problem with my 1996 Ducato. The engine cuts out when the indicator is switched on or the headlamps are flashed. It is a very intermitent fault. Has this happened to anyone else?
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I’ve had an intermittent fault, which caused the same problem,after investigation I found the ignition feed multiplug under the dash was not correctly pushed together. The problem had only occured 6 or 7 times in 3 or 4 years, but has been fine since - Dave from Derbyshire
Submitted: 08/07/2009 09:49:18 | ID: 3206
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Oh dear, where do I start! From the moment of picking up my van I had trouble but I put the vast majority of the problems down to the dealer. Total incompetence. I know that anyone can buy a jinxed van but when the van is returned to the dealer five times and they still don’t cure ANY of the faults, then you really are stuck. I even tried rejecting the van which was my right- the law, unfortunately is an ass because I would have had to return the van then buy/hire another whilst fighting for my money back. I decided against it. You know what they say FIAT stands for: Fix It Again Tomorrow - but, in my experience, that isn’t true because they don’t fix it. I would advise anyone thinking of buying one not to.
Submitted: 01/07/2009 08:06:07 | ID: 3181
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We purchased a brand new Fiat Ducato Motorhome and broke down on our first outing with the loss of most of the engine coolant due to a faulty inboard heating unit. On the second outing we had to terminate our holiday early as the inboard battery became flat due to a faulty charger and an audio signal loudly emitted a bleeping signal which we thought would be audible outside the van as it was late at night. We have also experienced judder in reverse which we are about to register with Fiat. We are losing faith in this vehicle as we have experienced many teething problems.
Submitted: 19/06/2009 09:07:43 | ID: 3117
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I’ve owned my MutliWagon for almost a year now and in that time it has covered about 13,000 miles. As with almost all Fiats I have owned my car has it own electronic idiosyncrasies. The engine warning light has been flashing on and off randomly for the last 6 months. This is sometimes accompanied by the car going into limp mode for 5 minutes or so but otherwise causes no issues. My local Fiat dealer told to ignore it because ’they all do that....’ The car is rather average handling wise but as most of my mileage is done on the motorway this isn’t too problematic for me. Fuel economy around town isn’t great 32-35ish MPG but on a decent motorway run I’ve seen as much as 48 MPG which I feel is good for a car of this size. Do not under estimate the performance of these cars. Even in standard trim my estate is as quick as a colleagues MK3 Golf GTi. If funds allow I intend getting a remap - more power and fuel economy..... These cars are now available for almost no money. My advice, find one with good service history, buy it and run it into the ground. You won’t get more car for your money......
Submitted: 19/06/2009 09:05:43 | ID: 3116
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Good van to drive but like a lot of others has EGR valve problems & it is a nightmare getting Fiat to fix it. Has any one else noticed the spot welds cracking & breaking free on the lower rear door hinge stiffening plates? Open the doors & look- my right hand one has bust & fiat just don’t want to know. My mates Maxi is starting to get the same on 08 plate (mines 07). Be interested to hear of any more.
Submitted: 15/06/2009 12:03:09 | ID: 3100
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EGR valve needs replacement at 40,000 miles; dangerous loss of power.
Submitted: 11/06/2009 14:39:11 | ID: 3090
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Nice car, design-wise it is 5 years ahead. JTD 80 is probably way worse option that JTD 115. Although mpg is fine and it is good around the city as it has got shorter gear ratio. If you are often on the motorway than you should look for JTD 115 or better. Mine has got 116K on the clock and was fairly reliable. Car suspension and handling is a bit of a disappointment for me. It holds the grip eventually but doesn’t feel safe on hard brakes or corners. Older Fiat Brava did a much better job. It is a sound car mechanically; it would get 5 stars from me, but when it comes to electronics again, doesn’t feel as solid as some competitors, I would give it 4 stars. Flashing warning lights on dash just for fun could be annoying. The interior is dominated by a beautifully designed dashboard with good materials and ergonomics, the rest of interior feels like from another much cheaper car. Almost everything is squeaking and rattling sometimes more sometimes less, but always.
Submitted: 08/06/2009 09:55:47 | ID: 3067
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Yes, we found that too - drove to Portugal with a full load, motorway all the way, no problem - came down the steep hill to our destination and the brakes were nearly red hot, had to drive round on the flat road for a while to cool them down. Mad design.
Submitted: 08/06/2009 09:40:17 | ID: 3064
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I bought from new 20 months ago. I am now on my 3rd clutch, the air con is broken and am now awaiting parts. I’ve had a new radiator, the headlights flash on their own and Fiat do not know what is wrong. It took 3 months for them to get the bluetooth working. I can’t fault the drive of this van but it’s not that quiet. Don’t buy.
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The light problem is the light switch [stalk]. I had same probs, put new stalk on and it now works fine - Chippys Taxis? from Yorkshire
Submitted: 04/06/2009 08:49:11 | ID: 3051
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I have had a 06 new shape Ducato from new. And have had nothing but bother with it as already mentioned; glove box is flimsy and was broken within a week, all the plastics on the van are prone to damage. Water pump went after less than 30,000 miles the sliding door has never worked or locked without pushing it with your shoulder despite being looked at three times. Now after only 40,000 miles the clutch slave cylinder has gone and it is inside the gearbox will cost me over £1,000 as Fiat say it isn’t covered by the final year drive only warranty. The van drives well apart from when in reverse and it judders like hell. My advice is do not buy a Fiat. Nearly forgot the spare tyre holder had to be cut to get the tyre out as it did not work - only six months old.
Submitted: 04/06/2009 08:44:33 | ID: 3049
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Bought the Fiat Doblo 1.9 Multijet Dynamic. After four days it had to go back, brakes were not working properly - it rolled down drive into busy road. Another two weeks due to knocking on steering, the excuse was fitted with wrong wheel bearings, the cup at the top of the macfursons strut full of rust, their excuse was it was road dirt. the car had done 200 miles. The rubbers round the rear windows were porous on the inside and full of sand and last week we were climbing up a hill and the accelerator pedal stuck. DISGUSTED! WENT BACK AFTER 1 MONTH - LET FIAT HAVE THE TROUBLE.
Submitted: 02/06/2009 08:49:44 | ID: 3034
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I am reasonably happy with my Ducato, it is after all ten years old. I was surprised to find that it is not wax injected on production. I wish to comment on Rich Davenport’s problem ie. the discharging vehicle battery. I had a similar fault which turned out to be the split charge unit. One of the relay contacts had stuck leaving the lesure battery permanently connected across the vehicle battery. This had resulted in the lesure batteries fuse blowing when I started the van and the vehicle battery being connected to the habitation 12 volt system whilst the lesure battery was disconnected by the blown fuse. Hence the vehicle battery was feeding the various devices that I leave on when I park up the van and loosing it’s charge. Hope this helps, Ian Barker.
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Can you help me? I have just bought a Fiat Ducato Euromobil Motorhome 1998 but I do not have a users manual.Can you tell me where to get one from? - James Pitkeathly from Lanarkshire
Submitted: 01/06/2009 09:37:33 | ID: 3029
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Does anyone on here have battery problems? I bought my new CI Mizar Elite motor home on a Ducato base last October and within a couple of days the battery needed a jump start. We took it beck to the dealer who in fairness fitted a new battery without any quibble but since then, I’ve started the Ducato no less than 5 times since using jump leads because there was insufficient power in the battery to even turn the engine over. Of course, when you talk to Fiat they just shrug their shoulders and tell you that it must be driven regularly in order to maintain the battery. But for anyone else with the same problem, I suggest (and it probably won’t make a lot of difference anyway) that you have a look at the ’arrangement’ Fiat use on the negative side of the underfloor battery. I think I’m right in assuming that battery terminals should be "Tight" but the connection that Fiat use on their latest Ducato does seem to leave a lot to be desired as there is no way that it can be tightened sufficiently unless like me you release the connection and try to get it farther down the negative pillar, thus making a tighter connection. Although the connection on my battery is a ’tad’ tighter than before, the battery still loses all its power over the course of a week or so, and then I have to resort to jump leads again.
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I had the same problem. It was the radio draining the battery although it was switched off; there are two wires going to the radio that have to be changed over, i.e. red to blue, blue to red then you can have the radio on without having to turn on the ignition but it switches it’s self off after 20 minutes. Better than a flat battery every 14 days. Barrons that was, fixed mine - Cliff from Durham
Submitted: 29/05/2009 10:17:17 | ID: 3023
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Bought this car as an ex demo model - only done 5500 miles and handles really well round town with city mode on power steering. On the motorway it is smooth very quiet and the engine sounds like a dream!! Lovely car, highly recommended!
Submitted: 27/05/2009 10:52:18 | ID: 3007
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Best little mini on the market; our first brand new car for us retired folk - always had used cars but now everybody admires our four wheels, especialy with the red green & white strips down the sides plus extra chrome. Wonderful! Thanks DRC!
Submitted: 27/05/2009 10:47:55 | ID: 3005
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I bought this car 3 months ago when my Vauxhall Astra 1.6 was written off by vandals. I bought a 1.4 Stilo and loved it instantly. The engine was so quiet, good and comfortable to drive. Fuel consumption was great and the sound system is superb. Sadly my Stilo was written off in a crash (not my fault) but I am looking for another one. The car protected the 3 passengers also, well impressed, even after it rolled over the passengers and driver walked out with 2 small cuts between them. I have had, a Carlton, Calibra, Astra, Escort, Peugeot 406, and I loved the Stilo best. Recommended++++++++++.
Submitted: 18/05/2009 08:34:56 | ID: 2965
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We run a Scudo minibus. It’s had a new clutch, 3 sets of tyres, new pads, 3 EGR valves, 4 or 5 head light bulbs, front ball joint. To change a head light bulb is near impossible - drivers side has to be done at dealership. We also run 3 12-seater Transits and these seem superior to the Scudo for reliability. We would never buy Fiat again, the EGR problems just leaves the Scudo in limp mode.
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I completely agree about the light bulbs! I have a Scudo taxi and not only do the bulbs fail more often than would seem normal but even with my small hands they are impossible to replace!!! The only way is to take the vehicle to the garage and leave it with them to sort out! - Robert Nelson from Lancashire
Submitted: 18/05/2009 08:31:34 | ID: 2963
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We run 6 vans in all and our two Fiat’s are the only vans that we have had no problems with in 3 years. The rest are Ford’s and they are never out of the dealers.
Submitted: 13/05/2009 11:14:54 | ID: 2943
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I’m on my third Multipla and into my 8th year of owning them, I just love ’em. Before getting picky about reliability (pretty damn good, actually) and quality of plastics, we have to be clear that we’re talking about a cheap car: £13,500 otr. Nothing else can touch it for that money and the resale values aren’t bad. 40mpg commuting is normal, the same cruising at 70 unladen. It is fun to drive, easy to live with and above all, immensely comfortable. The Germans give you a thinly covered wooden bench, the French pad their seats with hot marshmallow, hence the swift onset of back pain. All six seats in the Multipla are hugely comfortable for 6’, 16st me and there is room for children to grow into lanky teenagers without complaint - they save that for everything else in life you can think of. We load up with food, ipods and three children and head out across Europe without hesitation. One thing about safety, all seats are between the axles so you don’t have to have any children sitting in the crumple zone aft of the rear axle. As with most turbodiesels the acceleration whilst moving is splendid and perfectly adequate for normal driving. Dump your prejudices and just try one, you’ll be amazed. And comfortable.
Submitted: 12/05/2009 14:56:20 | ID: 2932
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I have run my Doblo JTD since 2002 & it has covered 100,000 miles & never let me down. It was given a new battery & exhaust this year but has cost me nothing else other than servicing. In the meantime I have a run a Skoda Fabia vRS, Porsche Boxster & Renaultsport Clio 172, all of which have let me down in different ways at different times. The inside is huge, performance is adequate, fuel consumption excellent & it looks like it will run for many miles yet. I have even taken it for 5 laps of the Nurburgring. I love it.
Submitted: 12/05/2009 14:51:46 | ID: 2930
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Purchased new in Germany in January 2006; face lifted mark 2, LHD 4,500 kilo ALKO chassis, tag axle Hobby 725 motorhome with 146 bhp engine [uprated engine only available in lhd]. Drives superbly, pulls like a train, will cruise all day at 80mph, plenty of poke for overtaking. Fuel consumption 21 - 27 mpg. Mileage 35,000 kms (date now; 06/05/09); nothing has gone wrong/fallen off, nothing has been replaced (which is more than can be said for the motorhome conversion). Came with cruise control, twin airbags, cab air con, elec. mirrors, CD player. Good van, well pleased.
Submitted: 07/05/2009 08:51:53 | ID: 2907
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I have had 3 Grande Punto’s now as I upgraded in power each time; first with the 1.2 then the 1.4 8v and now I’ve got the 1.4 turbo. The first two were good cars but not with much power but the t-jet is a different class; it has a 0-60 time of less than most 2-litres and big cars and it is really comfy with the sports interior. I have had 135 mph out of it on the motorway and I highly recommend this car - you will not be disappointed. The only problem I have found with it is the standard of its cornering but as soon as I lowered it 20mm that problem disappeared. Now I have a straight through exhaust system, an induction kit, a turbo upgrade from mij performance, a dump valve and a remap and now it’s a beast with 233bhp and a 0-60 time of 5.7 and a top speed of 150. Trust me, this car has great power for the engine standard but now it’s uncontrollable and it only cost me an extra 3 grand to get it up to this standard. I take it to track days and pass ST’s and VXR’s... the lot - it even keeps up with Impreza’s. Don’t listen to these people with bad results there either dumb and break their cars or just cant drive. Like the one with the gearbox trouble LEARN TO USE THE CLUTCH IDIOT. And if you do buy a petrol definitely buy the t-jet.
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THE GEARBOXES (5 SP) ARE C**P ON THE GRANDE PUNTOS, THEY ARE MADE OUT OF CHOCOLATE! Trust me you are lucky I know how to use a clutch having owned an Alfa 147 gta, BMW M3 and a lot of other cars. These Grande Puntos are Fiat’s worst, even the c**p they made in the early nineties were more reliable... Don’t buy a Grande Punto save your money and buy Japanese, and I own a 1.4 t jet its s**t!!! - Robert Samuels from England
Submitted: 06/05/2009 11:49:31 | ID: 2899
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I have the 07 Ducato 130bhp. It is a very good van, pulls very well and the only problems are when reversing - you have to use the clutch all the time as it judders. I think the gear is to high.
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You need to contact Fiat. Your van will need new improved engine mounting and reverse gear. This should be done under warranty by main dealer or approved Fiat garage - Ted from England
Submitted: 28/04/2009 10:47:14 | ID: 2868
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I bought my Sedici used one year old. I love the looks and the fact it offers something different to endless Golfs, Vauxhall’s and Fords out there. To be honest, it does not have the chunky quality build as "proper" Fiats. Some of the other reviews are unfair to Fiat as the car is built by Suzuki at a Suzuki factory, so there is no point saying you wont consider another Fiat product because of problems with the Sedici build. I will keep mine for a while yet and get the most out of it. Somehow the noisy 1.6 engine seems to be getting better the more run in it is. I have also had no problems with the gear change.
Submitted: 27/04/2009 08:53:51 | ID: 2860
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It is my first car and it is the perfect car to start with. The only thing is the wiper speed but I am getting used to it.
Submitted: 24/04/2009 08:28:16 | ID: 2846
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I had bought a Fiat van in march 2007 as a Trigano Tribute camper. I have had no problems with the van as it is now known for practicality. After common problems with clutch Fiat had started to resolve these issues in 2006. I now have no fear whilst touring Europe. An excellent van and motorhome to buy. Well done Fiat, nice one.
Submitted: 21/04/2009 11:30:35 | ID: 2835
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I bought my Punto after driving around in a mobility car for months and thought it time I got my own new car. At first I fell for the sleek body on the car and the interior was really nice too. I thought small car small engine will mean cheap to run. Well, aye, it was for insurance & fuel but after 2 months the rear seatbelt mount felt apart, so I took it back to Arnold Clark and tried to explain what was up but they said I must have broke it. Very doubtful, because I was mostly in the car alone going to and from work but they said they’d fix it under warranty. The tyres are hefty expensive too at £45 each. I had replaced all 4 tyres within 8 months of getting the car. Now I have had the car for just over 18 months and it needs new brake pads and discs according to Arnold Clark, aye, I think I might need new pads but I heard brake discs normally last years not months. My really cheap car now sits on my driveway until I can be bothered to get it fixed, its not all about the money, if I fix it this time then next week it will be something completely different. The Fiat Grande Punto is a load of s***!!!!!
Submitted: 15/04/2009 09:02:08 | ID: 2809
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Had my van for 1 year - no problems, starts first time. There was a problem with the fan switch and found a brake pad stuck on so mpg not so good until that was fixed. Other than that no complaints, a good cheap van.
Submitted: 14/04/2009 10:53:23 | ID: 2787
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I brought this car 3 months ago A great price at £5000 with only 7800 miles on the clock. I’m very happy, I use it every day to go to work its very comfortable for the 60miles round trip. A great looking car. The only problem is the road noise it is a little louder than other cars i have driven. But it is spacious fun cheap to insure and run. The garage I got it from has excellent customer care (research garage Nuneaton) and they did drop the price of this car by nearly £1000. Definitely worth doing a bit of market research seeing what you can get for your money and play them of against each other! Would I buy another? Without a doubt YES!
Submitted: 02/04/2009 08:52:58 | ID: 2739
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Picked up my used 2007 Croma (Ex Fiat Staff Car) for a huge discount off normal retail. Very happy with the car. I had a 120 bhp Alfa 159 when they came out and strangely I think the build and drive of the Croma are better suited to our roads. The drive is great, no fatigue after long runs due to great seats, acceptable levels of road noise and a good stereo. The 120 bhp is plenty of power I find I have to keep my eye on the clock on main roads, fuel ranges from 39mpg to about 47mpg on motorway driving which is very good for a car this size. I live in the Republic of Ireland and it seems the service here is a bit better than in the UK thankfully. But so far so good very happy with the car and no hesitation in recommending one to anyone thinking about picking one up second-hand!
Submitted: 01/04/2009 09:09:12 | ID: 2734
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Bought car new, done 33,400 miles, driven hard for a lot of that time, never had problem. I just change the cam cover gasket at every service. Have 30mm lowering springs (fitted after about 3 months) and wider tyres (fitted last year) on it. Handles great, a lot of fun on B-roads. Great car, did 46MPG with 4 adults and 4 days camping stuff crammed in to Orkney and back. On its second set of brake pads (only another 3000miles left on them though) but disks are still perfect.
Submitted: 25/03/2009 08:50:32 | ID: 2697
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Re: FIAT Ducato problems: Gerard Moyne, Northern Ireland Fiat Ducato 2008: I need people to contact me re: the difficulty with Fiat Ducato Motorhomes Vans! My 2008 4.5 tonne motorhome is shuddering in reverse gear and the clutch is burning when trying to reverse due to a problem known by Fiat to exist. I am looking at taking a class action re: this problem and need anyone who has a problem to contact me. moyne@gpsi.ie Reply: I bought a new French Hymer 574 - 2006 model, put on the road Jan. 2007 - nothing but problems! Investigation shows that our chassis left Italy for Hymer Germany autumn 2005, so it hung around until we bought the vehicle end of 2006. As to the Fiat Ducato chassis. I have the Iveco 2.8 engine - fine. Chassis: front wheel bearings failed, replaced in Paris free of charge last September, but took 3 days as the part numbers with ABS & without ABS are the same, but some bits that were required are different - the told me. Failure of Ducato front wheel bearings is a well know weakness. Reversing on a slope: bad clutch judder as the ratio is too high - a well know problem which I have and Fiat don’t want to know about. Fiat France tell me there is a ’short gearbox’ with a lower gear ratio that can be fitted at customer’s expense. HYMER should have not built a 3.5 vehicle on this chassis. Speedo was for the usual 16 inch wheels, but Hymer used a series of special chassis with 15 inch wheels (cheaper for them). Took a year for the complete speedo assembly to be replaced under guarantee by approved Fiat (Iveco) dealer here in France Hand break failed several times causing two accidents. Re-tensioning by Fiat dealers failed to overcome the problem. Explanation: this is caused when the rear break assembly is hot. When the hand brake is first fully applied to maximum, it works. BUT, as the mechanism cools, the breaks soon began contract, slowly relaxing the grip thus allowing the vehicle to move if on a slope. No remedy for this, block in first gear, I am told. As to the Hymer problems, too long to explain here, but we have had to resort to legal assistance to try to have outstanding faults repaired and still await parts to arrive from Germany. And as a journalist, in direct contact with the director of Hymer France, who I meet each year at the big exhibition in Le Bourget - Paris, I still can’t get anywhere! Basic problem is the motorhome constructors have had such a demand in recent years for their products, they just don’t care when their dealer has our money. Also, the Ducato van chassis is not designed to be permanently loaded to 3.5 ton, I am told. And under your UK regulations there is the C1 category of 3.5 ton un-laden, up to 7.5 ton maximum weight (which does not exist in France, but in Germany they drive 3.8 ton on a car licence). Many motorhomes are too heavy for the commercial van chassis they are frequently built on.
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We have just bought a Fiat motorhome and it’s the biggest load of cr*p, it’s never been right from the day I put the key in it. An abundance of gear box problems: 1st and 2nd gear, then 5th and 6th went; the clutch stinks, and reverse gear is far too high for the vehicle. What a nightmare! It’s been in the garage for well over a month and Fiat customer service is appalling; a word that sums up Fiat in a nutshell. I’ve no confidence in the vehicle, just a mountain of stress - Mike Palmer from Cardiff
I bought 4.5 tonne Burstner motorhome Dec 08, which was pre-owned. First reg July 2007. I have had problems with reverse judder then had to replace the clutch after 15,000 miles, the gearbox has now let go giving no drive. There is 16,000 miles on the engine, the Fiat agent can’t tell me whether there is warranty on this vehicle as it is a motorhome. I have been driving for 36 years and haven’t ever replaced a clutch nor gearbox in any other vehicle, on top of these problems I have had several breakdowns due to corrosion of earthstraps etc. This is not good enough for 70,000 pound vans. I will never have another Fiat but who will buy this one? - Kerry McLernon from County Down
The paint on my van is badly flaking on the bonnet and roof - Billy from England
Submitted: 23/03/2009 09:53:14 | ID: 2682
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I bought this car new in January of 2008. It has covered 15,500 miles since and has been an excellent buy. I have had no issues with the vehicle. We have since had our first child and are surprised at how easily it copes with the baby seat and a pram in the boot. The performance is excellent from the little diesel, and will cruise happily on the motorway with plenty left in reserve. Economy is good too, it is easy to get 65mpg through a tank. My best is 74 although this was on A roads and did require a concerted effort. I enjoy having the air conditioning, useful for de misting on damp days as well as keeping the summer heat at bay. Build quality is good too, so nothing not to like.
Submitted: 16/03/2009 09:31:00 | ID: 2649
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I had van new in 08 - worst van ever - pulls to left, seats worn out, paints patchy... oh, the best bit is it does 22 mpg. Fiat vans are a joke, fly wheel went - clunking noise at front. It had only done 10000, god knows what it will be like at 50000. DON’T BUY ONE! They’re scrap.
Submitted: 11/03/2009 09:18:52 | ID: 2622
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I have owned one now for a year have covered 20000 miles. I had a lot of problems with the new Scudo - I drive wheelchairs about for a living so there is no speed involved. I’m now on my third set of brake pads in the front, 2nd in the back. The steering rack has to be replaced plus I’ve had fuel problems. If I could get out of the van not owing a lot I would but the resalable value on these vans is very poor.
Submitted: 11/03/2009 09:04:48 | ID: 2617
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Further to my last post in February, I have been driving this van now for two weeks. I really like it!! I wear a pair of narrow shoes now and the brake/accelerator problem is not really an issue now, although Fiat should do something about this. The three things I most like about the van are the excellent brakes, the turning circle and the very nice high driving position. I also like the responsiveness of the engine.
Submitted: 06/03/2009 10:21:41 | ID: 2604
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I bought the new Punto in June 2008 and I have to say it is a vast improvement on its previous models. Arnold Clark did a wonderful deal on the list price saving me a few grand plus trading my old Punto in - saved a few bucks too. The overall look of the car is quite stunning, nice curves great looking body kit, 17 inch alloys with low profile tyres and a fake but nice looking chrome tail pipe on the sporting model. You can also get a fully retractable sunroof on selected models and I do like the voice controls for your phone and iPod. The interior is very well made too. Sporty seat upholstery, racing seats, racing steering wheel etc. Down sides are not the greatest car at cornering but when your on the motor way this car can really shift even though I only have the 1.4 petrol engine in it. But stick an induction kit and a sports exhaust system on it and your laughing. Also I was rather disappointed that there is no spare wheel in the boot but instead they have given you a tyre filler pump gadget thingy. To be honest I have used these things in the past and I have to say they 9 times out of ten it doesn’t do what it says on the tin . They are MOT approved but I’d feel much safer having a spare wheel for the inevitable blow out instead of a tyre seal kit. I’m not sure how much they cost to replace once you’ve used them so look into it but imagine its cheaper that buying a new spare wheel but I’d still prefer to have one none the less. On the whole this is a great wee sports car but do go for the sporting model as supposed to the bog standard version, a lot more fun and you get a lot of kit for your money. But bare in mind, tyres ain’t cheap for this puppy so don’t go burning them out too quickly.
Submitted: 02/03/2009 09:54:47 | ID: 2590
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Just started a new job today and driving this van, and yes Julian, there IS a problem with the accelerator and brake pedals being too close together. Maybe I just have large feet (size 11) - I’ll have to dig out a pair of narrow shoes! But on the whole the van is good.
Submitted: 24/02/2009 09:36:14 | ID: 2554
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Have enjoyed 3 years trouble free running with this car. Tyres lasted 20K miles - driven without extra care. Averages 36mpg . No complaints; given good purchase deal and extremely comfortable relaxing progress. Unique style always impresses and stands out from the loads of common shapes on the road- sad to see poor UK support. My family are Spanish and in Spain this car is much better accepted with good reviews and dealer care.
Submitted: 24/02/2009 09:32:09 | ID: 2553
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Wicked car to own... the Stilo is a brilliant car which comes with great features and nicely refined engines. Excellent safety features and comfort too... I’m very happy with my car!
Submitted: 16/02/2009 09:29:38 | ID: 2521
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Had the car in Italy for the past year (24,000 kilometres).100% perfect car, still as new. If there were 6 stars, this car would get them. Returning to Italy in march, will be buying the Abarth SS.
Submitted: 11/02/2009 09:02:15 | ID: 2508
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I purchased a van on 22/09/07 from a local Fiat dealer. Faulty back light replaced 3 times. Fuel pump failed off road for 2 weeks. Back doors wouldn’t stay open. It is now been off the road for another week + waiting for passenger door mirror after someone knocked it off. I am not happy. I am changing van this week as the local dealer is useless. I hope I get better service with the new LDV. Was thinking of buying a new Fiat Panda for my wife but going to by Daihatsu now. I would like to warn other people not to buy a Fiat van or anything to do with Fiat. Lovely van let down by local dealers and Fiat’s attitude. The van is badged as professional but it doesn’t do what is says, it’s second rate. If you would like to phone me on this matter my number is 07968134260.
Submitted: 09/02/2009 09:22:50 | ID: 2491
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Clutch went twice... gear box went... faulty shocks...
Submitted: 09/02/2009 09:09:26 | ID: 2485
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I have owned this car for 14 months, bought it new, I think it's a nice car, let down by niggles. All under warranty, I have had problems with, petrol cap lock, electric windows and heater. Shame because other than these flimsy items, it's a nice, enjoyable and likeable car. Cheap to buy and insure, good on petrol. It wouldn't stop me buying another Fiat, possibly because the competition is so dull. There really is nothing out there that interests me in this category. I am not yet a zombie, so ineligible for Vauxhall ownership.
Submitted: 04/02/2009 10:56:58 | ID: 2472
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I’ve had this van for 13months (58k) now and it’s been nothing but problems. I’ve lost count at how many time it been to dealer; so far it has had new gearbox, clutch, turbo relay, turbo engine management system, reversing lights relay and countless other tweaking. It’s now a week after the turbo intercooler pipe came off and was replaced it has broken down again this time with yet more gearbox problems. I came to a roundabout today and put the clutch in and that was it - back to the dealer on the back of a low loader. That means that in 13 months it will have been off the road for about 4 months. Oooh the joys of buying a Fiat...
Submitted: 28/01/2009 10:28:00 | ID: 2438
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Collected my Fiorino van in Aug ’08, 4 miles on the clock. Drive mainly motorway miles and have done 11,500 miles. Poor dealer service as they are unable to source the oil as quoted in the handbook for any top ups stating that they would just put the oil that is in the drum in the workshop. Rear door hinges are showing some corrosion, been back to the dealer but have not heard from them in a week. Mileage flashes sometimes on the dash and the gearbox is now so notchy it will not go into gear, due back at the dealer on 26/01/09 for a test drive. Shame as van is good with 58mpg etc but the biggest issue I have is the reluctance of the dealers to offer any customer service.
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What is the purpose in stating fuel consumption obtained without stating engine type/size/fuel? Sounds more like a whinge than useful opinion... - Dogbert from Hampshire
Submitted: 27/01/2009 09:09:10 | ID: 2434
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A great little car, fun to drive, cheap to run. No "locking diff" (I think?), no low range gear box (?), no bull (bars). Trundles across fields and up muddy slopes with apparent ease. Loves snow. Has been known to leave "Landie" drivers scratching their heads! If you need a "proper" 4x4 and also a very practical small car that can take friends to the pub and back, give this little Fiat serious consideration. Don’t be put off by the doubters - the internet has plenty of footage showing just where a Panda can roam! The only bad point is a "space saving"spare wheel - not much help when you have a puncture motorway. The tyres are "highway/ terrain" pattern, which some lazy fitters say can’t be got hold of - rubbish! They just take a few days to order but are needed to go off road. Finally make sure your insurance allows you to go in the mud - some don’t! This is the best little car I’ve ever owned!
Submitted: 20/01/2009 16:33:16 | ID: 2406
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Fiat Punto Active 1.2 Stripe - Bought my car in Feb 08 brand new - had no problems - very smart little car - more space than you would think - boot’s a bit small - road tax is cheap and fuel consumption is even better - an all round good car.
Submitted: 07/01/2009 11:04:03 | ID: 2344
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A customer of mine has just taken his Ducato into the dealers with a broken clutch; he bought the van 3 months ago second hand. Took gearbox out & dealers told him the clutch has exploded due to driver error & that it is the second clutch its had in 57000miles & there is no warranty on it so £800+ thank you very much! I personally saw the old clutch & the springs had tried shaking themselves free... this causes the judder which many are complaining about & eventually will explode. How can this be driver error when so many people are complaining of it? Are all the complaints from bad drivers? Come on Fiat... get a grip!!!!!!
Submitted: 31/12/2008 09:59:03 | ID: 2329
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The Fiorino Combi is a very versatile family vehicle. It is reasonably well appointed, easy to drive with a good 1.3 multijet diesel engine. Handling is great and the car/van feels comfortable in all conditions. Negative points are that my vehicle is rated as a light goods vehicle and gets a massive £180 tax charge, whereas I expected to pay £35 for a vehicle with low emissions. Fiat are not too sympathetic. The other major negative is that fuel consumption is way down on the stated figure after 2100 miles I get an average of 46mpg and on a long run, no better than 49mpg. The car has been back to the dealer but they can find no problems.
Submitted: 30/12/2008 08:37:09 | ID: 2317
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I must say that I’ve been traumatised for want of a better word since I purchased this car. Wish I’d kept my Daewoo which I had from new for last 10yrs. On the same day I collected the car it ended up in a garage because messages were flashing up on the screen saying ASR failure, alernator failure, loose connection with a spanner icon. Garage had it for 4 days and said that they couldn’t find any faults with it and that it was running ok. Collected the car it drove ok from the garage was beginning to enjoy it then whilst driving, car cuts out again and same messages flashing up again! Will need to take it back to the garage to see if they can resolve the problem. Failing that i’ll need to trade it in for a different model. Not impressed with Fiat and would never have another one. Could someone please tell me what the problem is as it is really worrying me.
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I had the same problem of ASR failure, it is hard to spot and belive it or not it was caused by the brake light switch sticking, which is located under your dash on the driver’s side. The good news is it took 5 mins to fix at the garage (when they got the part in) but the price is a bit of a worry I must admit, it cost,including the part and labour, £9.00 yes thats right Nine Pounds! I had this done in september 09. I hope this solves your problem - Chris Hurved from Northamptonshire
Submitted: 29/12/2008 09:56:58 | ID: 2305
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Customer of mine just taken his Ducato into dealers with a broken clutch - he bought the van 3 months ago second hand. Took gearbox out & dealers told him the clutch has exploded due to driver error & that it is the second clutch it’s had in 57000miles & there is no warranty on it so £800+ thank you very much! I personally saw the old clutch & the springs had tried shaking themselves free... this causes the judder which many are complaining about & eventually will explode. How can this be driver error when so many people are complaining of it? Are all the complaints from bad drivers? Come on Fiat... Get a grip!!!!!!
Submitted: 19/12/2008 10:46:51 | ID: 2284
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As a driving instructor I cover a fair few miles, well over 30000 now and this car has been pretty reliable - I’ve had a couple of minor faults rectified but nothing drastic, and for the price you can’t really argue! And the dealer has been really helpful. This one has a lovely engine, with bags of torque making it fun to drive, yet still returns 40+ mpg. Lots of kit, and comfy seats make it a pleasant place to spend time - the bluetooth car kit works well and is simple to use, the usb music player is brilliant and sounds great. It’s a great looking car and my pupils seem to love driving it - what more do you want?
Submitted: 19/12/2008 10:43:52 | ID: 2283
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Car of the year in 1995, the Fiat Punto lives up to its recognition even now. With the 1.1 fuel injected engine ticking over with all the tightness of a car half its age. The car being Italian it is obviously not well built and were I to crash it I would be almost definitely dead within a second but you still can’t look past the sheer vitality and energetic nature of this all time great. As well as good looks the car has monumental speed still at its old age, with the engine managing 110mph even now. This car will one day be a classic and I know now that I love it to bits.
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You will probably find most of them die from chronic electrical failure before they can become classic. The common fault being the airbag warning light comes on the power steering fails (costs £900 to repair) and water pump fails. These are just a few common faults, there are too many to list - Malcolm Smith from England
Submitted: 15/12/2008 11:03:30 | ID: 2272
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What a fantastic car. It looks fantastic - I have the bossa nova white with the Italian stripe down the sides. It certainly turns heads. It is great to drive, handles really well and is very economical. Fiat have certainly set the standard for future compact city cars. I see they have just launched a cabriolet version - might have to get another one!!
Submitted: 12/12/2008 16:54:34 | ID: 2251
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Hi everyone! Everything you read on the Fiat 2.3 multi jet is absolutely TRUE. I have owned every model of the Fiat since its first early model. Their latest model has not been tested fully. Otherwise why would these very basic problems exist. For example - water ingress and, very important, reverse vibration shaking the gearbox to pieces. If anyone says this vibration does not exist they are either doing what an ostrich does or they are a Motorhome salesman. If this vibration happened on one of their Ferrari’s then the problem would be cured in the pits, not in 2years. They know what this problem is but they are playing the numbers game. When they say their technical team are working on this problem, this is an insult to those very clever guys who built this otherwise good machine. I ask just how long have they been building commercials. Finally, if you have this van then you must get a case number for future reference.
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I have taken delivery of a new Fiat Ducato this April, and along with many other problems I am experiencing reverse judder on anything greater than a slight gradient. Can anyone advise me of where I obtain a case number for this problem and from whom? - William Harrison from England
Hi. I thought it only right to come back and report the final outcome of my reverse judder on my Fiat Ducato 2.3 on a 57 plate. On 18 Sept I had the second modification carried out and I’m pleased to report that all is now well. It’s taken nearly 2yrs to get the job done but they got there in the end. If you could lay your hands on a copy of the July edition of the Caravan Club Magazine there was a very informative article by Andy Stothert, a man who has worked very hard over the last 2yrs to get Fiat to come clean and admit that a fault did exist. Finally, I’m returning 30 mpg overall, the computer says a bit more, but tank to tank fillups show 30 mpg, not exceeding 60 mph. The van is 23 ft long and 3500 kg. If you need a case number Fiat UK will oblige. It’s all in your handbook, or phone 00800 34280000, your dealer will be your first point of call, he will test the van and take it from there. Good luck - Leslie Thorley from England
Submitted: 10/12/2008 11:28:53 | ID: 2247
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First the pluses - good car to look at, big car feel, good MPG, goes like s**t of of a shovel. But the down side is the maintenance to replace a simple thing like the air filter is a nightmare - you have to take half the car to pieces - to replace the cam belt is at least 4 hours work and none of these jobs can be tackled by the faint hearted. They are designed to be difficult because they want you to take it along to your local unfriendly Fiat dealer and pay at least £72 per hour plus VAT. Fiat parts are expensive. It’s a good car until things go wrong.
Submitted: 09/12/2008 10:28:57 | ID: 2241
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I brought this Fiat based motorhome in May 2008. From day one we have experienced a severe judder. It only been back to the dealers 10 times; I say only because we have now abandoned this heap of junk on the drive, we are totally sick of it. On every occasion we reverse we end up back at the dealers for several hours. To date we have only done 2100 miles, approximately 500 of these have been done by Fiat. The dealer is useless.
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Our motor home is just 13 months old with 2,000 miles on the clock. It has had two modifications done and been inspected by a Fiat rep. The reverse judder is so bad we dare not reverse onto levelling blocks. Have today been told that they will do nothing morel!! Like yours, ours is in the drive - we daren't take it out for fear of burning out clutch, etc. - Mary Morton from Yorkshire
I'm considering buying a motorhome based on the Fiat Ducato and I've heard of this reverse judder. I've also heard that the more powerful engines suffer less. I have noticed that some lower-end coachbuilders offer an engine having only 100hp which strikes me as being far too small for such large vehicles. Many reviews report such reverse judder but I would very much like to know what the horsepower output their engine has. Please, any other reviewers, it could help if you also mentioned your engine's output - Philip Davies from Staffordshire
Hi! I’ve just got a Fiat ducato motorhome 09, and hey presto, at 2000 miles on the clock the 1st and 2nd gear went, then 5th 6th, then problems in reverse gear with huge shudderings and then a that clutch smells the street out. It’s done more miles on a back of a transporter! Fiat have been useless with the repairs, and it came up that there was 7 recalls on it. It’s been in the so called workshop for well over a month, with no estimate of when it’ll be ready. Stress? A mountain of it! Fiat customer service? I could right on the back of a postage stamp what they know about this, appalling. I wish I had bought a Mercedes - Michael Palmer from Rhondda Cynon Taff
Submitted: 09/12/2008 10:15:51 | ID: 2240
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Very nice car and exceptional value for money. Touch wood, we haven’t had any of the problems listed. Just changed the tyres after 17,000 miles (my old Mondeo used to get through them quicker than that.) Very roomy with plenty of space for the kids in the back and the luggage in the boot. It feels safe and the ride is pleasant and comfortable. I would highly recommend it.
Submitted: 26/11/2008 11:37:37 | ID: 2196
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I have a 2005, mk2b 1.25 16v active sport Punto... It’s fantastic!
Submitted: 25/11/2008 08:48:59 | ID: 2185
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I was offered drive away in an hour with free insurance and a years road tax from dealer Stoneacre in Liverpool. I couldn’t resist - it was my first ever brand new car. After a day I realised why they offered such a great sounding package - the car is a pile of poo. Gutless to the extreme - boring to drive. Anyone with size 8 or bigger feet has to take their left shoe off because no space on footrest. After one day there is a clunk from transmission on pulling away and gear changing (dealer said changed engine and gearbox mounts) never cured fault. After 2 weeks drivers door handle broke (replaced). 3 months all dash warning lights came on then went off on my way to dealers (they said I was imagining it). NEVER EVER AGAIN CIAO FIAT. I got rid at 12 months old and bought a second hand Honda Accord - a proper car!!
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You should test drive next time before you buy - Rafael from Lancashire
Submitted: 17/11/2008 09:00:55 | ID: 2166
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I fell in love with the looks of the car and thought it would be great to have a Fiat again after owning them in the 70s-80s. Also I foolishly believed the top gear magazine road test which made great claims about the gutsy performance. The reality is that the 1.4 8 valve engine is totally inadequate to give anything like performance of any kind. Quality is also poor e.g. door handle broke after 1 month; knock from flywheel area from new (never got sorted dealer didn’t give a b****r) all warning lights come on for no reason then went off next day on their own (dealer thought I was lying). I got rid of it after 1 year and bought an 8 year old Honda for 1500 quid from an auction which I still own (now that’s a proper car). No, all in all the Grande Punto was the 1st brand new car I have ever bought and the last. It was a disappointment to say the least.
Submitted: 17/11/2008 08:52:16 | ID: 2164
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In April this year I bought a nice sunny new Fiat Ducato Base Motorhome; the 2.3 engine is very responsive and pulls well from low revs; the only problem I’ve had with the Fiat so far has been 2 duff batteries, 1 leisure and the engine battery. The dealer I bought it from replaced the leisure battery with no hesitation but it’s been a different story trying to get the engine battery replaced, the Fiat dealer has put up more fences than the grand national. I’ve contacted Fiat direct about it as I was worried about the service. It’s hard to get work done under warranty - what would the service be like to get an oil change? But I have to get it serviced by a Fiat dealer to keep the warranty active, they have informed me I can travel to Dublin to get this done! So, in conclusion, the main problem doesn’t lie with the Ducato but the dealers who service them. The first dealer I used even found a spare wheel on the van which was news to me as they don’t come with one! So that explains why I won’t be using them again. My Ducato has done over 5000 miles including a trip to Holland and many to the Republic of Ireland as well as England and I’ve had no problems with it so far (touch wood). One main note is to check the dealer service before you have any work done.
Submitted: 12/11/2008 09:38:16 | ID: 2141
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I need people to contact me re: the difficulty with Fiat Ducato Motorhomes Vans! My 2008 4.5 tonne motorhome is shuddering in reverse gear and the clutch is burning when tryng to reverse due to a problem known by Fiat to exist. I am looking at taking a class action re: this problem and need anyone who has a problem to contact me. moyne@gpsi.ie
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Same situation as your self. 2 modifications done to 2.3 multijet gearbox. Reverse gear judder so bad daren’t use van. Today been told by Fiat that they won’t do anything else - Mary Morton from Yorkshire
I have a Bessacarr 2.2 Ducato, which I bought new in October 2007. I too have had to replace my engine battery, and on two occasions have had to jump start it. I have reported the reverse judder to Fiat in Italy. Their reply was, they are only carrying out modifications to the 2,3. What is it with Fiat? They know they have a serious problem with the reverse gear, yet they refuse to acknowledge it. My worse nightmare happened after filling up at a very busy service station. It just would not start, and the battery showed it was completely dead. I stripped the battery cover off, pulled and pushed the battery leads on the positive side, and with great relief, it started. I have checked and tightened all the leads and now intend to replace the five strip fuses on the positive connection to see if this will solve the problem. That’s when I can find a local supplier - John Maddison from England
Purchased a new 3L M/home and unit started selecting neutral (tiptronic gearbox). Had months of trouble. Turned out to be the loom wiring that Fiat did know about. Now have a 2008 ducato (3L) manual. Gearbox flywheel is dual and there was too much play. I have had it replaced at my expense $4,500. The van has only done 2600km. Swift UK were great. Fiat UK also great. Fiat International not so. I have a global Warranty that I had to create a paper trail from Italy to UK to NZ and then prove I was the first owner - John Shortland from New Zealand
Submitted: 10/11/2008 16:23:07 | ID: 2130
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40,000 miles up and no problems. A good little van so far.
Submitted: 06/11/2008 10:39:08 | ID: 2121
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Done 34000 miles had a problem with the clutch. Pedal stays down you and have to pump it to change gear. Been in five times, still waiting for them to take out the gear box to check. Now the brakes have gone faulty, it would not stop. Been told the brake cylinder & servo are faulty but I have to wait for the parts to arrive. I won’t hold my breathe!
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Did you ever resolve the clutch pedal problem? I’ve got a CI Motorhome (05) based on a Ducato and the same thing keeps happening to us. After about 20 mins the pedal becomes stiff and squeaks loudly (when pushed down - not when raised). It then stays down and has to be forced back up. A couple of tricky and quite scary situations have been the result. The AA attended and were mystified. Did you get it sorted? - Ian Wright from Staffordshire
Submitted: 29/10/2008 12:06:14 | ID: 2088
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Whatever you do - don’t buy a Fiat Ducato!!!!!! There are two very serious problems; one can kill you the other will kill your bank account. Fiat denies all responsibility and knowledge of course. 1. Steering mechanism where it leaves the cab has a rotating bolt that can catch on items - in our case the factory fitted carpet caught on it resulting in total seizure of the steering system, fortunately at low speed so we survived. Fiat’s response - not our problem! Checked other types of vehicles and these either have protection, bolt higher up out of harm’s way or no bolt protruding. 2. Judder on reverse - one burnt out clutch in 3000 miles. Lots of others Fiat owners appear to have this problem - Fiat say it’s within specification. In our view Fiat are both incompetent and acting in a criminally negligent way. They are producing vehicles they have serious defects and they know it. Whatever you do - DON’T BUY FIAT! Pity there isn’t a negative rating.
Submitted: 28/10/2008 11:19:54 | ID: 2082
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Bought my Punto in 2003 with 199 miles on the clock. Has a full Fiat service history until this year when local garage did the pre MOT service and found the horn not working. I’m just about to have the faulty radiator fan replaced, all in all, not bad repair record for a 5 year old car. Really nippy around town and easy parking with the city steering on. My trusty little steed has taken me all around the UK both with and without the kids!! I bought my Punto after using the works one and guess what my next car will be - you got it!! A Punto :)
Submitted: 27/10/2008 10:50:51 | ID: 2072
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Great drive though does lean a bit on the bends. Engine blew at 85K 3 years 1 month old, so had to pay for new engine £3,000.00 ouch . Back rides very low when laden to near max weight. Now on 120K had 3 new alternators, 1 radiator, 1 engine, 2 starter motors and broke down a few times with the crankshaft sensor fault. Electric drivers window wont work now, the big glass area seems to big for the motor to move, need a bit of hand assistance. Oh and I found the brake and accelerator pedals too close together so I crashed it after 3 weeks when I stood on the brake and caught the accelerator pedal too! Actually come to think of it, crap.
Submitted: 22/10/2008 10:36:27 | ID: 2058
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Great car to drive, spacious and a lovely drive. 150 multijet diesel is an excellent engine, plenty of torque. Loads of head & leg room. OK for baby and pushchair, decent sound system. Cruise control is great. Sun blinds on rear windows is handy when baby is in car. On the bad side - It seems to go through tyres by 10,000 miles, right front inner tyre wear seems strange. Had brake servo replaced & boot catch, around 10k. Sky dome is very slow to close, sometimes stops half open. Handbrake could be better positioned.
Submitted: 20/10/2008 10:19:28 | ID: 2035
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After 3 years driving a Mondeo ST TDCI I moved onto my new Bravo and I could not believe that the little thing has more power, more torque and yet drinks less diesel. I love the ride, the feel, the overall experience. Only drawbacks for me are the following: - No armrest - No footrest - No way of cleaning the windows by lowering them - No heated front screen (Ford only unfortunately) - Blue&me very temperamental - I still wouldn’t go back though!!
Submitted: 17/10/2008 16:28:03 | ID: 2031
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I have had my Stilo Multiwagon 1.9 now for 2 years - it has never let me down - plenty of power and room and Fiat after-sales is also first class. I would recommend it.
Submitted: 13/10/2008 10:07:03 | ID: 2005
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The best car I’ve ever bought. It is reliable and cheap to maintain, have had it for over 8 years.
Submitted: 13/10/2008 09:01:49 | ID: 1994
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I have now had this car for over 5years and has not let me down out on the road. Its main foible is brake pipes, everything else has been just wear over the years e.g. exhaust 3 years, tyres only had to renew one due to wear after 33000miles but it was on the car when I bought it with 14000miles on the clock. Others have been replaced due to punctures but as the other tyre was part worn I replaced it at the same time at around £26.00. All in all it has been worth it mpg is not brilliant but on a run at 70-75mph it gives around 46mpg and running around 34mpg. My wife also has one that is 6 months younger; she had to have new front shocks at 2 years and 11 months so it was done under warranty.
Submitted: 09/10/2008 11:33:46 | ID: 1981
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Bought the car 6 years ago and I can honestly say that I have totally enjoyed it., A nippy wee car and it’s taken us up and down Britain over the years; Blackpool, Liverpool, Hastings, Brighton. Oh canny forget Saltcoats - all being well we will pick up our new Punto on Monday - can’t see us changing makes ever again.
Submitted: 03/10/2008 14:35:14 | ID: 1964
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Best all rounder. The three litre engine performs extremely well with plenty of smooth power. Package competitively priced and finishing superb.
Submitted: 29/09/2008 10:45:05 | ID: 1945
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Much underrated/overlooked family saloon, better looking/more fun to drive than most of this type - especially with the smooth 5 cylinder engine, with enough poke to put hot hatches in their place. Due to it’s power/weight, I was expecting low 20’s MPG when I bought it, but get between 27-35MPG and no failures in 20 months/16,000 miles so far. Insurance could be a killer if you’re under 25 and road tax could rocket in future years unless you choose version/year carefully, but a great, solid-feeling motor all the same. Makes paying £7K+ for a used A4/3 series seem daft, unless you really believe in all that ’better dashboard plastics’ b*llsh*te of the car mags.
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I had a Mareva, what a heap of sh*t, when they rust that’s the end of them - Stuart Rance from Sussex
Isn’t a Meriva a Vauxhall? You obviously know your onions mate! - Neil Dempsey from England
I think Stuart has strong opinions but his opinions are a bit out, I have had 4 Mareas and never had any problems T980 VWS : Marea weekend 20v V324 MMJ : Marea weekend 155 20v SD02 EWZ : Marea weekend 100 16v V977 EFB : Marea weekend 1.6 16v - none of these cars had rust, always maintained by FIAT main dealer and all of these cars went past 200,000 miles so they’re not a piece of sh*t - Miguel Freitas from Kent
Submitted: 26/09/2008 09:43:34 | ID: 1938
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Have had this car from new, has had new clutch under warranty and cooling fan at 13000 miles. It gets serviced annually. Since then I find the car is a delight to drive, a nice gear shift, smooth and and quiet nippy too. Cabin well put together, no rattles. Overall, very pleased with this car.
Submitted: 26/09/2008 09:41:41 | ID: 1937
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Owning this vehicle is fun, the 1.9 diesel is a very good engine and more so in such a light and small car, it does sometimes deliver more power than the front wheels can hold but that adds to the excitement. All in all it is a very good car for the price, albeit a little small inside, the trim is fair and the ride is not too uncomfortable on long motorway journeys. To be honest it brings back my go-karting days and the smile that went with that, it still gives me a thrill when I floor it. It is such a shame that they discontinued the 4 door model in favour of targeting the sports market (young drivers) this model is only a few BHP behind the sports version and in my mind a far superior car and cheaper and just as fast, if you can find one buy it, it will save money on insurance, after all this one is a family car.
Submitted: 23/09/2008 08:54:04 | ID: 1919
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We have 2 Ducato Maxis 51 plate 70k miles 06 20k miles, both 2.8 jtd - never had a problem... Fantastic - best van on the market to drive....Take loads of weight etc... We had an N plate 2.5 that was better & more reliable than the VW Transporters we have had & still have.... much cheaper too!...We have 3.0L extra long extra high on order... Hope its as good as the other 3... Ps My brother’s got an X plate as well & apart from 1 wheel bearing that’s been great to... Maybe we are easy drivers?
Submitted: 23/09/2008 08:45:18 | ID: 1916
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Done over 20k miles the only thing to go wrong was the clutch return, the spring broke (apparently this is a vauxhall vectra problem). May nead 2 new tyers soon, lovely car and the kids love the extra leg room in the back. Got a great deal from the dealer as it was a discontinued model but what other large executive size car can you get brand new for less than £11k???? Will keep this car until Fiat release another similar sized car that can tow a descent sized family caravan.
Submitted: 18/09/2008 09:59:18 | ID: 1910
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I bought a second hand Maxi June this year (July 2006 model) I intend converting it to a camper. The van performed well around Germany. Took it over the boarder to Austria, over the Alps. It climbed very well, kept cool in the heat, but coming down the Grossglockner after 3 Kms the front discs started smoking, I was in low gear letting the engine do the work and correcting the engine revs with slight use of brakes. It took 45 mins to allow the vehicle to cool, to safely drive on, I had to use the hand brake to correct the engine revs, driving in 2nd gear as slow as 20 kph. I stopped at the nearest garage to check out what I thought must be a fault on the front discs. All is correct, just badly overheated brakes. I have since had it in Fiat dealer to find out all the brakes need replaced on newly replaced front discs. The problem? Too small discs on the front for a 3.5 tonne van, every time we do this the whole brakes will need replaced they said 1000 euro. The wheels do not allow for the air to pass freely to the discs to cool and the disc area is to small for the size of the van. What a crazy way to build a van 150 BHP and no brake power to stop a full loaded van. In Germany the front disc is bigger since the van is allowed to travel faster. In a country with mountains, because there is a restriction in speed, the brakes in the front are smaller. What a crazy company, build a van to go up a mountain but not to come down. And what a safety feature, yes they get off with it. Do I hear any driving clubs complaining about the biggest used van in the camper trade can’t come down hills!!! So you folks with a Ducto campers stay away from mountains, unless you come down less than 20 KPH and a bit at a time.
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YES CHRIS EVANS, I too had overheating brakes in mountain country in my new 2008 DUCATO MAXI 3L common rail turbo charged (IVECO DIESEL FACTORY FITTED). I have found this vehicle pleasant to drive but VERY WEAK in body construction. I hit a small dog on the highway at 100kph, this caused lots of damage as there is no strong protection on the front end and parts cost an arm and a leg. I’m in AUSTRALIA by the way and would not like to hit a large red roo, wild pig or goat in central Australia where to drive at night is a hazzard. The vehicle is an RV. Had I not rushed in and had done my home work I would not have bought a FIAT, just getting the SELENIA WR engine oil is painful. All vechicles in the outback Australia have solid steel bull bars, but on this DUCATO there is simply no place to fit one. FIAT have a bar that is made out of thin aluminium and attaches to body parts, which costs an arm and a leg and is only good for cosmetic looks...a two year old could wreck it with a small rubber hammer! STAY SAFE - Dennis Yates from Australia
As all Norwegians, I’m used to driving up and down mountains. The rule is to use the same gear going down as up. One should never brake lightly, because then the brakepads are in contact with the disc all the time. Brake firm to you allmost stop - then let go the break totally until the revs come up high. Then brake hard again, and repeat. I just drove over several passes in the Alps with my Campervan which is a Hymer on a Fiat Ducato maxi with the 160 multijet. The car was 4000kg, and I had no problems at all - Halfdan Langfeldt from Norway
Submitted: 17/09/2008 09:35:56 | ID: 1906
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Petrol version does 40 mpg if you drive like a granny. Good for developing patience and understanding of other road users, who drive inferior vehicles. Or not as the case may be. Juddery clutch, v. light, requires a few revs on take up same as some other cars. On the whole, good and comfy for arthritics etc. Will get another.
Submitted: 15/09/2008 16:46:08 | ID: 1894
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This is a fabulous car, cheap to run, fantastic punch and good quality and reliability. The 3 door is better looking than the 5 door but is obviously less practical, that said I have no problems seating 5 in my 3 door. I would highly recommend this car but please don’t get a yellow one, they look ridiculous.
Submitted: 11/09/2008 09:33:06 | ID: 1874
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Have had our Doblo from new in April 2008, please with vehicle but not dealer. Day 1 couldn’t lock as dodgy sensor on back sliding door-obviously not PDi’d properly, also hardly sent out properly de-waxed and cleaned for a new vehicle. Loud clunck when steering on full lock-service manager said Fiat ’know about it’ and are working on modification-wait till 1st service. Since then clutch noise/burn and smell. Dealer have now booked in to get both problems sorted under warranty-want car for at least a week, it goes in next week-will keep you posted.
Submitted: 03/09/2008 12:58:01 | ID: 1848
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I have had this van for almost a month and a half now, picked it up new with delivery mileage on the clock. From day one the van pulls severely to the left and is physically harder to steer to the right as opposed to the left. Visited the dealer twice to have the problem remedied (tracking, steering alignment, etc) problem still exists, even had the service manager out for a road test and was told these vans are harder to steer to the right than left and the camber of the road causes the van to pull left. I took the opportunity to independently road test 2 other identical vans and guess what? ....... they do not have any of the symptoms of my van.
Submitted: 29/08/2008 09:04:33 | ID: 1834
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I bought this wonderful car from new. I have had problems with the head gasket [as per other people] but I have been absolutely enthralled by its style [which still puts more modern cars in the shade] and its performance. It seems to have a restrictor that curtails rapid acceleration up to 105mph but its real character shows when you drop down to third from forth, the car just flies! Unlike some, I find the extra width of tyre on road gives the driver the feeling of sticking to the road. There is very little roll and it’s an absolute pleasure to corner in this very safe-to-drive and value-for-money superstar. I make any excuse to drive the thing - Fiat got the design really sorted with galvanised bodywork that doesn’t have a hint of rust after eight years! I’m keeping mine as I’m sure it will be a "classic" in years to come. Economy - even though it’s a 1.2 multi-point ’injection’ carb., I get fifty to the gallon on a run, wow! It’s all true...............
Submitted: 07/08/2008 13:12:26 | ID: 1754
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I also run a Fiat Ducato 1998 motorhome which I have not had any problems with since I bought it in 1998.
Submitted: 05/08/2008 14:19:20 | ID: 1748
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We had a head on crash with the back of a lorry in ours - not at fast speed 20/30mph and the car crumpled like paper. There seemed to be no safety in it whatsoever. Luckily the children were unharmed in the back, but the front of the car just gave way and the lorry demolished the front of the car where I was sat. Lucky to be alive - no thanks to the lightweight Punto.
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The car crumpled like paper because it was designed to do so- the reason why you are still alive is because as the car crumpled it absorbed and dissipated the energy produced as a result of the opposed forces generated by the crash thus decreasing the force transmitted through the cabin into your body - Richard from England
The guy’s got a point. I’m sure you would rather the engine was dead rather than your face, watch crash tests and you’ll see how it’s not really the car’s health that you should be worrying about - Adam from Hampshire
Submitted: 04/08/2008 12:01:34 | ID: 1743
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Main selling point design not price. Fiat made a good job. For my impression it has a good quality level, look to the welding points and battery connections. Petrol consumption OK. Mainly made for adults, safety belts on back-seat uncomfortable for children. Sportive car like Seat Leon, BMW One, Alpha 147 not optimised as a family and luggage car. My family drives a Citroen Berlingo and since 3 months the Fiat Bravo as the second car. Handfree speaking incl. Bluetooth TOP.
Submitted: 04/08/2008 08:39:23 | ID: 1741
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Nightmare car, have spent 3,000 in repairs in the last year. Head gasket blown, new water pump, new computer that cost £400, the list goes on and on...
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I take it by the year 2002, it’s the old Panda - Paul Johnson from Yorkshire
Submitted: 04/08/2008 08:32:24 | ID: 1737
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Obtained car when just under 7000 miles on the clock, now 70,000. Had no problems, only cost new timing belt fitted at 50,000. Exhaust, just had new brake discs. Been very pleased with a reliable car. Had a Brava before, found that good but more pleased with the Marea. Also tow small caravan which it has no difficulty in towing.
Submitted: 04/08/2008 08:30:48 | ID: 1736
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Great car to drive, spacious and a lovely drive. On the bad side - never had more than 33mpg out of it. It goes through tyres every 10,000 miles, eats break pads about the same every 10,000-11000 miles. Already had new disks all round. Lost count of the recalls on different things. I have been driving Fiats for 25 years, this is by far the most luxurious and the most expensive to run I have ever owned. Generally I have not a bad thing to say about Fiat but if this had been my first it would have been my last. The big question is how can a company with so much experience end up with a model so lousy. One would have thought with the mess they made of its namesake predecessor they would not let it happen again. PS: It’s currently in for a 40,000 mile (three year) service and needs new front disk pads again. For info my last vehicle a Stilo Abarth did 60,000 on the same disks and pads.
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Just bought this very same car, Mr Fields was the previous owner. I’m hoping I feel differently to him when I’ve had it a while, although I know now the fuel consumption isn`t good, I`m only getting 31 mpg but hope it gets better when I`m doing the usual Blackpool run. I find the drive to be very good, it’s comfortable and roomy and at the moment I love it - Martin Taylor from Lancashire
I have an 05 16v 150bhp Eleganza and find it strange that the fuel consumption is so bad, I average 38 - 55mpg but I did have a problem with one F disc wearing out more than the other, this was rectified by a new Master Cylinder, after a new Caliper then a new Hose. This problem was holding the car back. Do consider an after market Diesel Tuning Chip. I bought one from SPEEDUP. IT called a D-Box and it’s been great for the last 3 years, the car is more responsive and the mpg greatly improved. Other problems? alternator MELTED this time last year £190, broke a F spring this year, (Hertfordshire Roads!!) so changed both. Boot lock, I sprayed WD40 into it and it seems to have cleared, I love the car, 46,000 mls to date, 3 trips to Italy and didn’t miss a beat. Presently I have the Engine Check light on and need to clear this up!!! - Vince Ciuffa from Hertfordshire
Submitted: 31/07/2008 14:27:07 | ID: 1726
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I own a Seicento Schumacher sporting limited edition which I bought in June due to my Peugeot being written off. I decided to downsize because of ever increasing running costs, Iam more than pleased, it drives like a go-cart, lovely, comfortable seats, very nippy with smooth fuel injected 1.1 litre fire engine. Very light electric power steering and very economical cheap insurance, road tax etc, surprisingly roomy interior and not very bumpy either. Time will tell with the reliability but so far so good, also, build quality seems good - the doors shut with a German sounding thud, lots of extras tints alloys fogs, everything. I have owned Fiats in the past and its good to be back.
Submitted: 31/07/2008 10:43:26 | ID: 1723
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Disgusting customer service, noisy gearbox and clutch judder from new, Fiat could not diagnose correctly so advised to let it develop! Once the vehicle is 12 months old the clutch is no longer covered by warranty - beware. Terrible ride, if you want an MPVdon’t buy this and expect a car it’s most definitely a van, not a car. We had a Berlingo before it and would recommend the Citroen but no way buy a Fiat. The 1.9jtd is noisy, thirsty but provides good performance.
Submitted: 23/07/2008 11:21:09 | ID: 1701
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I have had 3 Ducato’s since 2004 in motorhome form - a 2004 2.3l, 2006 2.3l and my current Multijet 2.2 100 dci. I am surprised at the low level of satisfaction of other owners on this site. I have to say that I have not encountered any problems with the Ducato and in fact find the unit a pleasure to drive and own.
Submitted: 21/07/2008 08:58:56 | ID: 1686
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The Fiat (which stands for Fix It Again Tomorrow) Seicento is one of the worst cars you can buy. The safety rating is diabolical and the worst of any car ever made since the testing scheme was introduced. Secondly, when I had my Seicento I had it for less than 12 months and it broke down 8 times. So, in conclusion, the Seicento is not only the most dangerous car around but it is also one of the most unreliable.
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I’ve had a Seicento for the last 4 years, it was cheap to buy and I’m not surprised why. 7 clutch cables snapped, a plastic disc that holds the cable also snapped 4 times, new tyres exhaust system, a new "cat",alternator, battery,handbrake cables and linkage. If you want to keep your local garage accustomed to a good life style by all means buy a Fiat seicento, otherwise do what I’m doing, dumping it to the scrap man - Robert Smith from Lincolnshire
Submitted: 18/07/2008 15:59:04 | ID: 1685
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Bought new. Could never get to start first time, engine very noisey, took mechanics 2 yrs to find timing was out. Replaced:- electric window motor, part for horn, timing sensor, ignition key lock mechanism, part for heater,all within the first 10000 miles. Now the reverse gear has deveopled a problem and starts to burn when under any load such as going up hill. Huge gaps in cab doors, passenger always gets frozen. FIAT should stand for Fix It Again Tommorrow. Low intial cost but the maintenane and repairs will break you. Never again.
Submitted: 08/07/2008 12:20:24 | ID: 1640
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I purchased the van in May 2007. I specified a multitude of extras at what appears to be a very reasonable cost compared with other makes. Problem No. 1 should have set alarm bells ringing. At 100 miles from new the van was in workshop having tow bar and roof rack fitted, when it was moved there appeared a large pool of oil on the floor. Local fiat dealer had van off road for over a week and reluctantly lent me a Citroen Berlingo whilst sourcing replacement oil seal from Italy (could have come from the most remote African state, the time it took!) To cut along story short the van is now in another Fiat dealer workshop and there it has been for the last 5wks whilst awaiting a new gearbox. Fiat have not got the 1st idea about customer relations. I managed to get the dealer to loan me their demo Ducato (a fact that they regret now) but this is no compensation for the inconvenience of not having my sign written fully racked out, kitted personal van. Not once has anybody from Fiat or the dealership contacted me - I’ve had to ring them every time (via Italy!!!) Look at the Fiat web site they proudly advertise the fact that they are aware how dificult it is to be without your van for even as little as half a day!!! As of today there is still no date when the van will be fixed. SAVE YOUR PENNIES AND BUY A BETTER VAN - FORGET FIAT!!.
Submitted: 08/07/2008 12:01:13 | ID: 1637
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A total peace of crap, 3 months old and in the garage for the 5th time. Had to have new wiper switches, washer motors, clutch and brake cylinders, frost calliper leaked, now total electirical failing, ABS , EBD, ASR and power steering failed. Then car imobilizer failed and locked car down I was stuck in town for 2 hours waiting for RAC, car still in garage they still have no idea what is wrong with it, I remain driving a rental Vauxhall Astra, its much better than the punto.
Submitted: 08/07/2008 11:50:11 | ID: 1633
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We purchased our Ducato van in July 2007. Since then it has been in and out of Fiat dealership constantly. The engine management light comes on it looses power (so called get home mode) and we have to park up lock /unlock many times for it to clear. This happens at least twice a day. Fiat have replaced many items on the engine management but to no avail, we are at our wits end. Our rating should be minus 5.
Submitted: 02/07/2008 11:32:33 | ID: 1623
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I’ve had nothing but joy from this car. Don’t get me wrong, Fiats do have their faults, but this one Fiat appears to have got right. Being the 2.4 it has 200BHP, and was fast - in fact surprisingly fast considering it’s size and diesel engine (I also drive response Police vehicles so I’m not used to 1.1 Pandas ;)). I paid �249 to have it ’chipped’ which made a massive amount of difference. The car is astronomically fast and is great fun. A few times I’ve been past 140+mph. I have had a few issues with the sun dome roof which were sorted under warranty and with tracking, but all now, touch wood, appear to have been solved. The only reason I gave it 4 stars was the fact that the dealers are next to useless and they stopped selling the car in the UK. I am worried about support for it in the future but having a Saab and Vauxhall connection, hope this wont be too much of a problem. All in all a great car which I would highly recommend but only the 2.4 Prestigio, due to high equipment levels and superior performance.
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Hello I got my 2.4JTD late last year and so far impressed. Can I ask about the chipping you had done, which company did you use? Thanks - Martin Cooke from Kent
Submitted: 11/06/2008 13:41:26 | ID: 1550
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I took delivery of a new motorhome with the powerful 160 engine on 02/06/2008. We decided to pay the additional �1400 and go for the Comformatic auto gearbox. On delivery the speedo trip read 48 miles, and at 139 miles (3 days later) the auto box died and we coasted to a halt. Selecting manual control made no difference, we had no drive at all. The motorhome was taken on a low loader to my nearest Fiat comercial dealer where it has undergone one and a half days examination with the computer attached to no evail. The dealer has been liasing with Fiat to resolve the problem but so far no joy, Fiat have now told them to remove the gearbox so they can examine it further. Am I alone here or are there others of you out there that are or have experienced the same problem?. Just one final note the dealer(who shall remain nameless at the moment) refused to take the vehicle back and told us in no uncertain terms that he would not allow the breakdown truck to off load this new motorhome on their sales forecourt. How about that for customer service!
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Having a fleet of swift manufactured motorhomes, all with the Fiat 3.0 litre turbo diesel automatic engine, we are now starting to hit transmission problems, One has been replaced along with the clutch under warranty at 14 months old 35000kms, and now they seem to be forming a queue to do the same. The actual repair under warranty alone took 6 weeks!! Three of those being Fiat deciding if it was a warranty issue. Anyone having similar problems? - Kay Slater from Nottinghamshire
Submitted: 11/06/2008 13:37:34 | ID: 1549
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All I can say is, buy a Merc sprinter. I’m a courier done 120,000 in just over a year, Merc sprinter 313 cdi,and no faults at all. Buy a cheap van and you will always have problems.
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I totally agree with you, I had a sprinter for 8 years, let me down once when master cylinder packed up. I bought a Fiat Ducato 120 mwb with 5000 miles on the clock, the first week it stalled on motorway doing 70+ 4 times, now fixed but the juddering in reverse up a hill is unbelievable, feels like the box will explode! Now at 15000 miles it judders in first as well. Fiat’s answer was to put new gearbox mounts on, a waste of time. I asked the engineer to drive to a slope and reverse up it, he said no; we’ll just reverse with the handbrake on but did agreed there was a problem. I’ve been waiting 6 months for an answer, but have just been fobbed off when I phone. I think they are waiting for my warranty to run out in 1 year’s time. "Sprinter is King" - Waz G from England
Submitted: 09/06/2008 09:24:07 | ID: 1545
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Great car. Smooth ride and handling. I had a Stilo before but the Bravo is quite an improvement under all points of view. True about the back window, but that is part of the car style.
Submitted: 04/06/2008 08:33:37 | ID: 1527
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Fiat Ducato 2.0jtd 55 plate. Dreadful van! Noisy back end sounds like suspension is about to fall off, handles dreadfully. Bald front tyres at 15,000 miles - 65 mph = 3200 rpm - 70 mph = 3600 rpm = bad fuel economy - uses diesel like its going out of fashion. Side loading door rubber seal falls off every time I open the door. I can see daylight through back doors when they are shut. I could go on for ever, this is my second Fiat and it will be my last. Trading it now for a Nissan Primestar. Not impressed at all. AVOID.........
Submitted: 04/06/2008 08:32:16 | ID: 1526
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I bought this Ducato based motorhome just over a year ago. It’s done nearly 7000 miles and has recently had its first service (a Fiat low mileage service) It’s great to drive, much better that my previous model Ducato with a 2.3 engine. The controls are all very light in comparison and you easily forget it weighs around 3 tonnes. Despite the low mileage, when it does get used it tends to be on 4 or 5 hour journeys and it is very comfortable over that period of time. I like its looks, handling, comfort and ability to haul around its permanent heavy load with relatively decent fuel economy. Problems? It’s had a recall done for an engine cover to prevent damage from water ingress. Another recall dealt with a steering rack issue. Separately from these recalls it’s currently on its third starter motor (including the one fitted at the factory) and the drivers side windscreen washer jet went phut. It was a bit juddery in first and reverse gear but that seems to have disappeared after it was serviced following a flash upgrade to its engine management computer. This also seems to have made it slightly more economical. I’m not impressed with my Fiat dealer though as they never seem able to fully deal with problems on a first visit.
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I have a Fiat Adria motorhome with a 2.2 100 multijet and have recently had engine management problems. The engine failed to start and some of the warning light symbols failed to show on the console. North East Van & Truck tested it with their computer and the computer print-out showed (among other unrelated items) a fault on the engine control unit (ecu). They deleted the error and the engine started but since then it has failed several times. Luckily, it has been at home when this happened. I couldn’t get the vehicle to the garage so I called out a mobile vehicle electrician from AP & P who has been indefatigable in trying to find the fault. It seems to lie in the area between the ecu (behind the fuse box under the bonnet) and the plug at the dashboard end (in the fuse compartment under the dash). The ignition key code is not being recognised intermittently. Moving the plugs about on either end of this cable cluster sometimes brings up the missing symbols and the vehicle will start. I wondered if a Flash upgrade is the answer? Fiat have not offered that to me so far - D.W Duckering from Lincolnshire
Submitted: 02/06/2008 08:45:25 | ID: 1514
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Purchased in June 2007. Engine management light always coming on. After 5,000 miles EGR valve went. No courtesy car from Desira, Southgate. Handbrake in a stupid position, cup holders useless, fag lighter doesn’t stay in, storage compartment falls open when going over bumps. GET THIS ALL YOU DUCATO OWNERS...... some crooks punch a hole under the rear handle, push a screwdriver up it and hey presto, opens the back. Lost £1,500 worth of tools, took the mechanism out, but they then done the drivers door. Heap of s***e. Learned my lesson - put in a little bit more money and buy something decent.
Submitted: 02/06/2008 08:43:46 | ID: 1513
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I have no problems with my Ducato Maxi. It’s done 10,000 trouble free miles, all the problems seem to be with the 2.2 100 hp engines. No leaks on my van either but I do have to agree - strong judder in reverse. It seems to be high geared, also best looking van on the market . This is my 2nd Ducato and the last one was no trouble neither.
Submitted: 28/05/2008 12:10:53 | ID: 1506
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I purchased a Swift Bolero in May 2008 with the Fiat 2.3 Multijet engine. When we arrived back in Northern Ireland the engine would not start and I was left until last so as a mechanic could jump start it. A brand new vehicle. How embarrassing is that? The battery was dead and had to be replaced. I believe this is quite common with this vehicle but Fiat will not accept any responsibility for any vehicles that have been around for a while waiting for conversion. The motorhome dealer had to replace the battery. On my first trip away the injector warning light came on and the engine cut out. I was lucky that I was able to freewheel off the road into a lay by. I restarted the vehicle but the warning light stayed on so I continued on to my destination. A few hours later I started the vehicle and the light went out. This happened again on the way back just as I was approaching a coned off area on the motorway and I just got pulled in where the hards houlder ended. Again it started first time but the light stayed on. As the vehicle was dangerous I immediately booked it into a local Fiat dealer. On leaving my house I let the handbrake off and the button flew out of the end of it. I was on a steep hill and had to temporarily fix it while still keeping my foot on the foot-brake. On the way to the dealers the glove box door dropped open and it appears that it is a very bad fitting. The dealer has now fixed these items but can’t be sure that they will not re-occur. How can I trust such a vehicle? I intended to go to France this June but I think I should give it a longer road test before I go. While it was at the dealer they also did other warranty work including the cover for the engine to stop the water ingress. One of the technicians said he didn’t think this was lasting solution. A motorhome channel on YouTube shows the problem - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWjrqpO4rI
Submitted: 28/05/2008 09:29:10 | ID: 1499
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I love the Bravo Grande Punto ish style, the only drawback is the small windows for kids in the back, and the rear window which I find ironic, but I have the parking advisers and... lot’s of gadgets, the standard ESP with AS/MSR and hill holder is quit excellent and the ride comfort is medium, on highways is excellent! The 1.6 105 HP is my selection and is so smooth it almost scares me! The interior design is trendy and modern, I love the Piano bits and the smooth fabrics in the dashboard, thought the hard plastics in the lower part of the car should be better, but well, I don’t put my fingers on those parts. The value for money, along with the excellent 1.4 T-Jet and 1.6 Mjet units give this car a 5*****
Submitted: 27/05/2008 09:11:04 | ID: 1490
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I purchased the new Fiat 130 MultiJet. It has done 1,100 miles and I have dicovered a vibration on 1st and reverse gears. I have spoken to a local dealer about this problem where I was told that Fiat do not recognise this fault. Has anybody else had this problem?
Submitted: 19/05/2008 09:35:10 | ID: 1480
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Where to start. If it worked it would be a great car. Unfortunately it doesn’t. I have had in under a year: EGR 3 ECU 6. The car completely rewired, 2 new boot releases, 1 new filler cap. A bizarre fault that meant that either the sensor on the electric windows or the engine management didn’t work. The stereo reception is so good I can pick up radio stations practically on the moon. Unfortunately this means that any iPod FM thing is useless due to interference. The Fiat mechanics are useless, as are the dealers, to be fair this is because this is a mix of Fiat/Saab and Vauxhall mechanics. When it works it’s a dream, shame the reliability is a nightmare.
Submitted: 15/05/2008 08:28:32 | ID: 1461
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A great looking little car, both inside and out. It also gives you a nice feeling of safety and security which is not always the case in a supermini. I would like to give the 500 five stars but the handling is not too hot and and the cornering leaves a bit to be desired.
Submitted: 07/05/2008 15:50:11 | ID: 1426
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Car looked fantastic and immediately drew my attention. Paintwork was terrible had extreme case of orange peel! and was even missed on the front bumper. Pedals were too soft and blind spot was huge, ride was comfortable though. Seeing out the back window was a problem too, side windows were too low. Plenty of gadgets including climate control and cruise control, which was fantastic. Overall, this is quite average car which I wouldn’t fork out 12- 14k for.
Submitted: 02/05/2008 08:11:11 | ID: 1399
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I am a proud owner of Fiat Stilo 1.6 16v. I love this car and to be honest nothing can beat the looks of the Stilo 3 door. The engine is beautiful and very refined.... the car does great mileage and is a very nice runner, I have done 120mph in my car which I think is brilliant for a 1.6. The look of the interior is great and it is huge and very spacious... beautiful. I have never had any trouble and I love my car.
Submitted: 28/04/2008 16:13:20 | ID: 1369
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This car is soooooo cute! The attention to detail of the interior takes my breath away. I never used to enjoy driving but since buying the 500 I’ve begun to find myself driving more and more often (not very good from a green perspective admittedly). For a small car it gives a great feeling of safety and security and a car that is pleasingly comfortable. There is something about the 500 that makes you feel like you are stepping back in time every time you open the door and get in - there’s something very 60s about it. The fuel economy is almost double what I’m used to and at a time of rising fuel prices and higher taxes on non-green cars I felt that this car was a pefrect choice in terms of style and finance.
Submitted: 28/04/2008 15:57:45 | ID: 1368
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I don’t regret buying the Grande Punto but part of me feels that I could have done better for the money. If I had the decision to make again I may opt for the Vauxhall Corsa or the VW Golf. It managed to pick one up new for a pretty good price and I have to admit that I was impressed with the style and interior design. The downside for me was the lack of space for passengers, poor suspension and the lack of engine power.
Submitted: 28/04/2008 11:48:53 | ID: 1365
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Okay, I am a guy and I love the Fiat 500. Loved them when I was little and a neighbour had one - love them now. Drives superb, sport mode is divine and firms up the steering for motorway work and at speed. Comfortable for short or long journeys. If you offered me the chance to have my BMW 325 back right now I’d point blank refuse. Love the car - hope it lives up to the hype. So far it has!!!
Submitted: 28/04/2008 08:42:28 | ID: 1357
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I work for Fiat and have taken the Fiorino for a brief test drive. It is a well-thought out subcompact that should be very economic - the 1.3 engine also only emits 119g/km, thus avoiding the congestion charge and helping the environment at the same time. I think that this will be a hit in the commercial sector.
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It MAY have low emission figures around town; but when you have to take it on Motorways you need your foot to the floor so as not to be booked for loitering! - Chris Jordan from Hampshire
Submitted: 25/04/2008 09:05:55 | ID: 1353
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This has to be the best looking car to come out in ages. Retro and modern at the same time it. Such a little car but a huge style statement. Can hardly take my eyes off it! It’s a brilliant car to drive too, very zippy. Love it!
Submitted: 24/04/2008 14:20:05 | ID: 1346
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Purchased this van Nov 2007, van is OK apart from some problems. Problem 1 - uses a lot of oil. Problem 2 - water ingress in the rear of the van, this has caused the wood paneling to go moldy (only happens when it rains). Problem 3 - speedo in not accurate 10mph out of sync . Problem 4 - syncromesh has gone on second gear. Problem 5 - to many recalls on this van even though the van gets sorted out free of charge this still costs me in lost business of up to £800 per day as Fiat do not provide a loan van. Apart from these problems the van is good and puts a good image on my business; also very comfy. I had a Peugeot Boxer for 5 years and never had a problem with this.
Submitted: 23/04/2008 09:41:50 | ID: 1324
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Brilliant little car, on or off road it performs superbly. This is my second Panda 4x4 and still as enjoyable to drive as the first. Cheap as chips to run and you get all that off road capability - what’s not to love! Boot is ample for me and my partner but I agree it’s not huge so not sure how it would fare as a family car. A really fun car.
Submitted: 21/04/2008 17:56:33 | ID: 1305
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I purchased the van last year as secondhand, with 4000 miles on the clock, August 2007. I have put another 14000 miles on the clock since, have encountered two faults: water ingress through the gap in the middle of the rain gutter below the windscreen, leaking onto the engine around the injectors and a warning light on the speedo to do with ignition/injection problem, went out after two days though. I tried to get the van in to have the warning lamp problem investigated, but could not get it seen to until over a week, by which time it had sorted itself. Van whent in for recalls at Guests Motors in Willenhall, could not see what they had done, as the gutter still leaks and no cover fitted to protect the engine from water ingress, just a smearing of some sort of gunk around the injectors. Van runs fine but seems to take a good while for the temperature gauge to rise to normal. Sometimes it idles a bit erratic when first startup then settles down once it has run. Glove box does not close tight and looks as though it is about to fall open when shut. No judder as yet on reversing. Don’t like the feel of the brake pedal when ABS is in use, feels like its running through grit. All said and done, I still prefer this van to my last one, Vauxhall Vivaro, nightmare on wheels!
Submitted: 18/04/2008 15:07:23 | ID: 1283
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The more I drive this car the more I like it. Very neat steering and smooth drive. Not bad looking either. I spend on average half my working day driving so wanted something that was comfortable and enjoyable to drive, whilst being affordable and the Bravo certainly fits the bill. No air con though in the 1.4 so only 4 stars but that really is nitpicking as this really is a good car.
Submitted: 17/04/2008 09:14:39 | ID: 1282
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For a surprisingly small 4 x 4, this cheeky little chappie has a lot of guts. I use it daily driving down a narrow, muddy Devon lane and it has got me out of a few, what could have been, nasty muddy predicaments. Recently, whilst moving some gravel up through three of our field in the back of the car, it out performed my husband’s Honda CRV, which couldn’t quite make it past the muddy entrance! On the downside, you have to think ahead of pulling out as the acceleration is not very good, as already mentioned: 0 - 60 in 20 seconds. Also, the fuel tank is quite small [30 litres]. However, that aside, it is a good robust performer, although it could do with a more powerful engine.
Submitted: 11/04/2008 09:53:49 | ID: 1263
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This is a very good looking car, quite nippy, yet gives excellent fuel consumption, 60+mpg easy on a long steady journey at 60mph or over. There are a few rattles, but nothing too bad. Only 1 fault which was quickly fixed by the dealer replacing a faulty battery. Family car, lots of space, good mpg and reliable (so far) would have another if they hadn’t stopped selling them in this country.
Submitted: 31/03/2008 10:28:42 | ID: 1227
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I have got a Fiat Multiwagan 03 plate which I have had for 8 months now, good car for kids but I have a problem that when I reach 60mph it shudders, been to fiat and to another garage and no one seems to know what it is, when I reach 80mph it stops. If anyone else has this prob please let me know, Fiat don’t have a clue!!!! shocks been replaced, bushes replaced, balanced tracking good. Not got clue pls someone help me wont let kids in car.
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One or both of the drive shafts are out of balance or damaged - Barry Hipkiss from Staffordshire
Submitted: 27/03/2008 08:18:32 | ID: 1208
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Nicely built huge Fiat. Plenty of room inside, super comfortable and super quiet. Has proved 100% faultless to date - its a shame fiat saw the need to drop this model in the UK
Submitted: 25/03/2008 10:17:12 | ID: 1197
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Scuttle leaks apart , the van has performed very well. The reported shudder in reverse gear has not effected my vehicle to date and I have not gone out of my way to make it happen. All other recalls carried out with no problems. Len.
Submitted: 25/03/2008 09:34:51 | ID: 1186
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Good Car, Good MPG sit at 60 on Motorway and get 66mpg + few problems to start though!! Back door doesn’t register on computer if open etc... Front Passenger door fails to open in cold, 1st time Rear Dampers Replaced, Lots of Rattles, Back seats vibrate a lot if nobody is sitting in them. Engine Rattle (noisy) The garage had it for over 2wks and nearly had the Fiat Specialists in!! Had a Suzuki and was good for Failures: "ENGINE FAILURE" Goes into annoying safe mode! Won’t overtake! "AIRBAG FAILURE" "PARKING SENSOR FAILURE" "SYSTEM NOT ACTIVE" ENGINE CUTS OUT POWER CUTS OUT WHEN DRIVING very dangerous! No steering Fixed now - had it’s moments!
Submitted: 25/03/2008 09:29:59 | ID: 1184
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I finally took delivery of my gorgeous Fiat 500 2 weeks ago and I just love it!!! It’s the most stylish little car out there and is such a good price; absolutely sips petrol and is cheap to insure. Really nippy and fun to drive and the interior is very funky. Enough space in the back for a couple of mates so it’s the perfect girlie car!
Submitted: 18/03/2008 13:07:41 | ID: 1171
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A decent enough car for the price but there are some downsides such as engine noise, which I do find a little irritating on long journeys. However, it is well built and comfortable and does offer a lot of interior space. The fuel economy isn’t as good as I expected and general running costs have taken the shine off owning a new car.
Submitted: 17/03/2008 12:24:46 | ID: 1163
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The car was good ... until I had a steering wheel failure while on a curve and the steering blocked and I crashed heavily into the wall ... this was on my 25000 km and the company said it happened after the crash .... and once the brakes pipe had leakage and I lost the brakes as well so I don’t think these things can happen with another brand at 25000km
Submitted: 14/03/2008 12:16:49 | ID: 1129
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Having 4 kids needed something with a bit of room as we travel a lot. Found ours on ebay and what a bargain. Smooth to drive,very comfy and cavernous when all the rear seats are removed (great for car boot sales). The only downside; which is a common fault with these vehicles is that the door locks sometimes have a mind of their own.
Submitted: 12/03/2008 10:18:53 | ID: 1126
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I had this car for less than 1 year. I loved it initially, but after a few months, I was very concerned about depreciation and build quality. The thing tumbled in value enough to make me sell after 9 months. I had to cut my losses before the thing was worthless! Its nice to drive if noisy and not too bad off road. However, while it was well screwed together, after a few months problems began to appear - very stiff 6 speed box ( 2nd gear impossible to use when cold), the engine ran very rough when hot in traffic jams, and the dash/seats were getting very rattly. I won’t buy another Fiat.
Submitted: 11/03/2008 09:58:21 | ID: 1121
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Bought the car new with employee discount, apart from 3 sets of rear tyres in 36K miles, 2 reprogrammes of the ECU, replacement of the EGR at 4K miles, new tailgate switch at 8K miles it is actually not a bad car, unfortunately with sales withdrawn and no advertising campaign when launched it is now worth nothing at trade in, unlike my last 2 multipla’s. The 150 multijet diesel is an excellent engine the only problem is the denial from Vauxhall Signum and saab93 owners that it is the same car and engine. Cruise control is essential to keep your licence and 45+mpg at cruising speeds! The only let down is the very poor fiat customer service and majority of the dealerships. I do not wish to have this car after it is 3 years old, the stress and worry would kill me which is a shame because it does everything I ask of it so well.
Submitted: 05/03/2008 10:04:31 | ID: 1103
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Blue with black leather and Aircon. Used as an everyday car its a bit small, boot will only take 2 sports bags and not child friendly. We have 2 cars as herself is a sales rep and takes a warehouse on the road in the Passat diesel. Having said that it€™s amazing the number of sales calls that ’require’ a smart lady rep in a dinky drop top. Don’t even mention the joys of topless motoring... No problems so far with reliability apart from having the roof slashed when parked which wasn’t the car’s fault. Fiat however made a full opera about replacing the roof and apparently hired Sydney Opera House to fit the replacement in.... Adequate performance from the 1747 4 pot motor. 130Hp and 0-100 kmh in 9 seconds so it won’t win any races. Handling is very good and will out turn much faster cars. Good buy. The early (pre 2003) version actually have a higher spec than the later ones which were heavily discounted by Fiat after the independent builder maker (Maggiora) went bust... later ones don’t Aircon or the higher trim spec of the originals.
Submitted: 03/03/2008 11:16:16 | ID: 1092
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We have had this van for 8 months done 36000 miles under duress egr valve faulty fiat will not change until "further tests have been done" van brakes down at least 5 times each journey due to valve. So far 7 recalls done more to be done. number plate lights corroded away and part of wiring loom too, drivers seat broke, door mirror glass fell out when door shut, new discs & pads fitted at 35000 ( last 2 vans did 100000 before new discs, same driver same job same everything ) pretty van but pretty poor.
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Hi. Eugene, I hope you dont mind me contacting you. You had 7 recalls, I’ve only had one for the computer, customer service didn’t give a monkeys. What were your recalls if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Fiat Ducato 2007 Turbo diesel, I bought it new and it’s only done 12500 miles. I did think that buying new would been better as the 3yr warranty would cover most of the problems - learnt my lesson with Fiat - Harry Butler from England
Submitted: 28/02/2008 10:06:24 | ID: 1082
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I bought the Panda last March for my wife we love it we have had four before this one but they get better and better its auto or manual gears you choose i have a top of he range vauxhall over £18000-00 but i still love to drive the little fiat panda easy to park nice drive good looks inside and out, I highly recommend this to anyone who wants a good value car. I will get the diesel next over 60 mpg and £35-00 road tax can€™t wait.
Submitted: 25/02/2008 17:26:12 | ID: 1073
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If using this site for advice before purchasing a motorhome of heavy use commercial van BE VERY CAREFUL, Take a look at http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10368&posts=160 and http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10500&posts=50 Other motorhome forums and Fiat forums seem to carry similar information.
Submitted: 18/02/2008 10:14:10 | ID: 1043
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1250 miles current mpg 46.75 on a mixed cycle. A better van loaded to 500 kg than the combo. So far so good.
Submitted: 14/02/2008 10:51:39 | ID: 1030
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Velocidad maxima problemas q podes q llegar a tener.
Submitted: 13/02/2008 17:05:21 | ID: 1029
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The Stilo is a rubbish car! It has cost me a fortune in repairs and my latest one cost £700 to get the electronics working.
Submitted: 12/02/2008 09:38:26 | ID: 1022
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My Seicento has been the perfect town / woman’s car. Her steering is excellent making parking the easiest of any car I’ve owned. I have had no problems at all in the 5+ years that I have owned her. The only thing I would like changed is the windscreen wiper speed, which goes from intermittent to frenetic, with nothing in between. I wanted to buy a new Seicento but Fiat has been very short sighted and stopped making them.
Submitted: 11/02/2008 13:57:08 | ID: 1014
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Well tha’ts the first revenue miles in the doblo .First impressions count a lot; and I think I’m going to like this machine. Whilst some of the fittings seem a bit flimsy the window winders in particular and the very tishy bonnet release overall the van seems soundly made. The driving position is splendid, far superior to the combo for example because you are higher. The little Vauxhall is cosy but I always feel a bit short of view, but the combo and the doblo share the 1.3 dohc power unit. This is a belting engine (except the cam drive which is chain) smooth lively and economical: a winner. Will comment on any issues later.
Submitted: 04/02/2008 11:06:00 | ID: 997
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Only just bought the car this week, hopefully I’ve made a good choice plenty of room for 3 kids. Some reviews are good but on other web pages the reviews are pretty bad hope I’ve got myself a good car and that it turns out to be a reliable wee runner.
Submitted: 04/02/2008 10:10:07 | ID: 994
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An amazing car! Goes off road with all the big boys, and can get out and in narrow places and out of troubles easily. Surprisingly smooth and quiet on and off road, easy to drive, no high/low gears or any need to stop for differential locking... just keep on moving and moving easily! Each time i think that I’m about to cross its limit, i discover I’m wrong again. don’t get fooled by the catalogue specifications on it’s 20sec from 0-60/// i used to live with sports cars and now I’m in love. Even on highways it surprisingly good again, I do 75-80 mph naturally. Do your soul a present, buy one and start to enjoy life!
Submitted: 01/02/2008 15:55:30 | ID: 991
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I purchased a Fiat Ducato 2.2 multijet 100bhp in March 2007, this vehicle was 6 months old and had been used as their demonstrator the mileage was 1130. I am on a 56 plate (new shape). Since i purchased this van i have had 3 new glove boxes because the catches kept on breaking and it would fall down whilst driving. I have had the air scoop on the bonnet replaced because when it rained the rain water would drip onto the engine because it was the one for the LHD model; i have had a new indicator stalk because of a fault with the indicators blowing fuses. I have had the electric door mirrors replaced. And to finalize in mid November 2007 on a Saturday morning on my way too London the engine management warning light came on. i tried to get it looked at whilst i was in London but i was told i would have to leave it with them for a week as they were too busy to look at it so i contacted fiat Exeter where i purchased the vehicle from. And limped home on reserve power and took the van in the next day, i was told the needed the van for 3 days as there was also 15 recalls on this model. The van is still at the dealership and i am driving around with a ford transit thrifty hire van. As fiat cannot get the parts needed to repair my van. It is now getting on to nearly 3 months. That is 3 months i have lost off the guarantee and the tax insurance i have been paying and 3 months of finance... has any one else had problems like these? The mileage is now at 18000.
Submitted: 31/01/2008 14:14:22 | ID: 987
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Brilliant car. Well designed and amazing to drive. The power that is put out of such a small (but turbocharged) engine is flawless. Spec says you can reach 60mph in 8.9 however I think this time could be slashed in reality. The blue&me is very simple to use and is quite a nice addition to have your phones phonebook listed where your mileage is. Voice commands are very simple. You just click the "windows" button on the steering wheel and say "Help" and it tells you the available commands for that option level. Got mine for £10000 brand new and I love it! 5*****
Submitted: 29/01/2008 09:50:15 | ID: 981
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We purchased 2 1.4 grand’s from Piccadilly in Knaresborough. This one has had its fair share of problems but the tailgate holding water fault has happened to both vehicles and gives me most concern. Our Dealer is one of the better ones though and all faults have been rectified to date. The thing about these cars is that you get a lot of car for a little money. Yes, you do seem to get niggling faults at first, I should know, we’ve had over 10 fiats but once sorted you get a great car!!!!!!
Submitted: 25/01/2008 16:17:57 | ID: 958
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Recently purchased my Punto, find it a great car to drive and very good on the fuel with it being diesel, it has the poke when u need it and is quick off the mark and also loves 6th gear on any long run, has all the extras for a good price and has many more than what classy cars have e.g. heated seats, mp3 player plug in, sexy driver etc.......
Submitted: 21/01/2008 16:22:09 | ID: 942
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At first I was very satisfied with my choice and purchase of this great looking car, however if only the reliability matched this first impression. The car was recalled to fix a steering support (fair enough, these things happen). Then the dashboard came away from its fixings. That had to be replaced after the fix failed on the same day of collection. Now there is an electrical fault that tells you that the fluid temp is too high, this before you even pull away after standing overnight, again told it’s an easy fix just a software upgrade This too failed to remedy on the day of collection same old story, and now waiting for it to go in for further "investigation" COME ON FIAT WHAT’S GOING ON!! Hope this time they can actually solve something.
Submitted: 21/01/2008 16:17:08 | ID: 940
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The Grande Punto is excellent value for money, spacious inside and gives you a nice sense of safety when at the wheel. The reason I can’t award the Grande Punto 5 starts is because the ride is a bit too hard with slightly too much road noise. It drives well as a whole though and I would definately recommend this to anybody looking for a roomy supermini.
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Hi. Just got my 2007 Punto, the steering makes a knocking sound when turning the steering wheel, this only happens when parking or taking off, it doesn’t do it at high speed!! Theres only 18,000 miles on it, is this normal or is there something wrong with the steering? Marguerite Tierney from Ireland
Submitted: 10/01/2008 10:55:29 | ID: 911
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Love it. Small car, bags of space, room for the three kids and dog. Husband says he looks like a boy racer car but loves driving it also.
Looks good , Drives well, Quick of the mark and feels safe. Allrounder family car thats cheap to run.
Submitted: 04/01/2008 09:56:15 | ID: 895
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Bought mine from main agent, paying 50% of list at 17 months old (5000miles). Feels very well built with superb attention under wheel arches etc. 60mpg if driven very gently on the motorway (1.9 JTD 120). Love it. Plenty of space and excellent stereo. Very comfortable but the GM chasis/suspension does lack Italian responsiveness.
Submitted: 02/01/2008 15:19:47 | ID: 878
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December 2007. Now completed 52,000 miles. Problems at first with front suspension mountings. Modified Fiat mountings fitted after 12 months battle with Fiat. Rear axle replaced under warranty without battle. Front drop links are now worn and noisy. Comfort reasonable but road noise lets down an otherwise good value estate car.
Submitted: 02/01/2008 12:15:15 | ID: 876
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Love my punto - only just got it though so might feel different after a few months - one thing i have noticed is that it seems to be chugging a lot.
Submitted: 19/12/2007 14:54:14 | ID: 867
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Bought Croma 2.2 Petrol nothing but problems from door handle breaking outer and inner. rear tyres wearing due to tracking out FIAT re call code 5138. engine consuming burning oil Need new engine !!!! Sun roof fell apart. rear boot lock faulty. wiper motor jams Gear leaver jams its a pain I know and its ongoing with Fiat to sort out the problems
Submitted: 12/12/2007 17:28:57 | ID: 852
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In Feb 07 we bought a new motorhome on the new fiat platform Apart from a faulty cab aircon switch this has proved to a fabulous machine. It drives and corners so well you tend to forget you are driving a 3.5t vehicle It pulls from low revs in almost any gear and it will easily exceed the motorway speed limits At 70mph speeds will return 25mpg at a more leisurely 60mph 30mpg. If there is a complaint it would be reverse gear which tends to be geared to high
Submitted: 06/12/2007 09:18:02 | ID: 820
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I love this car because it’s so unusual and very, very stylish. Suits nipping around town perfectly and is a breeze to park. Definately fun to drive, it the type of car that makes you smile. Good value to buy and definately cheap to run. Cute and cheeful without being too cheap.
Submitted: 27/11/2007 10:27:22 | ID: 797
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I’ve had this van for 8 months and it is the best little panel van out there, in my opinion. Firstly, the cabin is designed like a car so it’s very easy to drive and extremely comfortable. It also has an amazing load space for such a small van and Fiat have really thought out their design well. I actually enjoy driving this van, rather than just having to, to do my job. Very stylish too. 5 out of 5!
Submitted: 26/11/2007 08:45:44 | ID: 753
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One of the best lwb vans on the market. Good to drive and very comfortable. A real good all rounder.
Submitted: 23/11/2007 12:44:51 | ID: 751
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This is of course modelled on the Punto car and is excellent to drive. Nice and punchy acceleration and a very smooth and quiet drive. Excellent little van that is extremely fuel efficient and therefore very cheap to run.
Submitted: 22/11/2007 13:32:37 | ID: 722
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I have owned my punto active 1.2 8 valve for 3 years covering 57000 miles.I have only had one problem the radiator fan needed replacing. I have a full service done every 10000 miles not the reccomended 12000 as I drive it very hard.
Submitted: 19/11/2007 17:11:50 | ID: 635
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A really good looking car both inside and out although I think the carpet is a little cheap looking which is a shame. Excellent fuel consumption at around the 52mpg mark and easily affordable to insure. Very nippy when you need it to be and comfortable to drive over long distances. Very, very quiet engine for a diesel. Excellent value for money.
Submitted: 19/11/2007 11:32:43 | ID: 625
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We bought a Fiat Ducato/motorhome in May 2007. The engine has given us nothing but problems.The motorhome side of the vehicle is excellent with no problems. We had an oil leak so took it into the Fiat garage and they fixed it, we took it on our first intended two week holiday and had to return after two days with an oil leak, it went into the garage and it was fixed. We resumed our holiday and returned after three days another serious oil leak.The first two oil leaks were from the sump the next oil leak was from a seal behind the air filter?. We went off on holiday for a week and returned with an yellow light on the dashboard indicating ignition/injection problem. The garage said it was a clutch switch problem and tried to repair it but failed after two days, then the vehicle was recalled for FOUR recalls and the parts were fitted. We have not yet ventured out as the last part is being fitted at our house today, as not all the parts had been sent to the garage. Little faith in this engine.
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UPDATE: Nov 2010 - engine management system light on, so it is in the garage for repair instead of a computer reset. Part being fitted to clutch to stop judder. Hope to have issues resolved today. Arnold Clark ,Sighthill, Edinburgh looking after issues and so far are very helpful - Lewis Beattie from Lothians
Submitted: 16/11/2007 12:42:20 | ID: 604
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This is a practical family orientated car, bags of space and surprisingly fun to drive. Never any problems when the Mrs goes shopping, there is space for the bags and the kids.
Submitted: 14/11/2007 09:23:39 | ID: 571
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So far so good but early days yet with just 400 miles on the clock and still listening out for problems - not that there should be but just going with what others say about the marque! A bit like the tardis as it has taken everything in so far. Probably a bit slow for those in a rush but I now have no problem in travelling at a speed that allows time to look at others rushing to earn a crust! Very comfortable seating wise, drives in a straight line and the consumption at a little over 40mpg for short journies will suit and hopefully get better with time. Well pleased so far and fingers crossed for the next 20 years....
Submitted: 13/11/2007 16:35:18 | ID: 569
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Head gasket has gone twice.
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They do that if you put the wrong coolant in them. Absolutely essential that you put the correct FIAT coolant in the FIRE engines - Noel from Ceredigion
Submitted: 05/11/2007 09:41:34 | ID: 508
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Reliable, smooth ride yet also quick off the mark. Spacious and nicely equiped with alloys, MP3 player and leather steering wheel. Stylish is the word.
Submitted: 31/10/2007 17:15:31 | ID: 475
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Comfortable and quiet on long motorway journeys. I bought this car so the whole family would have plenty of room and I’m not dissapointed. Safe and solidly built. A good buy.
Submitted: 31/10/2007 17:14:34 | ID: 474
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I love me Panda! Cheap to run and insure. Short on space especially in the boot but good fuel economy. The ride is not that smooth but it is reliable and safe and perfect for city life!
Submitted: 31/10/2007 16:20:02 | ID: 466
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I have had my Stilo for a couple of years now, and have found this to be a decent enough car, the car, in my opinion seems to be FIAT’s answer to the VW Golf which I have also owned and doesn’t compare with the drive etc. The Stilo has plus points however, such as high MPG and obviously the price, quite spacious and decent enough boot. My major concern would be the reliability unfortunately.
Submitted: 31/10/2007 14:58:30 | ID: 461
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Bought the car in July 07 from evans Halshaw (Fiat) Leeds. (06 model) very happy with the car (van!) not so happy with the garage! I have had a problem with the clutch since day one! I have been told by a garage (not fiat) that this engine had a recall problem with the clutch (judering when starting off!) but it was repaired under warranty by Fiat, has anyone any knowledge about this? I would be very grateful for any feed back as the Fiat garage are quoting me £700 for a new clutch!!! (other garage £200!!!) I am starting legal action against the garage as the fault was present from the day I bought the car. If you can offer any help / information call Jim Hassett on 07900322321, or e-mail at alan.hassett@ntlworld.com thanks. 5 seater car..
Submitted: 29/10/2007 16:12:15 | ID: 434
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Submitted: 29/10/2007 10:11:44 | ID: 433
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Brilliant little car. Cheap to buy, cheap to run and can take some battering. Runs brilliantly in snow, rain or shine and is very enjoyable to drive. A good bargain, well worth the money, I’d highly recommend this car to anyone.
Submitted: 27/10/2007 14:45:12 | ID: 400
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I have owned my Punto for 4 years and has been reliable throughout. I have had some problems in the last 6 months which is just normal wear and tear stuff that is expected with any vehicle at 4 years old and not had a lot of service history (oops). All in all it has been great and would consider getting the new punto as fiat have improved on looks and functionality recently.
Submitted: 25/10/2007 12:53:53 | ID: 344
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Have had this car from new and almost 3 years on I am still very pleased with it. It’s a very flexible MPV and although you know you’re driving a larger vehicle it handles very nicely indeed. I would definately recommend this, my only regret is that I didn’t plump for the electric side doors, can be a bit of a pain when you’ve got your hands full with the kids.
Submitted: 20/10/2007 09:23:09 | ID: 317
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Its bloody terrible, I expected to get a half decent run about from my employer, not this bucket. I can’t wait to leave here and get a better motor.
Submitted: 19/10/2007 08:49:16 | ID: 308
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I wanted a 4x4 but not a great big hulking thing so the Sedici is absolutely perfect for me and is genuinely a good off roader. The interior is simple but comfortable and my son and dog love travelling in it. The price was excellent too. The one compromise I’ve had to make for all of this is the engine noise, bit louder than I’d like to be honest but it’s not deafening and you do get used to it.
Submitted: 15/10/2007 18:01:04 | ID: 297
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We have a problem with the door handle too which is about to be fixed. has anyone a problem with the ignition lock because we have this now too As mentioned before this has also taken the excitement out of having a new as we have also had two recalls and our dealer is rubbish too extremely unhelpful.
Submitted: 15/10/2007 09:49:36 | ID: 292
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UNBELIEVABLE VALUE - BOUGHT MINE 7 MONTHS OLD 4000MLS F0R 7999 - EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE / ECONOMY / RIDE / ROOM - AVERAGE HANDLING / NOISE / BUILD QUALITY - POOR HANDBRAKE AND ROAD NOISE
Submitted: 10/10/2007 09:00:42 | ID: 281
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Dennis Limburn from Sussex awarded the Fiat Panda 5 stars.
Submitted: 08/10/2007 13:59:07 | ID: 279
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We have a Fiat Punto Grande Active on our vehicle fleet! Didn’t know what to expect however I am happy to say that it has been a great work horse! Plenty of boot space, great engine, goes well for a 1.2 injection. Active Specification Includes: 2 Rear Head restraints, 3 Yr/60000 Warranty, ABS With EBD, Adjustable S/Wheel, Drivers Airbag, Drop Cloth Upholstery, Drs St Adjustable M + Side Airbags, Dual drive Power Steering, Electric Front Windows, Electric Heated Mirrors, Immobiliser, Passenger Airbag, Remote Central Locking, Single CD and Radio and Solid Paint. For further details on specification go to the Manufacturers Website. By far one of the best looking small hatch’s in its category. Cheap running costs and the Insurance is only a group 2, Ideal for younger drivers. You get a great car for the money, working for Acorn I can confirm Contract Hire prices range from circa 110 pounds per month and most Dealers will offer a good purchase price with or with out a part exchange!
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This is a blatant advert, moderators should remove it! Ann Oyed from England
Submitted: 03/10/2007 10:40:43 | ID: 270
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Excellent family car, bags of space and quite nippy too. Very good on fuel and comfortable to drive on long journeys.
Submitted: 02/10/2007 15:28:11 | ID: 269
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I’ve had this car for 18 months and overall I’m pleased with it’s performance and the fuel effeciency is excellent over long distances. The big let down on this car is the cheap looking plastic trim and you can get some roll on cornering but I think on the whole it does what it’s supposed to and it does it well.
Submitted: 29/09/2007 11:06:01 | ID: 243
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I love my Barchetta, people can’t believe it’s a fiat! So much fun to drive and a real head turner. Brilliant little car.
Submitted: 26/09/2007 10:10:55 | ID: 228
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06 plate dobbin now 19 months old. I have to say that this is a fantastic car. Being on the large side, I have always found problems getting into and driving cars - the smaller cars seem to have more room for the driver! but they are no good for the family. Plenty of room for five adults to sit comfortably (all above average height/weight) (one guy has a range rover said he had more room in the doblo!) Been away a few times. Two big teenage lads in the back plus a labrador, a boot jam packed with cases, tents, food. Three bikes on the back & the 1.9jtd could still shift on the motorway. Fuel economy is hit and miss. Supermarket fuel delivers 400 miles to the tank around town and similar on a run - usually foot down on the motorway though. Branded fuel has given me 40 - 50 miles more around town. I generally let the tank run down until the light comes on & that usually takes 10 gallons to fill. (book says the tank is larger so I reckon the light comes on too soon - not necessarily a bad thing) It is possible to get more out of a tankful but the 1.9 turbo diesel engine has so much poke it's difficult holding back when the boy racers sit beside you at the lights. Official figures give a 0 - 60 in terms of days but I've left many a car standing - which also explains the poor fuel economy. This is the first car I have been able to drive without having the seat reclined - there is masses of headroom AND I can step into the driver's seat (rather than trying to shoehorn myself in). The only downside for me is the plastic trim around/under the gearstick digs into my leg - but that is really down to my size & not bad design (I'd have had the gear lever coming out of the dash!). In my opinion, this car beats all the other MPVs hands down - similar in length and width to the sharan, zafira etc but with loads more interior room due to the lack of padded trim (ok, it's cheapo trim), but there is also loads more height. In my opinion, this car beats all the other MPVs hands down - similar in length and width to the sharan, zafira etc but with loads more interior room due to the lack of padded trim (ok, it's cheapo trim), but there is also loads more height. These have been around 6 or 7 years now & I know one owner who has gone beyond the 1/4 million miles mark in a 3 year old & still going strong. These babys are thashed as taxis as well as commercials and they just keep on going. Only downside so far is the rear light clusters can be awkward to remove - if you aren't careful, you lose one of the nuts into the bodywork, and some work under the engine can be awkward according to other owners but otherwise, you can't go wrong.
Submitted: 24/09/2007 09:59:30 | ID: 219
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Sweet ride - classy vehicle and handles like a 18 year old virgin - handle gently at first, but there is a beast waiting to be unleashed.
Submitted: 21/09/2007 11:20:08 | ID: 214
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This is the best investment in a car I’ve ever made. It has not once let me down and and has cost me next to nothing to maintain over the past 6 years. Good, reliable car.
Submitted: 21/09/2007 10:50:31 | ID: 213
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My 3 door is a small, fast car. It’s very reasonably priced with great economy. This is a hot hatchback.
Submitted: 05/09/2007 16:43:11 | ID: 175
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Only had this car for four months and already it’s had a problem with the door handles, though this was sorted out very quickly. Lovely to drive, just hope I don’t have any more problems as this has taken the excitement out of my very first new car a bit.
Submitted: 05/09/2007 11:22:10 | ID: 160
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Great car, reliable, versatile. I learnt to drive in it. No troubles with it. Rides high so although it is a small car you don't feel you are about to get crushed when in traffic!
Submitted: 28/08/2007 11:39:54 | ID: 117
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Having heard of previous build quality issues I approached the prospect of Fiat Punto ownership with a little trepedation I must admit! I have however been pleasantly surprised, a spirited engine, excellent interior space and touch wood nothing going wrong so far, have made buying the Punto a decision I haven't yet come to regret.
Submitted: 24/07/2007 14:11:09 | ID: 4
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